Why would Brienne leave Winterfell in the next ep? Sansa is seemingly staying behind, I would think she would too. If she doesn't I wonder what the reasoning would be unless Sansa tells her to go.
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Game of Thrones S8 |OT2| Please do not post spoilers here - assume all episodes have been leaked - spoiler tag all future episode speculation
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They need all the swords they can get. No reason to leave a knight behind, I doubt somebody would try to backstab winterfell in that time, it's a ruin too anyway.
In the book, there is the "great other" and "the night king" are seperate things. In interviews, Martin has straight stated the night king is a legend like lan the clever, it's unlikely he's alive a thousand years on. The great other on the other hand, is brought up by Melisandre as to still be around and supposed to oppose azor azhai. The show just...combined the great other and the night king into one
I think the plan was to allow them to advance and then swoop in and roast the WW on horses in one swoop. It fell to pieces during the charge of the light brigade.
Oh god, an ending like that would explain why Martin has been distancing the books so much from the show lately. He's right, art isn't a democracy it's a dictatorship. Things shouldnt be done and characters shouldn't be kept around just because they're popular
Yeah, the Great Other is more of a deity figure while the Night's King is more of a legendary figure.
Neither are likely to be alive today. Neither are confirmed to have even existed at all.
The Night's King was a Lord Commander of the Night's Watch who declared himself a king.
Apart from having a similar title, he's not really related to the Night King.
See this would have been awesome. Even if its not something that happens in the books it would be an awesome way to tie that bit of mysticism into the show. If that happens you can have wights break into the crypt and then have the people hiding fall back while the dead Starks defend them. You can still have the whole Tyrion/Sansa scared scene without the whole unbelievably written aspect of "oh all the unnamed characters are getting killed but looks here's Vary's and his group conveniently safe in a dark little corner.
Thats exactly what theyre setting it up for. She's been taking L's left and right ever since she lost Viserion in Season 7. She doesn't trust Tryion and no more Jorah to reign in her impulsive nature? Its quite obvious this is the way they will take her character.
Ehhh
According to legend, Night's King lived during the Age of Heroes, not long after the Wall was complete. He was a fearless warrior named the thirteenth Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. Later, he fell in love with a woman "with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars". He chased her and loved her though "her skin was cold as ice", and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well. Night's King brought her back to the Nightfort and after the unholy union, he declared himself king and her his queen, and ruled the Nightfort as his own castle for thirteen years.
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Night's_King
There is an early connection to the Others (e. g. White Walkers)
Well calcium is in your bones, and the Night King is the king of skeletons
Therefore, yes
Did all of the late Stark family get resurrected or just those in the past year or two? Maybe their graves weren't as fortified as the older ones.
He actually raised those skeletons years ago and they've been slowly tap tap tapping their way out in preparation for this day.
Everyone they showed was naturally mummified due to the arid cold.
I couldn't tell which ones they were. Everything in this episode was so dark
It's a major theme that Martin has been hitting on. He has a quote where he says how in fantasy dating back to tolkein good and bad is blatantly obvious. good guy is beautiful and dressed in white, bad guy is usually dressed in black and ugly. Not to mention he's pointed out that everyone is the good guy in their own mind. It's not an uncommon theory in the book community that Danny will lose her shit and go all fire and blood like Targaryens always do
The only Wight we got a good look at seemed to be really fucking old and wasn't any of the show's dead Starks so this wouldn't really make sense.
Even then stone is hard. You need a fuckton of muscle to punch through that shit.
I see this as actually two episodes.
One episode that has great direction by Sapochnik and is a visual feast.
One episode that has some of the most gutless and lazy writing I have yet experienced by those two hacks.
Overall I did enjoy it as a standalone episode/movie, but definitely not as an important part of the show.
One episode that has great direction by Sapochnik and is a visual feast.
One episode that has some of the most gutless and lazy writing I have yet experienced by those two hacks.
Overall I did enjoy it as a standalone episode/movie, but definitely not as an important part of the show.
