I think NK wanting to kill Bran is Brans interpretation of it. It's more like NK wants to turn Bran and have the power of the three eyed Raven on his side.
Speculation on my part of course
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Game of Thrones S8, Apr 14-May 19 @9PM EDT |OT| Aunt-Man and the Frost
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Speculation on my part of course
Legit don't know how some of you made it though the previous seasons.
Used to binge watching I suspect.
I've come to terms for a while now that they're leading up to Dany being shades of the mad king, some trauma in the coming battle will tip her over the edge and she'll do something reckless or become the antagonist.
I'm not convinced she'll even be around to face Cersei.
I'm not convinced she'll even be around to face Cersei.
2 episodes we have had like 15 minutes of meaningful events or dialogue. Some people are already showing signs of stockholm syndrome in their defence of a terribly written and acted show. Ghost being reduced to non interactive cgi is killing it too.
Yeah and it sucked as a result of how rapid everything was.
Do people just want constant, non stop action or something? How did you even make it through the first few seasons.
I'm pretty sure we saw a vision of her at a ruined King's Landing, either in a vision she saw because of the Warlocks of Qarth or maybe it was Bran seeing it, I don't know. I'm fairly convinced now that she won't see the full season out but I think given that vision there's a good chance she'll get to King's Landing anyway. But you're right, shades of her father indeed.
Did you even read what I said? If they had paced it better they could have had less action last season and slowed down a bit keeping some for this season.
It's not Mad Men, the writing and acting are not good enough for what they have attempted these last 2 weeks.
You're regularly scheduled Stannis Treatise will have to wait a bit more, fell asleep early and will have to leave for work soon. But, parts III and IV will be posted sometime today. We'll explore Stannis particular brand of justice and likely his views on religion.
I think NK already has the same powers as Bran in regards to green-seeing and if anything can most likely wield them much better than Bran can. NK was able to straight up grab and mark Brans real body while he was in a vision.
I had this image of Dany turning on Jon, commanding Rhaegal to burn him only for the dragon to turn on her. Or either dragon just refuses.
Still think more likely, prophecy passes Jon's gonna give her his cousin/her son/grand nephew or daughter/grand niece.
EDIT: People still hung up that an 18 year old wanted some first time action before possibly dying?
Still think more likely, prophecy passes Jon's gonna give her his cousin/her son/grand nephew or daughter/grand niece.
EDIT: People still hung up that an 18 year old wanted some first time action before possibly dying?
Looking forward to more text where you defend a man who burned his daughter and watched.
Jon Snow has executed children. Daenerys has burned many a people, not all of whom were guilty of any crime. Jamie Lannister pushed a child out a window. Tormund was a wilding who has killed many a innocent Northerners during his raids. The Hound ran down a child. Tyrion strangled Shae to death out of pure revenge. No one is pure.
Stannis has better reasons than most.
If Stan is had joined with Renly when he had the chance, hundred of thousands would still be alive. (Or vice versa, they're both idiots.)
I suppose you're right. I really didn't like season 7 due to the absurd amount of convenience and lack of logic in everything.
I do feel like the last episodes are going to be full of action though, don't see how they can fit in another 'slow' episode
All this talk about the supposedly abrupt Arya x Gendry got me wondering..
How long has Jon even knew Daenerys before they jumped under the blanket? How many lines of flirting was exchanged? What kind of events they went through together to forge a bond enough to want to bang?
Not sarcasm btw.
I'm asking in all sincerity because I'm mostly a book reader and only skimmed the highlights after they run out of book material. Mostly after The Green Trial ugh that's the one of the most cop out conclusion of an ark I've ever seen bleargh
How long has Jon even knew Daenerys before they jumped under the blanket? How many lines of flirting was exchanged? What kind of events they went through together to forge a bond enough to want to bang?
Not sarcasm btw.
I'm asking in all sincerity because I'm mostly a book reader and only skimmed the highlights after they run out of book material. Mostly after The Green Trial ugh that's the one of the most cop out conclusion of an ark I've ever seen bleargh
If Robb had joined with Stannis instead of crowning himself King, hundreds of thousands would still be alive.
Yeah this whole "I'm here because I love your brother" feels kinda unearned, but maybe I'm just forgetting a lot of interactions from last season.
I guess people are allowed to their opinions, but I do have to admit the negative comments ruin my fun in this thread. I come here to read theories and speculations, not people arguing if it is a good or bad episode and why. Maybe there should be a different kind of review thread.
I've been reading that people think Tyrion and Jaime will survive? I believe Jaime is going to do something heroic and then die later, or die doing it. Per his conversation with Bran, I believe there is no after the fight for Jaime.
I've been reading that people think Tyrion and Jaime will survive? I believe Jaime is going to do something heroic and then die later, or die doing it. Per his conversation with Bran, I believe there is no after the fight for Jaime.
Lady Stoneheart was shit, glad Beric is still around doing his thing in the show instead of that mess.
Though that book scene with Brienne meeting her was so good.
Shout out to the Normies, lol.We didn't need the male gazy camera work. It feels weird, cause we've known Arya since she was a kid. And she's never been sexualized. So when the show suddenly decides, "K let's sexualize Arya," it feels weird even in context.
That and aside from literally one glance ever, Arya just never seemed the type to be interested in that type of thing.
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If you have your own opinion and enjoy the show than nothing these vinegar-pissers say will do anything to change that. Just laugh it off and enjoy.
He didn't crown himself :P but that's the least of Robb's problems really. Stannis didn't have the support he needed to combat the Lannisters. Renly had 100k soldiers and the Tyrell warchest at the time they met and Stannis decided to put a ghost baby dagger in his heart and let the Tyrells go back to Tywin instead.
