Walder Frey is the man who ruined her life, at least after Joffrey. Of course she'd go after him. Her list is pretty much burnt out these days aside from Cersei.
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Game of Thrones S8, Apr 14-May 19 @9PM EDT |OT| Aunt-Man and the Frost
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Walder Frey is the man who ruined her life, at least after Joffrey. Of course she'd go after him. Her list is pretty much burnt out these days aside from Cersei.
There's a lot of people in that room that could save him. You think Jon would be ok with killing him once he finds out why he killed the Mad King?
EDIT: I have a feeling this is what's going to set him against Dany. He'd probably see killing the Mad King as the only right move in that situation, he's the type who would want someone next to him willing to stop him if he ever tried something like that. Dany, on the other hand, is afraid of such things.
I think thinking dragons have a soft spot for Targaryens is foolish. If they do, it's only because they want to burn stuff to death. Jon is a poor match. I felt Drogon was death-staring Jon. Drogon is all about Fire & Blood, and I think if Dany is pulled away from that he won't be happy. But it's difficult to read a CG dragon's expression.
Yeah, but I like to think Frey was just a trial, and she's going to expand outside the list.
That's the way I seen it. He doesn't care what happens honestly
he will have defenders.
-Tyrion
-Brianne
- John ( probably )
The only people in Winterfell who would vouch for Jamie are Tyrion and Brienne.
-and Bran, if he chooses to expose Cersei's plot to have him killed. That would make him the "enemy of my enemy is my frenemy" type of guy.
-and Bran, if he chooses to expose Cersei's plot to have him killed. That would make him the "enemy of my enemy is my frenemy" type of guy.
To be fair, he could be in on Cersei's plan to betray them. Remember that look he gave Jon and Dany at the end of season 7 after his meeting with Cersei.
I'm pretty sure Bran is going to vouch for him. Seems like the entire point of the setup with him waiting for an old friend.
I don't think it'll ever quite come to that. Jon & Dany are definitely going to have it out over what she did to Randyl and Dickon Tarly, but I think the battle with the White Walkers will happen before they have a chance to say anything that can't be taken back. Something will definitely change permanently about their relationship, but I don't think it will result in an all-out war between them.
Like who? Pretty much every human antagonist in the show is gone aside from Cersei and Qyburn.
Yea, but Sansa planted that seed of doubt in Tyrion's head when she told him he wasn't the cleverest man she ever knew anymore - right after he brought up her being pregnant and having something to fight for.
Tyrion can't stay much longer in Winterfell. No one is listening to him, and he is about to be extremely wrong about having said publicly that Cersei should be trusted and that the Lannisters coming are coming to help. I wouldn't be surprised if when Bronn shows up, he asks him to get him out of there. But little does he know he can't go back home...
Like Sansa said, Tyrion used to be the most intelligent. Not sure what happened between the last season and now, but I'm baffled as to how he would just trust Cersei's word.
Absolutely agree. Bran isn't really Bran anymore, and he's able to see how Jaime has suffered and changed over the course of the series.
Drogon will probably eat Bronn if he shows up in Winterfell.
He knows who shot him with that spear/harpoon.
He knows who shot him with that spear/harpoon.
Just remembering that Bronn scene is making me embarrassed
It was like a parody of Game of Thrones T&A
It was like a parody of Game of Thrones T&A
I sincerely doubt we'll see anything else to do with Essos at this point.
Tyrion seems to be so desperate to salvage SOMETHING of his family that he's willing to let himself go completely genre-blind with hope.
I know, right? I was honestly confused for a bit after that scene. The last time we saw Tormund, Beric, and those members of the Nightswatch was at Eastwatch while it was falling to the ice dragon. I was all "oh cool! These guys survived and are trying to get out of The Wall." Then we see little Umber strung up, and i'm all "How....in the fuck did this kid end up at The Wall? Did the Night King kill him then fly his dead ass back to Eastwatch?"
I was really hoping there would be a scene with Jaime on his way to Winterfell, and Bronn canters up next to him nonchalantly. He says something like "Well, you're sisters not about to give me any castles" or something of the like
.........there are genuinely so many variables for things to go wrong.
