She is killing people who were trying to kill her and her dragons just second before.
Bending the knee would still make them prisoners - they refusing means that they are still opposing her...of course they are gonna get killed. We have been in a non-stop war for most of this show and people wanna paint Dany as some kind of crazy savage after events like the Red Wedding. Ramsey and co. ?
Sams relationship with his brother means its okay for him to be sad, pissed and all - but blaming Dany and trying to to mess up the Jon x Dany alliance that will likely save the day for it seems weird. His brother/father dont survive the encounter against 99% of rulers after that battle if they dont bend the knee. They just betrayed their liege lords...do people really think anyone would trust them if they didnt bend the knee ? Doesnt make any sense.
They chose death.
From what I remember Dance of the Dragons pretty much goes over this kind of issue. Where Rhaenyra was supposed to be crowned the successor but Aegon contested it. In the case, it's pretty much as you say, it's basically down to who conquers the other. The whole reason Westeros is in a huge mess at the moment partly due to legitimacy and fighting over it. The War didn't just start with the Mad King but Rhaegar as well so it's not like being a son of one is better than the other given Rhaegar literally is Mad King's son. Even the inspiration of the series War of Roses (recently watched white princess recently which was fantastic) kind of has a similar situation where Henry has the least legitimacy to the throne, his marriage to Elizabeth is what strengths his claims against Edward who would be kind of like a situation of Aegon in GOT.The problem though is you can't on the one hand act like Dany's family name is a hinderance for her in Westeros, and then turn around and go "but it's going to work out for Jon." When a kingdom is in chaos might makes right. Rightful heir means nothing if you can't take the seat of power. Why shouldn't the Dornish claim KL? Or any of the other major houses left? Hell what's stopping a minor house under the Lannister's from rising up and filling the vacuum left from their demise? Unless the Northeners can go south and conquer the entirety of the continent, what ever claims they make for Jon means nothing. The North barely has a 1000 men to put together to form an actual army.
I mean, in ASOIAF, it's a grey area with so many different justification which were deemed right. How is Janos begging for his life and executed because he disrespected Jon snow's leadership anymore justification than executing Tarly who murdered your allies and given option would rather die. Ramsay was also in a way a prisoner of war as well. Tarly isn't on his level but it takes one morally corrupt character to side with Cersei after blowing up half of King's Landing and all the other actions he's done. It's just weird after seeing all the actions of what the Lannisters and Allies are done, people are nitpicking which execution was more deserved than the other when they're the same enemies just because of a different character. I mean, Arya just murdered more people within the same time frame.Sam's relationship with his brother was fine. Also, Dany told them to bend the knee or die. She's kinda murdering prisoners of war.
Is anyone else slighty dissapointed with NK's 'message'? When leaks came out the night king will leave a message for the living I was thinking more along lines of an literal message explaining his motivation (even if it just a name scribbeled on a wall) not this display of 'art' as it turned out to be.
what if Jon gets flamed by the ice dragon but at the last minute wargs into Rhaegal and lives on by Dany's side as her dragon son/nephew/lover
Is anyone else slighty dissapointed with NK's 'message'? When leaks came out the night king will leave a message for the living I was thinking more along lines of an literal message explaining his motivation (even if it just a name scribbeled on a wall) not this display of 'art' as it turned out to be.
They blew the elephant budget on dragons. What can you do?
...as if Dany or Cercei would care about that at this point.They're literally valuable hostages that Dany can exchange with Cersei for Ellaria Sand and her daughter.
You don't murder your prisoners especially high value ones.
Put them in prison for life if you have to.
This x 100Jon: listen I need you to man this deserted castle ok?!
Slynt: Yeah about that, fuck you!
Jon: Olly, fetch me my sword!
*You can't talk back to the boss like that you idiot! Jon can't be disrespected like that. 100% justified*
Dany: ok so it says here that you guys betrayed the house you were sworn to, helped sack their capital, and then you not only looted it, you also helped steal all the food from the civilians you were meant to protect. I can just outright execute y'all, but I'll give you one opportunity to make amends.
