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Game of Thrones S8, Apr 14-May 19 @9PM EDT |OT| Aunt-Man and the Frost
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I buy this, but again, the stakes ended up feeling so low.
What did this same kind of scene better: Snowpiercer. That moment where Chris Evans sees a friend in need
, but knows he has to do something else or they'll fail, has all the more resonance because that decision does end up with his friend dead, even if it was the "right" one for moving forward.
I can't really agree here. This story (not necessarily the show, so I may lose points here) is filled to the brim with prophecies and visions that have ultimately proved to be true. While many have been misinterpreted (aka thinking it is about one person or one place, but its actually about something different) they've ultimately been quite accurate. I don't think GRRM has placed so many in the story to say "look here, prophecies are bs" but more to say "don't rely on prophecies and think ''I'm the chosen one and therefore I will win', because that won't always work out for you".
Hahaha it's more that I actually liked both characters and was particuarly sad to see Jorah go, though it was expected. I agree that both characters had reached natural conclusions to their arcs, and their deaths made sense.
Cept he's not.
She becomes super assassin at the end of season 6.
She didn't fail the stealth section rewatch the scene. She made it past the room without alerting them, even going so far as to use sound lures. But a random horde was storming a different section of the castle and ended up where she was. It was literally a case of bad luck
Jon is literally that type of character. Arya is nowhere near close to being a mary sue. You're missing the overall point that literally every single woman in fiction who does something significant or gets highlights no matter how much justification exists to justify their skillset is referred to as a mary sue. This isn't even the first time this has happened with this show. When Brienne beat the Hound there were losers calling her a mary sue. It's their short hand for "stop letting female characters be power fantasies too."
No clue, given that he writes at the approximate speed of the average wight stumbling around, we may still not have an answer to that for a while
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Cersei had an undead delivered to her throne room but decided keeping her chair was more important.
She's batshit mate.
Cersei lit up a an entire sept full of people to kill Margaery.
Cersei had an undead delivered to her throne room but decided keeping her chair was more important.
She's batshit mate.
Finally watched and... I'm a bit disappointed ultimately. The episode was shot fantastically, cinematography and scale top notch. Some incredible moments in the mix like Arya in the library, Lyanna Mormont's final stab at the giant and of course, Arya's killing blow move with the call back to her spar with Brienne. But there were so many things that didn't work for me.
The plot armour almost everyone seemed to have, made worse by the constant attempts at building tension by cutting away from a hero character just as a half dozen wights swarm them. Only to jump back later and they'd still be fighting off the dead fine and dandy.
Brienne and Jamie pinned, suffocated and generally swarmed by the dead but every time being fine. Jon being literally surrounded after the Night King turned about and raised them, cut away and back and he's deftly dealing with them one by one before the dragon save. Jorah and Dany in the middle of nowhere fighting off the dead too. There are hundreds of thousands of these things, and they're holding them off? (And don't get me started on Sam)
I'd say my biggest issue is between Bran and the Night King + White Walkers. I'm assuming there will be explanations in the subsequent episodes, but for the time being... what the hell was Bran doing beyond being bait? What was he warging into? I wish there was more pay off to his long ass journey being hauled across the seven kingdoms beyond his encyclopedia. And the Night King, he finally arrives in the land of the living with his dragon after 8 seasons and... they're dealt with in an episode. Done.
For Christ sake the White Walkers were background extras...
The plot armour almost everyone seemed to have, made worse by the constant attempts at building tension by cutting away from a hero character just as a half dozen wights swarm them. Only to jump back later and they'd still be fighting off the dead fine and dandy.
Brienne and Jamie pinned, suffocated and generally swarmed by the dead but every time being fine. Jon being literally surrounded after the Night King turned about and raised them, cut away and back and he's deftly dealing with them one by one before the dragon save. Jorah and Dany in the middle of nowhere fighting off the dead too. There are hundreds of thousands of these things, and they're holding them off? (And don't get me started on Sam)
I'd say my biggest issue is between Bran and the Night King + White Walkers. I'm assuming there will be explanations in the subsequent episodes, but for the time being... what the hell was Bran doing beyond being bait? What was he warging into? I wish there was more pay off to his long ass journey being hauled across the seven kingdoms beyond his encyclopedia. And the Night King, he finally arrives in the land of the living with his dragon after 8 seasons and... they're dealt with in an episode. Done.
For Christ sake the White Walkers were background extras...
That ending was the most insulting thing the show ever did.
The long night came and went in one hour, no main characters died. All the prophecy, valyrian swords, lore meant nothing as spectacle triumphed yet again over reason, logic and respecting the events in the show itself over the past 8 seasons.
