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Game of Thrones S8, Apr 14-May 19 @9PM EDT |OT| Aunt-Man and the Frost
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Unfortunately HBO doesn't offer 4k. I'm not sure they even do on their retail Blu-ray releases
Yeah, they just seriously fucked up Stannis in the show. In the show after Davos reads the Nights Watch letter, Stannis still wants to burn and only stops because Melisandre tells him to. In the books he actually praises Davos for reminded him of his duty, and we get the whole "Saving the kingdom to win the throne" deal. Completely missing in the show where Stannis is just a prick.
D&D are contractually obligated to include dick and balls jokes every season, it seems like. I dislike them, seem out of place somehow, especially when they're so repetitive.
You are seriously misreading the character. In the books the subversion with the character is he's not as brittle and unbending as people perceive him to be, he's been shown to be a very practical thinker especially once he saves the nights watch. Stannis is completely in his element in the upcoming battle, the Boltons are going to be tricked to come out into the lake he's been encouraging his men to fish on and drown them all. He has multiple victories both in the show and the books that demonstrate how good he is (greyjoy rebellion against victarion, keeping storms end etc) . In the show he didn't get the wildling to fight with him. He actually killed mance raider rather than using him, and doesn't have the Manderley's about to turn on the boltons etc, which is how the show justified him losing and giving his battle to Jon Snow.
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Isn't it obvious that Bran will just let it slide a la "I'm not bran anymore" or even "I wouldn't have those powers if you didn't push me" yadda yadda so he'll forgive Jaime and tell people who want to mount his head on a pike to fuck off ?
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Speaking of the books, I keep coming back to one last character showing up that we haven't seen yet. I'll spoiler this just in case show only people want to avoid a potential twist.
i think there's a real possibility "Harry Strickland" reveals himself to be Aegon. I finished Dance with Dragons recently and Harry is rather unassuming, middle aged and balding. Then again current Harry isn't exactly full on Targaryen looking, so I have my doubts.
Been rewatching a bunch of early thrones...why are all the Lannisters no longer golden haired now? Jamie, Cersei, Tyrion - all brown haired. Did the show just decide not to bother keeping them blonde anymore?
So don't know if this has been brought up in this giant thread, but I was reminded of it via AVClub and rewatch - Dany has the loyalty of the Lord of Light fanatics, and Mellisandre went east at the end of S7 but said that she had to die in Westeros. Seems pretty likely we're going to see a giant army of loyal fanatics show up in Westeros to help fight the White Walkers. I guess it'll be a bonus if they're all good with fire.
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Seems like some fate type stuff he has already realized. I fully expect him to sit silently and say one or two cryptic things while everyone wants Jaime's throat though. Hope I'm wrong and he tells everyone to stfu.
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That's not a good reason, for all we know it would be the same in the books.
But yeah I have been harping about the GC leader stealing Jon's real name out of convenience and taking the throne, marrying Sansa. Nice to see I'm not the only one:)
Varys is sick of Jon and Dany. If he starts to turn to Sansa...
I doubt they bring fAegon in this late, but if they do, I think he'd more likely be JonConn than Aegon.
I'd be shocked if Jon isn't named Aegon in the books. It would be kind've poetic if the real Aegon Targaryen was thought to be a bastard, and someone pretending to be Aegon Targaryen was a Blackfyre(bastard Targaryens)
Harry looks way, way too old for that. It's not happening. He looks more like Jaime than anything else.
Another show review and some theme analysis from a self described "book wanker" Ozzyman. NSFW language. He's less cynical and more just funny about the episode.
This is a show that thought the audience was too dumb to know asha is a different name than osha. They aren't going to call Jon aegon, then introduce someone with the same name. There's zero chance of it happening
cersei's redemption arc begins with the revelation that the twins were separated at birth so there really was no incest.
I DO think the Harry actor was chosen on purpose and then made to cut his hair similarly to early Jaime, at least.
I just don't think he could reasonably pass for someone who would be the same age as Jon.
Hermione defeats the Night King using wit and the threat of expulsion.
