Oh I forgot another in universe reason will be dorne hating dany for blaming her for quentyn
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Game of Thrones S8, Apr 14-May 19 @9PM EDT |OT| Aunt-Man and the Frost
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I think the ease of Yara's rescue make sense. Euron was preoccupied with Cersie and no one would expect Theon to step up and try a rescue attempt. Plus, she isn't really a major target outside the Ironborn world.
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Yeah the whole sansa is now a genius super brain is a bit hard to swallow given all the Arya/LF nonsense from last season.
Oh boy, GoT was gone for too long and I'm too damn tired after work. lol
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No worries gotta little book memory rush, I was like. Asha - now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time obiwan.gif
So looks like there will be a Jamie trial next episode, but there's no way that he DOESN'T get bailed out by Brienne, right? His moments of honor were significant in setting in motion the events that led to the Stark family being reunited. Also Tyrion is there and can vouch for him too.
She's not though. She learned a lot but still lets her emotions get the better of her sometimes.
She's not though. She learned a lot but still lets her emotions get the better of her sometimes.
It probable that Bran didn't have a complete assessment of LF for a good while. He explained in that season that he needed to "get better at seeing" and that things were still fragmented.
No. Some of there are good theories with lots evidence but some of these are just things you want to happen rather than anything with substantial backing like Sansa marrying "Aegon" or Brienne dying in the Riverlands or Jaime becoming LC.
(Also Martin isn't even subtle about Arianne and "Aegon" hooking up. People just want Littlefinger to team up with Varys)
Except Jaime is going to tell them that Cersei betrayed them.
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I think little finger and varys in-fighting under him will be what takes him down
Jamie will do it to complete the Kingslayer, Kinslayer, Queenslayer title set.
I don't like wolves that start civil wars and burn people with dragonfire thank you.
I laughed at this too hard in the middle of the night and my neighbors banged on the wall.
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She got exiled after Jon finds out she burned Stannis' daughter
She said she was leaving for Volantis, presumably because she said she had made terrible mistakes, so she's pulling a Gandalf to read up on that ring. (That's figurative: she will come back with some truth or weapon or some such)
She said she would return.
Also note she told Varys their days of whispering in kings' ears had come to and end, which he rebuked. But in ep1 he specifically says he is not being listened to. He's not done whispering in a king/queen's ear I think, but alas, nothing lasts, not for Jon and Dany.
I really hope we get some Bran/Varys scene. I want to see how they would treat each other. Bran is his kryptonite, but Varys is not a liar, just a whisperer and truth-holder.
I suspect Varys will turn his attention to Sansa.
Dany is the prince that was promised / Azor Ahai. She already sacrificed her love to forge a weapon to beat the dead (her dragons), woke dragons from salt (her tears) and stone, etc.
She brought Jon and Dany together last season. She kept her distance though, watching Jon from a cliff. Then she went back... across the sea? I think? She said she'd return to "die in this strange land."
She went to Volantis, presumably (just my wacky presumption) to round up a bunch of red priests/priestesses for the big fight.
she went to Volantis
she will be back next episode or the following probably
Interviewer: Outside of Jon's status as the heir to the Iron Throne, and outside of the fact that Sam does not believe in Daenerys' worthiness as a leader, why do you feel Sam believes Jon is the right person to govern Westeros?
John Bradley(Sam's actor):Aside from those two things, which are very important, I think you can look at it from a purely romantic point of view, if you like. Sam knows Jon really well. He knows his heart is in the right place. He knows he does things for the right reasons. He has a very strict moral code that he adheres to as much as he can. Sometimes he makes hard decisions. He never takes any decision lightly. He tries to do everything for the right reasons. That's the romantic view. If you want a more cynical version, of what's under the surface? Sam always has had a habit of manipulating Jon. He's manipulated him on so many other occasions. The reason he manipulates him in the past is to keep Gilly and Baby Sam safe. He manipulated him to be the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch because that was the best chance of getting Gilly and Baby Sam out of Castle Black and into the Citadel. If Jon is in a position of power, he thinks he can work on Jon to make as safe a life as possible for the people he cares the most about in the world. It's a little cynical, but I do think Sam is so hyper-intelligent and calculated that any plot he can scheme and any route he can take to keep Gilly and Baby Sam safe, he's going to do it. If Jon is in a position of power, then he can grease those wheels more easily. Those are two ways of looking at it. Take your pick!
Sam believes in Jon Snow. Jon Snow believes in Daenerys. Can Sam ever get on board with Jon's vision, or in his mind, has Daenerys crossed a line she can never come back from?
In terms of Sam telling Jon about his true claim to the throne, I think it was hurried along by what Daenerys told him. I think he definitely sees Daenerys as unstable, as a volatile character, as somebody who is determined to succeed without a real moral compass. She'll kill people for a minor act of disobedience. I think Sam is very wary of her now and sees how dangerous she can be — not just for Jon Snow, but also in terms of the entire Seven Kingdoms. We could have a Mad Queen here. Sam knows enough about history to know what people who are slightly unhinged and slightly unbalanced are like when they're in charge, and the damage they can cause. Sam has learned from the mistakes of history. He's never going to come around to Daenerys. He's too wise for that. He's too wary and suspicious of her now. If she's going to be incredibly destructive and volatile, then she could get the Seven Kingdoms into a worse position if she continues to be unyielding, impulsive and so violent. If she's going to continue dealing with things in such a violent way, then he can only see dark days ahead if she's on the throne. His desire to tell Jon about his claim to the Iron Throne is all but informed by his desire to make sure some of those dark days of the Mad King and the past reigns of imbalance never continue into the future. Sam has an agenda now. He definitely has an agenda.
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Daaaaamn. These are some harsh words.
