Spanish-speaking Era will appreciate this one. I laughed out loud for real when I saw it.
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Game of Thrones S8 |OT2| Please do not post spoilers here - assume all episodes have been leaked - spoiler tag all future episode speculation
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Spanish-speaking Era will appreciate this one. I laughed out loud for real when I saw it.
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Wow I never thought of it that way. That's actually quite poetic.
Are we also going to ignore that mental health is potentially hereditary, and consistent emotional trauma can transform people into monsters?
I liked the sun thing as a gimmick to get her close, but then they left any semblance of that when she was torching the city.
Its not shocking that the northerners have some built up rage towards the south by now.
Just because Lord Snow is noble and was raised by the noble Eddard Stark doesnt mean your average foot soldier has the same code.
Just because Lord Snow is noble and was raised by the noble Eddard Stark doesnt mean your average foot soldier has the same code.
I'm actually ok with Dany going mad queen considering what had happened to her recently and it was actually pretty satisfying watching it happen, I'm still just annoyed at how we got here. Her going north and getting no appreciation even after saving everyone just seemed really unrealistic. Jon acting super weird around her didn't seem realistic. Sansa plotting against her didn't seem to have any good reasons behind it. Rhaegal dying the way he did and Missandei getting captured was just stupid. All of this happening within the span of a few episodes makes it even worse.
Easily the best scene from the season. Scene was great.
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one of the popular 'hero' isn't nobelly saving people but essentially bombing a city in retaliation with weapon that she's had all this time. Very different from fan sevice and hero worship I thought they might be be more off.
Just got reminded how well and brutal Miura built up Griffith's heel turn.
Yeah for sure. Probably one of the highlights of the episode. Gonna miss them together.
She ask him not to say anything, yet he did. How much is his word worth? Obviously she felt alone, and did what she though it was best for her.
After defeting Cersei, what was she supposed to do? Hand kinds landing to John?
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I agree with this piece. It has been a disappointing final season.
I agree with this piece. It has been a disappointing final season.
I know a lot of people here don't like this word, but it cannot be overstated.
YIKES
Tyrion and Varys chose to believe in something that was always far fetched and eschewed reality for a fantasy. Jorah and Missandei were Dany's moral compass and much better advisers.
Tyrion's naivety and intrinsic knack of trusting others and giving them the benefit of the doubt is such a major character flaw though. While he is a decent check to Dany, or was, his missteps from a strategic perspective were horribly misinformed and played a part in King's Landing burning to the ground.
The episode had lots of problems but I think it was still the best full episode I've seen in a while. Last episode was hood for the first half and then it fell off a cliff, by comparison this one went in waves so it didn't leave quite the sour taste for its odd points, like Euron.
There were a few things where it felt like they never had any idea what they wanted to do. Like cleganebowl. Felt like they knew they wanted it but the fight didn't really have any meaning and the resolution was just...there. Or Cersei, she didn't seem to make any real plans when every other conflict she had something up her sleeve, and then she runs away and just dies. Or euron...blech.
But despite having issues, still enjoyable and certainly better than the last battle. Just a better overall story as the battle took place.
There were a few things where it felt like they never had any idea what they wanted to do. Like cleganebowl. Felt like they knew they wanted it but the fight didn't really have any meaning and the resolution was just...there. Or Cersei, she didn't seem to make any real plans when every other conflict she had something up her sleeve, and then she runs away and just dies. Or euron...blech.
But despite having issues, still enjoyable and certainly better than the last battle. Just a better overall story as the battle took place.
it is bad writing when you have her not going that route for 8 seasons and then you suddenly bend her to suit your quick story needs without any real time to build up to that leap.
It's as good writing as Anakin's "turn" when he slaughters younglings out of the blue, that's not good writing by any stretch, far from it.
Welp, one thing is for sure, no one is going to mess with somebody that has a grown ass dragon ever again.
Now of course we all know that Dany will die in the next episode, but if they would have the guts to actually let her win in that way that would actually be unexpected and kind of cool. Basically the only way they could end this that i wouldn't hate. Let Dany begin her reign of terror and the Starks run back to Winterfell.
Now of course we all know that Dany will die in the next episode, but if they would have the guts to actually let her win in that way that would actually be unexpected and kind of cool. Basically the only way they could end this that i wouldn't hate. Let Dany begin her reign of terror and the Starks run back to Winterfell.
I'm gonna start a rewatch of the Wire after this is over.
I meaaan Dany's gonna do the same shit in the books ya know? It'll just be better presented and not happen over the book equivalent of 3 episodes. Youd probably end up hating "true Dany" even more lol.
At this point we just have to accept the shoehorned fact that Targs can go mental. I pray the books, if ever finished, properly spends time developing this, because its clear we can at least count on GRMM doing a build up justice over what they did with 6 episodes.
Reduced length seasons really hurt it. Even in my head right now i can picture how they could have set this up more meaningfully with extra scenes and setup. Anyone could. Varys' betrayal should have been its own episode. Missandei's death should have had an episode to be absorbed before the battle. Thirteen episodes is so damn arbitrary when it is clear the show still needed (at least) twenty.
I love this universe a lot and am pleased the ending is hewing closely to my expectations, but the whole thing feels spectacularly unearned. Also yes the spectacle was amazing on the first watch.
I love this universe a lot and am pleased the ending is hewing closely to my expectations, but the whole thing feels spectacularly unearned. Also yes the spectacle was amazing on the first watch.
I mean someone basically saying that they're not gonna burn down the city at first but then doing it after they see their trusted adviser and BFF get decapitated, then another adviser plot against them basically leading her to lose her mind lowkey makes sense seeing as mindset can change over time.