I was going to say that they're all buried with a rock hammer and a poster of Rita Hayworth but you beat me to the joke. :(
I agree and I believe I've read around about the books making her have a shakier disposition. Unfortunately the shows is a bit too subtle and has taken too long to show that aspect of her character and now theyre going to rush to show it in 3 episodes. So even if it makes sense thematically, youll still have people upset because "Dany was never an unhinged character".
I personally look forward to her going head first after the one thing her character as always been centered around, the Iron Throne.
So the Wights are strong enough to break through stone but not strong enough to break through the guard of a single flesh-covered human? They couldn't get down the doors of the Crypt but they could break through the stone walls of the Crypt's coffins?
I know "it's a show with fantasy elements!" and all but it just seems that the Wights are what the show wanted them to be at any given time instead of an actual entity. Every other fantastical thing in the show is decidedly not that.
And yes it is a nitpick lol, but considering the Crypt scenes barely even mattered in the end it's a nitpick that is given more attention than it should. If they're not going to kill any of the named characters down there they should have just had the Wights batter the door down and come in that way; maybe have a Wight ban on the stone coffin and fail to get anywhere before there's a big jump scare and they start streaming from the stairs.
Swords, hammers, chisels... the Starks really are buried with a full carry-on luggage :p
Magic!
If you have a high bitrate stream its not bad during the day time.
And I know you're joking 🙃
Just seems like you're running out of things to complain about here haha
On a serious note, I haven't checked but are the dead in the crypt completely entombed? If they're just in a sarcophogus or whatever then they should have just had them open normally. I never paid much attention to that part.
While still not great, I rewatched parts of it right now in the middle of the night. And it does look clearer than in the morning when I first watched it.
Curios what Dany will do now. She neither has power in name or armies at this point besides her dragons
It was dragonwood.just remember the skeleton that could not get out of the wooden crate
oh i am not attacking the show in anyway, these details dont bother me, i just wanted to help the person who was annoyed by it. but thank you for clearing that up
Seemed like there were a decent amount of unsullied left in the next episode preview (though there really shouldn't be, everything outside the castle walls should have probably been completely decimated)
The books are wonderful in that it's super subtle and slow her descent from "yaas queen!" to "she sounds kind of entitled..." To "okay I don't think she's a good person..." Another beautiful point about the pov characters and always been the good guy in your own mind. Each pov characters is a very unreliable narrator due to either being deluded or not (understandably) having the whole picture. Often times a characters true demeanour and whatnot is revealed when you see them through the pov of someone else. Danny is the only character in the entire series to not have pov chapter characters around her with the exception of a singular Jorah chapter in the most recent book. But that chapter had shit hitting the fan so all he could focus on was what he needed to do and never even saw Danny. The pieces are all laid out. For all we know she could be a raving lunatic being taken advantage of by others for her dragons and power
Tuesday night I tried streaming through Xfinity On Demand and all the blacks looked terrible......gonna try HBO GO tonight I guess.
Eh, I'm not really complaining about this in particular, I'm just not a fan of dismissive 'it's just magic' posts. The original post was mainly for the Calcium joke tbh.
Though it's mostly just a single example of why I thought the Wights weren't a believable threat throughout the episode; the notion that they weren't a 'real' thing in that world but a plot device that shifted on the fly depending on what the story needed them to do/be. A lot worse was when Jon gets surrounded by the fuckers only for them to change from '28 Days Later' zombies to 'Romero' zombies, or when we see an entire scene dedicated to their super hearing only for everyone in the Crypts to end up A-OK hiding behind the coffins despite not having Arya's 100 in the Stealth stat.
Yeah, this is one nitpick I'll have to agree with. The shit that happened in the crypts seemed pretty inconsequential, just more loss of life. It feels like they had to have tension so we could get that moment with Sansa and Tyrion.
Yeah. I really really hope it won't go down the Sansa v Danny route, but if she is just strong enough still while being severely weakened they probably will which is annoying.
If they do, stop writing them into impossible situations for them to miraculously survive.
Gunna pull this out of my ass, but maybe the NK being close causes them to have stronger abilities.
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