The weird thing is she doesn't even go into the genocide, just says that Dany flies over there to kill the Cersei, which would've been more than fine and justified.
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Game of Thrones S8 |OT3| Best season evar. (FULL SPOILERS) (See Staff Post)
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The weird thing is she doesn't even go into the genocide, just says that Dany flies over there to kill the Cersei, which would've been more than fine and justified.
Right?? I'm afraid they would have found some way to ruin him though. Pretty outlandish character to try to put on the screen.
Like it was said before they downvoted the episode way before it even aired. Bots are also possible to be mass downvoting on those sides.
I actually liked everything that happened with the dragon (in terms of how it was utilized as a weapon). Dany was caught off guard and surprise attacked (which in itself was pretty dumb). But this time she had a plan by flying straight down from the clouds and keeping low enough as to not alert everyone immediately of her presence. It was shot and executed excellently as an action setpiece and strategic attack IMO. What the fuck can you do when you can't aim slow ass moving crossbows against a fire breathing dragon.
Or Rhaegal got surprised attacked to the heart and neck while the 2 dragons are play flying with her mother?
I agree that I expected it to be "I'm gonna go get Cersei" and then semi-inadvertent collateral damage... spending 5 minutes scouring the streets for no apparent reason was definitely undersold, as was the Northern army just like, murdering random innocent civilians. (Aren't they conscripts and therefore mostly civilians? Do they just really hate Southerners? Or is it just like "soliders gonna soldier"?)
Also definitely agree about the tonal whiplash--probably always a problem with so many writers and directors but this is a far cry from "Keep your Queen warm"
I'm sure KL civilians are gratefulSansa outplayed everyone, she needs more credit.
She agreed to help Jon and the North after seeing the threat, and THEN he bent the knee. She decided to help once she saw the threat was real. He caught feels and bent the knee anyway. Then he couldn't lie about it when they all went to meet Cersei. Jon's poor decisions fucked up her entire life's work. His "aw shucks, I don't even want a crown, guys." while he ruins everything isn't very endearing to me.
It could be tragic if it wasn't so rushed and silly. "No, my sisters that hate you wouldn't use this information against you. Everyone knowing about this wouldn't tear us apart and lead to your death. C'mon"
what a dumb fucking episode. hated pretty much all of it, can't believe how sloppy the show has gotten and how amateur hour everything feels. the writers are doing a super shitty job and ignoring so much character development. thank god there's only one episode left. this show is gonna be like a bunch of other shows, like lost, where after it's done people are pretty much gonna pretend it never happened, just a 10 year long waste of time that completely jumped the shark in later seasons and made it obvious the show runners had no fucking idea what they were doing once they ran out of source material.
OP
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They changed the Jaime and Tyrion relationship in the show and that's a major plot point in the books so.... yeah Jaime is killing her if he survives lady stoneheart (O.O);
LOL what happened here.uhhhhhhhh I didn't post this in this thread....
where am I?!
If Westeros ends up ruled by the just Jon Snow, and the unstable Targaryen family is finally wiped out, that could be a positive.
Let's be fair here. 95% of her nuking King's Landing was CGI. All she had to do was a couple close-up scenes where she looks distraught over everyone betraying her.
Everything else was probably done on a computer in some HBO basement office. Kind of hard to feel that part of a genocidal meltdown when you're not actually acting anything out in person.
Definitely Japanese.
We could get Ice Spiders and Elephants. A decent Dorne plot and Jaime's real ending. Throw dollars at some of the best Anime artists, because so many of them see their talent limited by production bullshit. That's the solution.
Even more sense would have been to leave the scorpions a relative surprise and have rhaegal go down during this siege. Like sure have the scene with qyburn showing Cersei the scopion but then we don't see them in use until KL seige. It was super dumb how they were all mounted up there on the wall during the parlay scene too. Like we just saw them annihilate an entire fleet of ships and easily take out a dragon, and they are standing within range of a ruthless cersei.
A surprise ballista barrage out of nowhere during the KL seige would have made a lot more sense to bring down rhaegal and it wouldn't have made the ballistas seem shockingly overpowered and confusing like we got with e04. Then Dany snapping at least makes slightly more sense.
So I've made my points clear about Dany but I haven't really talked about the rest... which was also pretty bad IMO.