That's the plot of the two Johns in The Accursed Kings, check the wiki if you haven't read the books. That's where I feel the story is going, with Jon's reputation ruined, his good deeds going to Aegon's benefit.
I keep posting this quote from the books about this:
Yes, and that quote still remains only in the books. And is symbolic of a different arc than the one Show Jon went through.
Many people did, don't let the internet fool you lol.
I have my gripes, but it was a good first episode.
But there is already two Aegons in the show. Oberyn was all about avenging his sister and her children.
Honestly, how many people actually remember Aegon in the show? I bet most people would be super confused by his appearance if he was actually put into the show.
To the best of my knowledge Oberyn never says their names. And even if he did if you asked a thousand viewers about them I am willing to bet 99% of them could not name the children.
You are pointlessly reaching. Again. I don't understand why you do this to yourself. Its embarrassing.
Hell, I would hazard a guess that a lot of people don't even really remember Oberyn anymore.
Ha, but the thing is none of this matters since I think the GC leader STEALS Jon's true name.
In the books.
This is not the books. This is the show and there is no other Aegon. And given the shows end is gonna be the same as the books ending that should tell you something.
Harry looks nothing like a Targaryen. His eyes aren't purple, his hair is regular blonde. People would much easier believe Jon as a Targ bastard of a Stark that can ride a dragon compared to a man in his mid-forties who looks exactly like a Lannister and works for the Lannisters and their cartoonishly corrupt queen.
Young Griff, on the other hand, DOES look like a Targ. This is why anyone is even willing to believe him in the first place.
Lmfao, right? fAegon's a no show people. Forget about it.
The Golden company are here and Jon Connington is nowhere to be seen, Harry Strickland is just some generic commander who'll probably get burned or w/e.
In the grand scheme of things fAegon wasn't going to be important for the conclusion anyway. At least I believe so.
We all know it isn't going to happen, but are desperate for something to have characters like Varys make sense. Removing Aegon was probably the worst decision D&D made, putting Cersei on the throne instead what I assume will be Aegon in the books also made no ducking sense. I feel like most of the stupid from season 5 to now is a direct result of this decision.
Jon looks even less like one. Aegon is supposed to be half Dornish. If people can believe Ned's bastard who is supporting mad Dany suddenly turns out to be Aegon Targaryen (an usurper's name since he is not claiming to be the other Aegon), that Rhaegar was actually married to Lyanna which they have no proof of and which the maesters will never provide, then yeah, maybe he has a chance.
He doesn't:)
Harry has, if he claims to be Aegon (the only one people know of), the "right family name, and a powerful army", which is what Varys said was needed to rule.
Olenna also said, when speaking of Sansa with Varys and Varys was telling her LF was trying to get himself a powerful army:
Varys: "You are not the only one who has taken an interest in her."
Olenna: "That's hardly surprising. She is a beautiful girl with a famous name."
Varys: "Indeed, she'd make a lovely match for the right suitor."
Varys and the GC leader as a couple is Varys' wet dream. Varys is the master of whispers. Varys said power resides where men believe it resides, a mummer's trick, a shadow on the wall. Varys is done with Dany and Jon according to what he said in ep1. Dany threatened to burn him alive if he plotted behind her back if he lost faith in her. It won't be for Jon.
One could hope, but it doesn't look like they are doing it by casting someone in their late 30's-early 40's instead of early 20's(which is how old Aegon would be)
Most likely he is just a namedropped redshirt unfortunately
The problem is that Harry looks considerably too old to be Rhaegar's kid. He looks like Jaime, he looks to be the same age as Jaime. He could not possibly pass for someone born at the end of Robert's Rebellion.
Some people just want an ending that makes no one happy, I guess.
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I'm honestly not sure what is a more pants-on-head absurd theory - Arya is dead and it's actually the Waif, or, with 5 episodes of the series left, a new character will be introduced who claims to be a Targaeryan and actually ends up as king at the end of the series. They are both theories that utterly ignore how television storytelling functions.
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