This scene is so good, can't remember the last time the show had something like this. The action set pieces are still great but I think it lacks these big intense character moments. It certainly misses an actor like Charles Dance who can really steal a scene.
Nah, it's awesome. One of the best twists in the books.
And there's not a whole lot of her in the books. She's mostly been this invisible background influence fucking shit up who is only revealed in an epilogue-twist that is still unresolved, 14 years later.
Lmfao, it's been so long I'm starting to forget. I told myself I wouldn't re-read the books until tWoW is out.
Renly is the bigger idiot.
Stanis was the older brother and rightful king, Renly was like "Nah, I think I can do better" and fucks everything up.
Haha totally, perfect example right here with this guy:
How is it awkward and out of left field? Remember the earlier seasons when they're travelling with the Brotherhood? Nah probably not. There's a scene where Arya says something like "you could be my family" to Gendry. The seed was planted way back then. If you wern't expecting Arya and Gendry to get together at some point then you wern't paying attention mate. She was even flirty with him in last week's episode. It's absolutely believable and in character that she would want to experience sex before what could possibly be the end of the world.
Keep up.
For sure.
It's impossible to gauge how good Lady Stoneheart will be as she hasn't been in the books for more than a couple of pages. We're going to need more from Brienne and Jaime's point of view chapters before any claims of rubbishness can be made.
Rightful means jack when Joffrey already usurped the throne before them. They should have joined for the good of their house and the people of westeros and they may have if not for the red woman and Stannis being a prideful idiot.
None of them burned their own child alive, sacrificed for literally no good reason.
Book Stannis is apparently better, but tv show Stannis was 100% awful.
Renly should have just never claimed the throne like an idiot when he neither has the right or the capability to rule the seven kingdoms.
This quote from the books summarizes the situation of baratheon bros pretty well:
"Robert was the true steel. Stannis is pure iron, black and hard and strong, yes, but brittle, the way iron gets. He'll break before he bends. And Renly, that one, he's copper, bright and shiny, pretty to look at but not worth all that much at the end of the day."
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It's true at the start until his defeat at blackwater, but Stannis's arc in ASOS and ADWD is about showing the part of the quote about him is not entirely true.
and fyi donal noye said that not varys.
Olenna said it best - Renly's claim was pure treason.
The best chance the Realm stood after Robert's death would have been Stannis as King with Renly as his Hand. That would not be met with any opposition from the Reach, the Stormlands, the North, the Riverlands or the Eyrie, and with the Lannisters gone they could have patched things up with Dorne. That would have left the Westerlands isolated, and unless they planned on joining forces with the Ironborn who they despise, the Lannisters would be kept at bay.
Stannis would have been a frugal king who would have prioritised clearing the Iron Bank debt, and Renly would be the diplomat and champion of the common folk, which would counteract the effects of Stannis being a miserable grump with zero people skills. Alas, it was not to be.
The best chance the Realm stood after Robert's death would have been Stannis as King with Renly as his Hand. That would not be met with any opposition from the Reach, the Stormlands, the North, the Riverlands or the Eyrie, and with the Lannisters gone they could have patched things up with Dorne. That would have left the Westerlands isolated, and unless they planned on joining forces with the Ironborn who they despise, the Lannisters would be kept at bay.
Stannis would have been a frugal king who would have prioritised clearing the Iron Bank debt, and Renly would be the diplomat and champion of the common folk, which would counteract the effects of Stannis being a miserable grump with zero people skills. Alas, it was not to be.
If Renly joined Stannis there would have never been something called a Rainbow Guard. It was a risk too big to take.
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The crypt scenes should be swell on my eyes.
Don't worry I'm sure they will have little sam and gilly having their faces eaten off be extremely clearIf Renly joined Stannis there would have never been something called a Rainbow Guard. It was a risk too big to take.
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The crypt scenes should be swell on my eyes.
It's easy to see with hindsight, but at the time Stannis had been defeated and had few supporters, Renly had the people and the army even if he was a bit of a pawn in the Tyrell's plans.
Manipulation has always been a big player in GoT.
I really don't get the Arya scene "hate". She's a young woman, of course she's gonna fuck around.
Jamie is going to die saving either Tyrion or Bran, don't know how tho since we still need a final confrontation between Cersei and Jamie.
If she truly became a compashinless machine she would have followed through with becoming a faceless. Her holding on to her identity, was holding on to some humanity. Which she's now explored a bit more by picking up on the interest she had in Gendry. Literally, her letting go of her identity was presented as THE point of no return.
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I once read a theory that what ultimately doomed Stannis was something as minor as his opposition to the King's Landing prostitution industry. That that was what turned Littlefinger into a hardcore anti-Stannis partisan, leading LF making the call to kill Jon Arryn when Jon and Stannis got too close in their investigation into Robert's bastards/the legitimacy of Cersei's children, and then pushing Renly hard to Ned Stark after Roberts death, which Ned refused since it was the least legitimate of all the claims put forward, and then negotiating for the the Tyrells to flip to Joffrey rather than to Stannis after Renly's death, with the agreement being that he would help Olenna take out Joffrey to protect Margaery if the rumors about his poor character ended up being true. That basically all of the first three books of LF are him taking the most anti-Stannis option on the table to protect his brothels.
You know seeing all these character together in the same place really makes me wish the show had gone with the more ostentatious House colours/armour that's described in the books instead of everyone wearing the same boring black & brown outfits.
Would have been really nice to see some actual visual representation of all the different Houses coming together and no doubt keep it clear who's who when it all kicks off next episode.
Would have been really nice to see some actual visual representation of all the different Houses coming together and no doubt keep it clear who's who when it all kicks off next episode.
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