Dumb and Dumber really outdid themselves here, which is amazing considering seasons 5,6 and 7.
P.S. The gloating and smugness in post episode wrap ups from them is so funny.
The long night came and went in one hour, no main characters died. All the prophecy, valyrian swords, lore meant nothing as spectacle triumphed yet again over reason, logic and respecting the events in the show itself over the past 8 seasons.
Dumb and Dumber really outdid themselves here, which is amazing considering seasons 5,6 and 7.
P.S. The gloating and smugness in post episode wrap ups from them is so funny.
Bingo. Hell, you could probably take a stab at twisting the prophecy so it fits Arya, too. That's the whole thing with these prophecies: they're vague and they're bullshit.
Arya's been training for so long, and even showcased how stealthily she could move earlier in the same damn episode. The Night King still saw her coming, too: it's only her sleight of hand that saved the day. Something a real warrior like Jon never would've been able to pull, most like.
The resolution wasn't perfect. They could've built certain things up a bit better. But ultimately, this was some damn good television.
What's wrong with that? And Sam is not a fan favorite, IMO. Very few give much of a shit for him anymore, but I love him.
Some characters shouldn't be killed. It wouldn't be a shock, it would just piss off.
I keep going back and forth on the episode. I think in terms of big battle episodes, I enjoyed Battle of the Bastards more. But that is also one of my favorite episodes in the whole series, so it was always going to be hard to top. I thought the scene with Arya sneaking around the library was weird and out of place. But other than that, I thought it was fine. Also, I thought it was known that if the Night King dies, the army of the dead disappears as well. It also seemed like there was little planning on the side of the living, but once the Dothraki got taken out almost instantly, it was pretty much survival mode after that.
But one thing I just thought of: this is a show that has in seasons past subverted expectations with killing off main characters and twists. Knowing that makes Arya killing the Night King fit in this series. We all expected Jon Snow to have this epic sword fight with the Night King, or something with Bran. But it turns out to be a sneak attack by Arya that takes out the Night King, and the more I think about it, the more I like it. At first my impression was "how did she get there?" But I didn't realize the weirwood tree was inside the castle walls, and I forgot about her assassin training. Yeah, it's not the most airtight reasoning, but it could be worse.
I think I need to watch it again to be honest. But to be real, after three episodes I've been enjoying this season way more than last season. My biggest gripe with the episode last night was it didn't feel as climactic as it should have been since they've been building up this battle since the very first scene.
But one thing I just thought of: this is a show that has in seasons past subverted expectations with killing off main characters and twists. Knowing that makes Arya killing the Night King fit in this series. We all expected Jon Snow to have this epic sword fight with the Night King, or something with Bran. But it turns out to be a sneak attack by Arya that takes out the Night King, and the more I think about it, the more I like it. At first my impression was "how did she get there?" But I didn't realize the weirwood tree was inside the castle walls, and I forgot about her assassin training. Yeah, it's not the most airtight reasoning, but it could be worse.
I think I need to watch it again to be honest. But to be real, after three episodes I've been enjoying this season way more than last season. My biggest gripe with the episode last night was it didn't feel as climactic as it should have been since they've been building up this battle since the very first scene.
He was on borrowed time when he stepped foot into Winterfell. When he gave the dagger to Bran I knew he signed his death sentence, its the dagger he betrayed Ned with and Bran can see shit. I was glad he went out like a little bitch. He was cool in the earlier episodes but him playing Sansa against Arya was really useless. Like he just had to con people because he was a con man as long as he was on the screen and they had nothing for him left so they probably wrote this Arya - Sansa - LF story to create a decent reason to finally kill him off.
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Browning the butter
Star Wars here we come.
I don't disagree at all. I'm more or less just paraphrasing what the actual directors said about that sequence in that 40 minute "making of" video posted on the last page or so (I watched da whole thing).
The idea that so many fans (even here on ERA) hold of Cersei being a mastermind is laughable. She has been insane and irrational since the very start of the show.
hilarious and great if she's still on the throne at the end of the season.
A) it was almost 90 minutes
B) it wasn't 90 minutes for them
C) The "long night" would have only been "long" if the walkers had won.
She killed hundreds or maybe even a thousand of her own people with a nuke because they found out that she fucks her brother and because her sons wife was more popular than her.
She is crazy.
She should march North now and catch them with their pants down.
hilarious and great if she's still on the throne at the end of the season.
tbqh, who has proven themselves more worthy?
hilarious and great if she's still on the throne at the end of the season.
she's laid waste to every usurper and made every form of deal and pact to get here. Who do you trust to draw first and land their shot in a stare down? I'm taking her for $400, Alex.