John Bradley(Sam's actor):Aside from those two things, which are very important, I think you can look at it from a purely romantic point of view, if you like. Sam knows Jon really well. He knows his heart is in the right place. He knows he does things for the right reasons. He has a very strict moral code that he adheres to as much as he can. Sometimes he makes hard decisions. He never takes any decision lightly. He tries to do everything for the right reasons. That's the romantic view. If you want a more cynical version, of what's under the surface? Sam always has had a habit of manipulating Jon. He's manipulated him on so many other occasions. The reason he manipulates him in the past is to keep Gilly and Baby Sam safe. He manipulated him to be the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch because that was the best chance of getting Gilly and Baby Sam out of Castle Black and into the Citadel. If Jon is in a position of power, he thinks he can work on Jon to make as safe a life as possible for the people he cares the most about in the world. It's a little cynical, but I do think Sam is so hyper-intelligent and calculated that any plot he can scheme and any route he can take to keep Gilly and Baby Sam safe, he's going to do it. If Jon is in a position of power, then he can grease those wheels more easily. Those are two ways of looking at it. Take your pick!
Sam believes in Jon Snow. Jon Snow believes in Daenerys. Can Sam ever get on board with Jon's vision, or in his mind, has Daenerys crossed a line she can never come back from?
In terms of Sam telling Jon about his true claim to the throne, I think it was hurried along by what Daenerys told him. I think he definitely sees Daenerys as unstable, as a volatile character, as somebody who is determined to succeed without a real moral compass. She'll kill people for a minor act of disobedience. I think Sam is very wary of her now and sees how dangerous she can be — not just for Jon Snow, but also in terms of the entire Seven Kingdoms. We could have a Mad Queen here. Sam knows enough about history to know what people who are slightly unhinged and slightly unbalanced are like when they're in charge, and the damage they can cause. Sam has learned from the mistakes of history. He's never going to come around to Daenerys. He's too wise for that. He's too wary and suspicious of her now. If she's going to be incredibly destructive and volatile, then she could get the Seven Kingdoms into a worse position if she continues to be unyielding, impulsive and so violent. If she's going to continue dealing with things in such a violent way, then he can only see dark days ahead if she's on the throne. His desire to tell Jon about his claim to the Iron Throne is all but informed by his desire to make sure some of those dark days of the Mad King and the past reigns of imbalance never continue into the future. Sam has an agenda now. He definitely has an agenda.
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Daaaaamn. These are some harsh words.
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Season 4
Tywin Lannister says that one of the blacksmiths that melted down and reforged Ned Stark's sword Ice was from Volantis.[8]
Looks like Gendry is getting an upgrade
I meant to quote you.
As I told another poster, Bran and Arya are geniuses in the books. Literally, little kids with the brains of late teenagers with their genius-level IQs.
Their intellect almost breaks my immersion.
I feel like this is going to feel so rushed with just 5 episodes left.
Like are they just going to have the army of the dead resolved within 2-3 episodes?
Having them march past Winterfell and completely wreck King's Landing and Cersei before turning around for the finale would actually make it a lot more satisfying I feel.
Like are they just going to have the army of the dead resolved within 2-3 episodes?
Having them march past Winterfell and completely wreck King's Landing and Cersei before turning around for the finale would actually make it a lot more satisfying I feel.
No. Lyanna Mormont wasn't even cast until season 6 and Jorah was in Essos in season 6 and on Dragonstone in season 7.
No?
She was probably born while Jorah was in exile, so this should be the first time they meet
I've been saying it since season 7: they're setting Dany up to fall. The comments she makes during this episode really brought that home for me. Whining about how she's the queen, hinting she might punish Sansa... With Sam's revelations to Jon, we see a big fissure forming there. Once the threats of the dead and Cersei are dealt with, that rift will widen.
I'm pretty sure at this point that Dany will never sit on the Iron Throne. Not sure if Jon wil, either, but I'm definitely in his camp, not Dany's.
They're gonna get the shit kicked out of them at Winterfell. They're not ready, they're fighting with each other, they're not gonna be able to handle that ice dragon. Expect most of the ancillary characters, the ones that don't really have large story components left, to die. Tormund, Jorah, Berric, Edd, Varys, possibly one of the Lannister brothers, maybe even Sansa would be a candidate, although that'd be fucked at this point — not that I'd put it past them. And if they take Davos from us, ugh. Hound's safe because DnD are 100% in on Cleganebowl.
But yeah, expect extreme thread trimming and Bran to pull a rabbit out of a hat when he learns something super important during the battle of Winterfell so that they can get to the Night King and end it in a single stroke. The Cersei and Kings Landing stuff will get resolved during the retreat south and before the final showdown. Maybe they hold on Cersei herself getting done in until afterwards for a clean epilogue
Watch Euron oust Cersei from power before any of them get there and then Euron turns into the final villain. Saruman to the Night King's Sauron.
That would be hilarious, but I'm expecting him to go one step too far with Cersei in some way and get a gruesome death at the hands of the Mountain. Yara's scene felt like a wrap for her so I'm not expecting any direct resolution to that family squabble, and giving a faction leader a sudden, impactful death and then writing out the entire faction is right in the late-show's wheelhouse. See: Dorne, Highgarden.
The Euron-Greyjoys evaporating from the show actually makes more sense than either of those two because once Euron's dead, it's totally believable that the rest would fuck off to go pirate somewhere, assimilate into a Kings Landing fleet, or go home with their tails tucked between their legs, whereas all of Dorne and the entire population of Highgarden and its noble houses were basically just swept under the rug despite still very much being there.
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Hey, I wouldn't want this to happen!
Just worried they might pull it as a get out so he doesn't have to be punished.
Disappointing they didn't capitalize on that then to show Jorah to try and make amends. Hope the books at least touch on that if they ever come.
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