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Game of Thrones S8 |OT3| Best season evar. (FULL SPOILERS) (See Staff Post)
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I'll be honest, I had kind of a hard time following the thoughts in this Twitter thread given the haphazard way it's put together and the constant GIFs, but to the extent I did understand it: a plethora of posters in this very thread have been consistently stressing that it's not the idea of Mad Queen Daenerys that was, it's the execution that sucked.
Well they maybe aren't entirely the last of the Lannister's, but neither was Daenerys or her brother. I still think it would be a big parallel to draw, as both houses were the leading house in Westeros at the time of their deposition, and in both cases the heirs of each house would escape to Essos.
TIL that sending an assassin after someone just makes you impulsive and it doesn't really mean you hate them xD
https://twitter.com/DSilvermint/status/1125856091261136896
This is exactly what's wrong with the last few seasons.
Whereas in the beginning the characters shaped the story thus making it feel realistic and organic, it is now the other way around. They have made their mind up on the end and where they want the story to finish und therefore the characters need to take actions that sometimes are incredibly dumb and go against everything that they stood for just so that the story goes the way they want. Now the story shapes the characters and not the other way around.
And because of the fact that the endpoint that I assume GRRM gave them doesn't make much sense in the context of the show, the characters need to make incredibly stupid decisions to get to where we are now.
If it was anything like the first few seasons, Tyrion and the others would have advised Dany to take the red keep with her dragons (Because that's really the only thing that made any sense). Dany would've won over the crown easily and we'd be done with the petty human affairs at the end of season 7 und could've devoted the last season to the real fight and really the main thing that the show worked towards since episode 1.
Instead they made up their mind that they wanted to end it with Dany vs. Cersei and mad queen Dany even though getting to that point required ignoring all sense and logic from the characters.
This is exactly what's wrong with the last few seasons.
Whereas in the beginning the characters shaped the story thus making it feel realistic and organic, it is now the other way around. They have made their mind up on the end and where they want the story to finish und therefore the characters need to take actions that sometimes are incredibly dumb and go against everything that they stood for just so that the story goes the way they want. Now the story shapes the characters and not the other way around.
And because of the fact that the endpoint that I assume GRRM gave them doesn't make much sense in the context of the show, the characters need to make incredibly stupid decisions to get to where we are now.
If it was anything like the first few seasons, Tyrion and the others would have advised Dany to take the red keep with her dragons (Because that's really the only thing that made any sense). Dany would've won over the crown easily and we'd be done with the petty human affairs at the end of season 7 und could've devoted the last season to the real fight and really the main thing that the show worked towards since episode 1.
Instead they made up their mind that they wanted to end it with Dany vs. Cersei and mad queen Dany even though getting to that point required ignoring all sense and logic from the characters.
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Nah. She supposed to die. And even if you got on a boat where were you going to go?
To Illyrio's house and start the cycle over again.
*sips wine*
"yOuRe BleEdInG!!!!!111 :("
They could have made his fight more interesting or could have shown how Arya got there from the room they were barricaded in without teleporting behind the NK. The Mountain felt like a bigger final boss than this dude.
I brought her up earlier in either this thread or the previous one and someone replied that D&D told the actress she was already dead.
No one knew about Jon, so Dany and Visarys were indeed the last known Targs (Maester Aemon notwithstanding). Due to Tyrion still being around, the Lannister name and House still exists. He should inherit Casterlyrock now too.
I think the implication was that after she watched her daughter die she would be tortured executed as well. Not that this was obvious by any stretch.
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Holy fuck! King's Landing is actually completely gone. It's literally just ruins now.
It didn't seem like that much damage was done last episode but I guess the fire spread tremendously.
Daenerys gonna rule from Dragonstone then or as Queen of the Ashes?
Can't be spoiling the Mad Queen twist by having a hand support her worst impulses, either.
What episode did you watch where it didnt look like that much damage lol
New promo image.
Holy fuck! King's Landing is actually completely gone. It's literally just ruins now.
It didn't seem like that much damage was done last episode but I guess the fire spread tremendously.
Daenerys gonna rule from Dragonstone then or as Queen of the Ashes?
He does state that he isn't talking about the criticism of the execution and acknowledges it himself that there are issues with the execution.
"And again, I'm not talking about criticism of "well the execution was awful."
Are there issues with Daenerys' descent into destruction and devastation? Undoubtedly. It's rushed, it's hypercondensed. It might flow better if the show had three more episodes, but it doesn't.
Are those criticisms of it unfair? Absolutely not. I'd agree with some criticisms of the pacing and connective tissue in "The Bells."
