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Game of Thrones S8 |OT3| Best season evar. (FULL SPOILERS) (See Staff Post)
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I've seen a lot of people say this and with how the show this season(speculation spoiler)
treated kingdoms that arent Kings Landing or Winterfell, it would make sense. Nobody seems to give a shit about each other anymore and King's Landing is in ashes
My point is that some prefer for the NK to be the endgame, but given the anti-climatic way he was going to go out, where he'd still remain as a mute one-dimensional ice zombie, I don't see how it would've been this much better thing than what we're getting now. Only difference IMO is that leaving Cersei/Dany for last could've actually worked with much better execution, but I frankly can't say the same for the NK. Writing was on the wall for that subplot.
Of course there's ways to make the fight itself better for people, but that's another matter.
I'm almost positive they will attempt some sort of Sopranos-esque stylish ending that will piss people off
I see, well then you have to ask them why they thought it was worth sharing. I read it yesterday and found it a good read as it touched upon the discussion around similar media more generally too and not just episode 8.5. And it also brought up interesting points/views about the episode/entire show I hadn't thought myself. I didn't think "that'll show them who didn't like the episode, we gottem!" People like and dislike different things in the episode anyway and for different reasons.
I don't think sharing that Twitter thread is any different than sharing criticism of the episode from outside this site, which has happened too.
It's not based on where someone is born because the books have a bunch that don't follow that convention. The last name is whatever the parents want it to be.
I didn't know there were only 6 episodes in S8 until a moment ago.
Really curious how they are going to give an end to that mess in 805.
Really curious how they are going to give an end to that mess in 805.
Something else that got a chuckle out of me. If Drogon's fire breath had that much concussive force behind it, shouldn't mowing the zombies with dragon fire have caused huge swaths of trenches to form? His fire breath was blowing up brick buildings, so I would imagine that where it hit on the ground would be cratered right? Maybe he has power level slider 🤔
In hindsight, it's pure bullshit how inconsequential the dragons were in the Episode 3.
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Unless Dany was burning her own people they should have had minimal casualties.
The gate kerploding out over the Golden Company was a bit much but knowing that dragon fire melts stone and brick I'm not too bothered about that. At least as far as the episode goes that's super far down the list of things I'm incredulous over.
Yeah but saying something that betrays what they put on screen the episode before isn't very good.
They did, but in 8x03 they showed them getting mostly wiped out. Take the imagery of the last bits of episode 3 and suddenly add half of Dan's forces to it. Would look completely different right? The zombies were practically hugging some of these characters by the end.
It's supposed to be from where you were born, but the books have small inconsistencies about that (See Jon Snow and Brynden Rivers).
Maybe they should call them the 8 kingdoms now, unless the wildlings north of the wall are just northerners now. Also, maybe send some people up to see what's up in the far north now that there's no more undead threat or magical wall to stop you. In a post wall world, Westeros needs to work some things out after they kill this hysterical woman and put someone with a cock in charge.
It's blowing up buildings because the temperature of the dragonflame is so hot it superheats the brick and causes it to explode. So it's not like the flame is propelling with a high kinetic energy, it just has very high thermal energy.
That's what is most disappointing for me. I'm more bothered that there is no time left to deal with the aftermath properly, than the build up for it. Since for me Dany is right now more interesting character than she's ever been before. And also because Clarke has been really good imo, even though I've earlier disliked her work. I'd love to have more episodes, especially if it also ment the episodes would be longer as they now have been. It's such a bummer the show had to end, even though stretching shows don't usually lead to best results (neither does rushing). But GOT was already way beyond the point of ending at the top, so why not continue. I'd rather watch more D&D Game of Thrones than anything new Star Wars at this point.
Exactly :(
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Oh it's not about what happened in KL, but more about what didn't happen in Winterfell. If Dragon's fire breath is that strong, than it should have been making massive trenches (which would have been a strategic element) into the ground when Jon and Dany were strafing about. Similar to what it was doing to the ice in beyond the wall.
I find it funny that after almost 10 years, there still haven't been a ruler who I rooted for as much as in this moment:
They probably are just northern non citizens like the hill tribes of the Vale. But who's to say that the other kingdoms are still all going to be around... Who will run Highgarden (probably not Bronn), and the Iron Islands were promised independence iirc when Yara offered Dany her fleet.