Tarlys: fuck you!
Dany: Drogon do your thing!
*OMG how could she that bitch?! Fucking mad queen. I knew she was just like her dad. I knew it the moment she crucified those fine noblemen in Mereen. She's crazy!*
they haven't really shown any Stark being able to warg besides Bran in the show. I don't think thats going to start now.
Ghost isn't big enough for her to ride though (unless he's grown exponentially in the years since we last saw him. We Princess Mononoke now?! :O)
Bro, pm me. I feed on this stuff.It doesn't work like that. In the books actually, Jon's hand was burned by fire, and he constantly flexes it out of habit. It's very important, because I think it will point to a huge twist about Dany, but I am hesitant to elaborate on it even if it's pure speculation. There's a reason GRRM made Jon not impervious to fire and has said Targs aren't.
His motivation as has been described a bunch is that he wants to kill everyone.
I'm good. If he lives on with Ghost however...
Sounds like it's on you for reading leaks
You are applying 20th century concepts ("prisoners of war") to Middle Ages-inspired Westeros. They fought and ended up on the losing side. Do you remember what happened to the losing side for 7 seasons? The fact that Daenerys even offered them to bend the knee in exchange for their life was overly generous because they and the Lannisters would never do that for her.Sam's relationship with his brother was fine. Also, Dany told them to bend the knee or die. She's kinda murdering prisoners of war.
It doesn't work like that. In the books actually, Jon's hand was burned by fire, and he constantly flexes it out of habit. It's very important, because I think it will point to a huge twist about Dany, but I am hesitant to elaborate on it even if it's pure speculation. There's a reason GRRM made Jon not impervious to fire and has said Targs aren't.
Dany is playing the meta. The real purpose of that flying sequence with Jon was to take away the elephants out of the game."I wanted elephants"
"Sorry m'lady, CGI budget came too short"
That goat in the end of the episode was definitely CGI right ?
You are applying 20th century concepts ("prisoners of war") to Middle Ages-inspired Westeros. They fought and ended up on the losing side. Do you remember what happened to the losing side for 7 seasons? The fact that Daenerys even offered them to bend the knee in exchange for their life was overly generous because they and the Lannisters would never do that for her.
They had to stop to do some arts & crafts.What's holding up the white walkers? It used to be the wall. Now we are many days in after the wall broke and the dead should be marching south without rest.
Had to make sure there were no elephants in the vicinityWhat's holding up the white walkers? It used to be the wall. Now we are many days in after the wall broke and the dead should be marching south without rest.
What's holding up the white walkers? It used to be the wall. Now we are many days in after the wall broke and the dead should be marching south without rest.
What's holding up the white walkers? It used to be the wall. Now we are many days in after the wall broke and the dead should be marching south without rest.
Yeah I know. The times and distances in the show just confuse me.
Yeah I know. The times and distances in the show just confuse me.
Arya is weird too. Probably mad how badly she gets out-weirded by Bran though.
Screen Junkie just released a recap, it's pretty solid. It's one hour long but worth the watch and fast paced.Any good videos to remind me of what's gone on prior to this season? My memory is shit.
They willbe here soonThe lack of dire wolves makes me wish they just kept them as dogs instead of making them giant CGI wolves. I get it, they're dire wolves and are supposed to be massive, but I miss them
Yeah she comes off very badly, a proxy of her father in his absence to be honest. I could see Bronn using the crossbow on Dany at this point when she tries to go all Aerys II next week trying to kill Jaime and Tyrion.Sam's relationship with his brother was fine. Also, Dany told them to bend the knee or die. She's kinda murdering prisoners of war.
Corny lines i found
- She is the smartest person i have met
- I am going to put a prince in your belly
- Then keep your queen warm
- Did you bend the knee because you love her?
Whaaa? The dragons were born from Drogo's funeral pyre