Maybe the Azor Ahai twist will be that Cersei is the Darkness, and Jon Snow, being Azor Ahai, and Longclaw being Lightbringer, is the one who take her out somehow, and he had to kill Dany as his Nissa-Nissa because she became a problem
She goes about Westeros murdering between then and now. I mean she goes from Essos back to Westeros, on here way to King's Landing from the Twins, then back up to Winterfell in the course of like two episodes.
The show has all sorts of time cuts and such that seem like fast travel, but if you grant that actual time has gone by for these travelings to happen, you gotta think shit was going on that is unseen in the show? I dunno.
to both of you. bullshit. First of all people like you or the people i quoted have been complaining about plot armor since like season 1. So yes not killing off your shows favorite characters over 7 seasons is kind of important.
Ned was never truly a main character, obviously. He was presented as such and then killed for the "subversion effect" that some of you are so in love with. Using the Starks since they're literally the first named characters introduced to us. And yet the only other important starks to die were Catelyn and Robb, Cat arguably wasn't all that important. At a certain point you have to have these characters to continue the story. It wouldn't make any sense and it would be really difficult to make the audience care about new characters trying to replace these ones. They're never going to kill Sansa or Arya or Bran for that matter. Until the last episode if at all. Nor will they kill Jon Snow. So like if your looking for all of these characters to die, they're highly unlikely to do so. Of the A-list characters Cersei and Dany are the only two i would put at anything higher than 50% chance of dying.
considering that the main job of HBO is to make money, producing unprofitable shows is unlikely to keep new shows coming.
for all of you name one show not named CSI or Law Order bullshit that replaced or killed off well loved main characters and continued success?
Incredible episode. One of my favorite battle scenes ever. Goose bumps all the way.
I'm wondering though... the move where Arya dropped the dagger into her right hand; had that particular move occured in a previous episode? I felt like I'd seen it somewhere before. Maybe a different movie, if not in GoT?
I'm wondering though... the move where Arya dropped the dagger into her right hand; had that particular move occured in a previous episode? I felt like I'd seen it somewhere before. Maybe a different movie, if not in GoT?
I'm seeing some people questioning why Melisandre just decided to die at the end in various places
Mel probably used up all of her power, or prayed to be able to help in the fight against the Others in exchange for her life. That's why she was so sure she would die before the dawn when Davos went to confront her. The fact that she can suddenly use real deal pyromancy and appeared apparently magically from the darkness in the north implies that her life fire, her power is burning as bright as she possibly can before her flame goes out. She completed the goal of her very long life in the name of her god, and now she can rest.
The way she went out was great, in my opinion. If she was just hanging around in the background after the White Walker army has been defeated, it would have been dumb. We don't need another Varys hanging around.
Mel probably used up all of her power, or prayed to be able to help in the fight against the Others in exchange for her life. That's why she was so sure she would die before the dawn when Davos went to confront her. The fact that she can suddenly use real deal pyromancy and appeared apparently magically from the darkness in the north implies that her life fire, her power is burning as bright as she possibly can before her flame goes out. She completed the goal of her very long life in the name of her god, and now she can rest.
The way she went out was great, in my opinion. If she was just hanging around in the background after the White Walker army has been defeated, it would have been dumb. We don't need another Varys hanging around.
I loved the first 10 minutes of the episode, I think most people do. The show kind of fell apart near the end, but it was still good and memorable. I was shocked, SHOCKED to see Arya jump into frame. I liked the episode overall, it was only hours later and now the day after that I have just minor annoyances with some of the execution and also the entire army of the dead being built up for 7 seasons only for it to end in 1 battle and so abruptly feels.. its feels cheapened like I was just cut with a dull knife or some shit.
I hope they still have some big scenes, big deaths left. The final twist that could correct any mistakes this episode made would be that Little Finger did indeed fake his death and he comes back in some way near the end.
I hope they still have some big scenes, big deaths left. The final twist that could correct any mistakes this episode made would be that Little Finger did indeed fake his death and he comes back in some way near the end.
Because he was thinking of the future of man, and not his bro. I was literally yelling at him to leave him. And I love Sam.
Also- just FYI- they've got docs like this on Go/Now for all episodes in recent seasons. They're called, "The Game Revealed." They're pretty well done.
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Her response to seeing a zombie and being told that it was the fate of her citizens was the following when someone wouldn't kneel:
They are not ready for the destruction the Star Wars fanbase will bring upon them LOLOL
When she was practicing with Brienne in the courtyard she did a similar move.
heavy shit right there, homie. and real tears.
he did great as an analog for how normal people would behave in the utter chaos of war.
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They are just going to remove themselves from social media
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