I agree, however... I think that they might go their separate ways after Winterfell and I believe if that happens, one of the dragons will refuse to abandon Jon.
A pretty far cry from book Tyrion!
"I will lead [Danaerys'] armies or rub her feet, as she desires. And the only reward I ask is I might be allowed to r*** and kill my sister."
I don't think it will be Bran doing most of the help. At least not initially, it will be Brienne. In the books Jaime has a dream of him and Brienne being in what seems to be the Winterfell crypt, and Targaryen and Stark dead (Robb, Ned, Rhaegar and co) are calling him out, threatening him, and Brienne and him are both naked and have to sort of try to fight their way out, but mostly by speaking. Brienne helps him in the dream, but eventually things fade. It seemed to have been foreshadowing this moment.
At the same time, Aerys killed Brandon Stark (the other one, Ned's brother) and his father. Daenerys killed her brother (or at least didn't mind it), who was the heir to the throne. I think they won't be able to argue much about kingslaying or kinslaying.
Wouldn't surprise me that Bran says nothing at all, just watches.
edit: Oh, I hope Dany remembers who tried to spear her lol.
I honestly don't have an answer for you. I basically brain dump after every season and fumble my way through the first couple of episodes while my brain catches up. But it's not as if she and her family haven't been fucked over by half the realm. Plus if she actually is a manifestation of death, then she could be involved with every major death this season.
Alternatively, it's deliberate misdirection on D&D's part just like the AGONIZING Arya/Sansa Drama(TM) last season was.
There were House Umber banners outside when the crew showed up, and the little boy was the head of House Umber who said he was going home to gather troops earlier in the episode
Also, Last Hearth was the only non-WF/KL location shown in the opening credits aside from the Wall. Kinda surprised they straight-up spoiled it'd get overrun during the opening credits.
what is gendry's surname? every kingdom has a surname for bastards, right? and i think he was a bastard born in the stormlands or the crownlands or something
Gotcha. I didn't catch either of those. I don't think any non-book reader friends did either.
I dunno... The show runners seem to be going out of their way to make the most popular characters, such as Tyrion much more heroic and likable than they are in the books. I wouldn't put it past them to actually make Tyrion this naive about Cercei.
I think we're gonna need to pay close attention to the credits this season.
I just don't see how Tyrion being a naive idiot makes him heroic or likeable. Cersei is one of the worst people alive.
Gendry was born in Kings Landing, I believe, so it would be Waters.
But actually, he's not acknowledged by Robert, so he does not get a surname. Only bastards that are acknowledged by their highborn fathers get a bastard surname like Snow, or Stone or Waters.
Did he have any creative input in the screenplay of this season? Jon just seems way too chosen oney and it doesn't fit the catharsis he likes to follow with his characters and their arcs.
Nah, that'd make no sense. The easiest conclusion is the one we've witnessed since S5, Tyrion is a complete dumbass now. Remember how he fucked up every instance of ruling and advice in Essos until Dany showed up and said just burn them all?
D&D don't understand or don't care for the political writing. Think how dumb it is for Davos to suggest to Tyrion for Jon and Dany to marry. A thing that should have been suggested the second they met. Hell, the stated reason she gives for leaving Daario is that she recognizes she needs to be able to marry to form alliances in Westeros. But, it seems everyone forgot that.
The political writing is brain dead at this point. Shit, we got Arya telling people that Sansa is the smartest character, Sansa. The fool who almost tried to kill Arya last season due to obvious manipulation from Baelish. A once smart character who was also reduced to a dunce.
I am pretty sure I know who Azor Ahai WAS way back, but it's pretty much all based on book lore (with a bit supplemented by dragonglass being used to "cure" Benjen in the show).
But this time I don't know. My guess has been for a while that it is Davos who will stab Melisandre in the heart with a sword, at her request, to create Lightbringer, but his relation with her has basically evaporated. We'll see if it leads to anything. When she returns things should get pretty clear.
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Good point. I guess maybe they want people to pity him?
To be honest, I haven't enjoyed Tyrion's character that much for the past few seasons. I know his travels through Essos needed to be shortened quite a bit, but ever since he's met Dany, he's been either comic relief or saying and doing stupid things. Very disappointing.
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