New promo image.
Holy fuck! King's Landing is actually completely gone. It's literally just ruins now.
It didn't seem like that much damage was done last episode but I guess the fire spread tremendously.
Daenerys gonna rule from Dragonstone then or as Queen of the Ashes?
Lmao. That upgraded explosive Dragon fire sure does wonders.
Also, good lord are there a lot of Unsullied. Might be the most I've ever seen. Must've played some good hide and seek in ep 3.
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magic fire something something melts bricks
New promo image.
Holy fuck! King's Landing is actually completely gone. It's literally just ruins now.
It didn't seem like that much damage was done last episode but I guess the fire spread tremendously.
Daenerys gonna rule from Dragonstone then or as Queen of the Ashes?
It was like an 1/8-1/4 of the city that she mowed down by the end.
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I just can't imagine Dany sitting there on her Dragon and going "so uh, Imma keep murdering them innocents for another 3 hours! It's sort of fun."
So basically these people agree with the criticisms but still try to label people who didn't like the episode overall as people who would never be ok with it when that's a small minority of dany avatar twitter users
For how important she was for a while, I'm surprised that I just kind of forgot she existed. Makes sense since she didn't have anyone left really to save her but it's also odd when characters with important roles just kind of fade away.
It was hilariously bad.
Grey Worm, he learned from the best.
The size of armies has been super inconsistent in the whole show. There's always a lot more of them when they're just standing around, and when it's battle there's always a whole lot less.
"Only half of the unsullied are left"
New promo image.
Holy fuck! King's Landing is actually completely gone. It's literally just ruins now.
It didn't seem like that much damage was done last episode but I guess the fire spread tremendously.
Daenerys gonna rule from Dragonstone then or as Queen of the Ashes?
New promo image.
Holy fuck! King's Landing is actually completely gone. It's literally just ruins now.
It didn't seem like that much damage was done last episode but I guess the fire spread tremendously.
Daenerys gonna rule from Dragonstone then or as Queen of the Ashes?
Does she regrow them in a laboratory or something? Holy shit they are insane. Where were all these Unsullied in the last 15 minutes of episode 3?
Edit: I think those behind them are Dothraki. Seriously fuck off 😆
The Golden Company, twenty thousand strong! Battle starts, we see a hundred fifty standing at the ready, who then get blown up in four seconds.
So the queen of dorne I assume is dead...what the fuck happened to Yara? Wasnt she enslaved there too?
Why are there so many unsullied when Dany only brought like 20 to negotiate with Cersei
Why are there so many unsullied when Dany only brought like 20 to negotiate with Cersei
New promo image.
Holy fuck! King's Landing is actually completely gone. It's literal
It didn't seem like that much damage was done last episode but I guess the fire spread tremendously.
Daenerys gonna rule from Dragonstone then or as Queen of the Ashes?
Her whole army is pretty much intact. Even has a few dothraki left lol
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I didn't count, how many did she had and how many does she have now?
I agree its silly but army sizes on the show have always been off.
This season really wanted the shock of her entire army getting wiped out without having to deal with the writing challenges that presents.
New promo image.
Holy fuck! King's Landing is actually completely gone. It's literally just ruins now.
It didn't seem like that much damage was done last episode but I guess the fire spread tremendously.
Daenerys gonna rule from Dragonstone then or as Queen of the Ashes?
Awww yeah. I'm back on Team Daenerys.
On a related note I really like this scene from season 7
The music is on point and it's just great to see such a long awaited moment happen. After so long and so much she has finally returned to her birthplace. I hope we get some sort of discordant "mad" version of the theme.
Theon helped her escape the ship in like the first episode and then she went to retake the iron islands in case the white walkers were too strong. Then he fast traveled to Winterfell.
Cersei's torture of choice for her was to watch her daughter's body rot and fall apart forever. As in, she'd be kept alive and probably even force-fed and the like.
Quite disturbing, I might say but it's a good thing Cersei's death was portrayed in a tragic manner, lol.
At another gate would be there excuse ;)
Didn't they say the battle was holding them off from three directions?
How are there still so many Unsullied lol
New promo image.
Holy fuck! King's Landing is actually completely gone. It's literally just ruins now.
It didn't seem like that much damage was done last episode but I guess the fire spread tremendously.
Daenerys gonna rule from Dragonstone then or as Queen of the Ashes?
Yep
Which is even funnier when you realize she didnt need anyone else to help her take King's Landing
Now that Euron is dead, Bran is now my least favorite character