Well, if they wanted to execute that in the most pyrrhic victorious way possible, they sure succeeded, Jesus Christ.
Top shelf character assassination spectacle.
Qyburn reaped what he sowed, that was beautiful, but everything else is just sheer train wreck.
Top shelf character assassination spectacle.
Qyburn reaped what he sowed, that was beautiful, but everything else is just sheer train wreck.
Jon killed other Northmen kin and Nights Watch bros... Mad king here we go!
(Playing by the "Dany mad queen was visible from a mile away" logic)
(Playing by the "Dany mad queen was visible from a mile away" logic)
That's kind of where I stand. Like fuckin' A man, what an amazing production. Look at all the money!
I will give you most of that but Jon being weird and Sansa not trusting her absolutely 100% makes sense.
Jon found out he has been banging his aunt. And has been told by everyone around him that she is crazy and dangerous So I think it's pretty acceptable for him to be a bit weird around her.
Dany's dad burned Sansa's grandfather alive and had their uncle strangled. And she had not so long ago been used and abused as a political chess piece by anyone and everyone around her. So her being paranoid and mistrustful of outsiders makes perfect sense to me. Now her being so public about all of that is a separate issue entirely though. I think it's ridiculous that she was that open with her feeling about Dany.
Yeah, I'm honestly expecting the book's ending to share many similarities with the show's ending. Especially since GRRM said he told the showrunners the major points of his ending years ago.
As someone else pointed out, I feel like the show's ending was hinted way back in Dany's vision in Season 2 episode 10.
Dany's vision in the house of the undying: King's Landing is destroyed (by dragons?) The Iron Throne is covered in "snow" . And Dany meets Drogo in the afterlife and says: "Maybe I'm dead and I just don't know it?"
Yeah. The mirrored cuts in the editing of the Hound's fight/Arya's flight scene was a bit ham-fisted, like they were just trying a little too hard to "art it up" (hi shadowfax), but in terms of the character writing and performances I have by far the least gripes about those two.
Good or bad has nothing to do with it, I'm pointing out how goofy is it to point out a character saying they won't do x and then them doing it and trying to use that as proof that it's not telegraphing when it's literally proof of telegraphing.
In isolation the big episodes were solid, this one in particular, it's just like everything else the writing has held it back.
Seeing the city razed could of been a much harder punch if the writing was up to par. Pulling together themes from the books that should of been better established and kept in play these seasons like the grey morality lines and seeing Jon have that Ned style moment where he realizes the ugliness of this world and those he chose to see only the good in. Dany's turn should of been a gut wrenching tragedy or at least a justifiable turn prompted from well established character developments and plot points(like I just don't get why they didn't embrace the internal unrest and political intrigue subplot to better establish Dany's growing disdain for the people of Westeros and a sense of being forced to rule by fear).
It's just that what led up to one of the most visually crazy moments in tv history was totally deflated in a lot of ways because the story leading up to the moment was so poorly executed and characters involved have gone off the rails.
But that's the thing, we didn't see the "change over time". She went from "protect all the innocents" two episodes ago, to "fuck it, burn them all even though they surrendered" too quickly. That is too grand of a character shift to be a "snap" decision.
Quite enjoyed that as an episode in and of itself, that was a spectacle. Qyburn was my favorite death, just tossed aside like garbage.
Wasn't surprised Dany went and made her father proud with her madness. Do I think they did a good job setting it up? Feel like I have to rewatch the series but like I said, I wasn't really surprised. Really the second I saw her face in the beginning of this episode with those crazy eyes I knew shit was going down. But yeah of course I would've wanted more episodes showing her decline after losing all the good influences around her. How does Dany act when she loses all her friends and loved ones to death and betrayal and incompetence(Tyrion)? By doing it all so quickly one after the other in a high stakes situation with no room to breathe they had to go straight to Mad Queen. I'm still baffled at D&Ds decision to cut the episodes when HBO was more than willing to keep going as long as possible.
Jon pulled a damn Ned handling this whole situation, smh. Shit even Ned knew to lie to his family about Jon's birth.
Mountain looking like a Dead Space baby.
Cersei was disappointing to the end, they had nothing for her, like I said in a previous post, Night King 2.0.
Fine with Jamie's arc, the execution is another story I'll have to think on more. Sometimes redemption fully doesn't succeed no matter how close you get, sometimes the addiction is too strong and you relapse. That's Jamie, a fucking drug addict, Cersei overrides everything.
Wasn't surprised Dany went and made her father proud with her madness. Do I think they did a good job setting it up? Feel like I have to rewatch the series but like I said, I wasn't really surprised. Really the second I saw her face in the beginning of this episode with those crazy eyes I knew shit was going down. But yeah of course I would've wanted more episodes showing her decline after losing all the good influences around her. How does Dany act when she loses all her friends and loved ones to death and betrayal and incompetence(Tyrion)? By doing it all so quickly one after the other in a high stakes situation with no room to breathe they had to go straight to Mad Queen. I'm still baffled at D&Ds decision to cut the episodes when HBO was more than willing to keep going as long as possible.
Jon pulled a damn Ned handling this whole situation, smh. Shit even Ned knew to lie to his family about Jon's birth.
Mountain looking like a Dead Space baby.
Cersei was disappointing to the end, they had nothing for her, like I said in a previous post, Night King 2.0.
Fine with Jamie's arc, the execution is another story I'll have to think on more. Sometimes redemption fully doesn't succeed no matter how close you get, sometimes the addiction is too strong and you relapse. That's Jamie, a fucking drug addict, Cersei overrides everything.
I don't have a problem with daenarys going mad. Her family has it in their dna and she just snapped. She's had sparks of it in the past if I remember correctly
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