I think the problem was more that they were underutilized.
But the other guy is right, the concussive dragon breath was hot garbage.
at this point i think the most likely ending is that
the seven kingdoms are broken up into smaller autonomous states
So what is the deal with Bronn, what the hell is he gonna do?
Tyrion's lucky if he doesn't get executed and even then why the fuck would Dany give him anything? He shot at Drogon.
Bronn might as well just stay north and start wheeling around Bran at this rate.
Tyrion's lucky if he doesn't get executed and even then why the fuck would Dany give him anything? He shot at Drogon.
Bronn might as well just stay north and start wheeling around Bran at this rate.
Seemed almost the same to me. Could also be the temperature in the north. They said the dragons weren't doing so well up there.
And Viserion's fire did blow up a tower in WInterfell.
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Bronn has so much frigging plot armor and marketing team shields . . .
Does outdoor temperature affect fire?
That would make zero sense, especially in the books. That's how things used to be and it wasn't great. As much as the other Lords hate it, the Targaryen dynasty brought a lasting peace to Westeros. Yes, there were still wars. But, the wars were less than when the Kingdoms were divided. Beforehand, the Kingdoms were constantly at war with each other. There was almost never a time when one kingdom wasn't at war with another. To revert back to such chaos does not seem like something the books are heading towards.
In the books:
He can warg any living thing including human beings. He can even warg groups of living things like ravens.
If he dies, he can take over someone's body and live as that animal or person as a second life.
An extended lifespan.
Use the weirwoods to go back in time and see things or see anything anywhere in the present through the trees although the Three Eyed Crow says in time he'll be able to see beyond the trees themselves.
He's potentially able to take free will away. There's a point in the books where he reaches out to Hodor and tells him to be quiet after he's running around screaming. He accidentally wargs into him at that moment but then leaves him just as quickly and Hodor stays quiet unable to talk. So he might have the equivalent of the One Ring.
He'll be a god-like being in the books too though:
The weirwoods are the old gods and Bloodraven and Bran are hooked into them.
If you read GRRM's other stories, humans becoming gods (not in the divine sense) are a subject that's fascinated with along with memory, identity, psychics, moral flexibility and hiveminds.
It affects the source of that fire in this case :p
Not to mention the dragons weren't being properly fed.
Didn't Dany start feeding random noblemen to her dragon in series 5 because some of then, might... might have been conspiring against her.
To ne honest I think she was always a bit fucked up and often chose the most aggressive action before thinking it through, the attempt to abolish slavery by crucifying masters turned into botched mess, that she had to create 1 year slave contracts, and bring back fighting pits. And this temper escaleted when her best friends and two of her children' were killed, one of her advisors didn't trust her and when she got pummeled trying to do the honorable ways that Tyrion had suggested. I think next episode Dany might have a realisation moment, that the throne wasn't worth the fear she was trying to install.
To ne honest I think she was always a bit fucked up and often chose the most aggressive action before thinking it through, the attempt to abolish slavery by crucifying masters turned into botched mess, that she had to create 1 year slave contracts, and bring back fighting pits. And this temper escaleted when her best friends and two of her children' were killed, one of her advisors didn't trust her and when she got pummeled trying to do the honorable ways that Tyrion had suggested. I think next episode Dany might have a realisation moment, that the throne wasn't worth the fear she was trying to install.
Even Ned knew to lie to his family about that, all that needs to be said.
It's ambiguous. There's no hard and fast rules about it. If you're born in the North but raised in Dorne by your Dornish father, then you could be called Heshinsi Sand rather than Heshinsi Snow.
Oberyn's bastard daughters are called Sand despite them not all being born in Dorne.
Yeah, this was the exact conversation I had with my brother lol.
Makes sense for his character. Even if he only told Arya, Sansa would probably hear about it eventually and be even more pissed.
Sansa trying to force Jon to be king afterwards by leaking it was mad dumb.
All I know is it was cheap as hell to not show how they reacted.
In a better show it might have been Qyburn sending Bronn without the Queen even knowing.
Oh wait, that might have even been this show 5 seasons ago.
I think its more an issue of them not accurately showing the size of the armies in previous episodes rather than the actual numbers she has left.
Which makes sense since once he took the Black he would have given up his claim by default.