- Jaime's arc. Yeah, lots has been said about this. No valonqar, OK, whatever. The showrunners ignoring the lore is nothing new. But apparently they decided on this death because "they came in the world together and must die together" which is pretty trite. Jaime has had about zero redemption arc going on. It's possible that in the books, something happens that makes him "relapse" and fall back into Cersei's arms, but I'd honestly be shocked if that did happen, considering he burns Cersei's letter during her very lowest point in her life and ignores all her pleas for help. The showrunners just completely and utterly ignored this aspect of Jaime's story, and that really sucks.
- Drogon suddenly being buffed and/or Euron and the scorpions suddenly being nerfed. Memes aside, it's true that the discrepancy is completely bonkers. The scorpions killed Rhaegal and shredded those ships like it was nothing, and forced Dany to retreat. But upon her return, she just... completely and utterly nukes them effortlessly, without ever a threat to her or her dragon. Her army hardly needed to do even anything. The Golden Company was completely useless. lol?
- Similarly, Tyrion continues to be a useless moron. He has been utterly insufferable lately. What was the last smart or clever thing he did since he became Dany's advisor?
- What was Arya even doing beyond being useless? I get that her killing Cersei would have been "OP" and silly, and I'm generally OK with her saying "k fuck this" after the dragonfire napalm started wrecking everything, but there was so much focus on her, and that horse at the end was just... bizarre.
- Cleganebowl... meh, OK. Just reeked of fanservice. I wish there had been some twist or... I don't know, something beyond just a standard fight resulting in a double KO. It felt trite and predictable and I didn't really care. :( I must say, I predicted that the internet would rage more at Cleganebowl being disappointing than they would at anything else, and I was certainly completely wrong on that. LOL.
Predictions on the next episode (note that I've avoided leaks and I have a very poor track record so far, lol):
- Jaime's arc. Yeah, lots has been said about this. No valonqar, OK, whatever. The showrunners ignoring the lore is nothing new. But apparently they decided on this death because "they came in the world together and must die together" which is pretty trite. Jaime has had about zero redemption arc going on. It's possible that in the books, something happens that makes him "relapse" and fall back into Cersei's arms, but I'd honestly be shocked if that did happen, considering he burns Cersei's letter during her very lowest point in her life and ignores all her pleas for help. The showrunners just completely and utterly ignored this aspect of Jaime's story, and that really sucks.
- Drogon suddenly being buffed and/or Euron and the scorpions suddenly being nerfed. Memes aside, it's true that the discrepancy is completely bonkers. The scorpions killed Rhaegal and shredded those ships like it was nothing, and forced Dany to retreat. But upon her return, she just... completely and utterly nukes them effortlessly, without ever a threat to her or her dragon. Her army hardly needed to do even anything. The Golden Company was completely useless. lol?
- Similarly, Tyrion continues to be a useless moron. He has been utterly insufferable lately. What was the last smart or clever thing he did since he became Dany's advisor?
- What was Arya even doing beyond being useless? I get that her killing Cersei would have been "OP" and silly, and I'm generally OK with her saying "k fuck this" after the dragonfire napalm started wrecking everything, but there was so much focus on her, and that horse at the end was just... bizarre.
- Cleganebowl... meh, OK. Just reeked of fanservice. I wish there had been some twist or... I don't know, something beyond just a standard fight resulting in a double KO. It felt trite and predictable and I didn't really care. :( I must say, I predicted that the internet would rage more at Cleganebowl being disappointing than they would at anything else, and I was certainly completely wrong on that. LOL.
Predictions on the next episode (note that I've avoided leaks and I have a very poor track record so far, lol):
- Dany executes Tyrion for treason
- Jon gets mad and kills Dany. In which case, I don't know who gets the throne, because Jon getting it seems too... predictable?
- Or perhaps, in some ultimate twist, Dany actually wins and rules as Queen of Ashes, but is so feared and hated for what she did that that it plants the seeds for a future rebellion in decades to come, leaving an "open" ending.
Thing is, I don't know how, even if Jon kills Dany, they could get rid of Drogon. Drogon would surely be pissed off at losing his mother, and there's no scorpion left to kill it. Would Jon tame Drogon somehow? Would Drogon fly off and fuck off somewhere? Dany just seems way too OP right now.
As for the North... I don't even know anymore. Dany would want to subjugate them but they want nothing to do with her and will likely rally behind Sansa. Would Dany fly to Winterfell and burn it down too? >.>
- Jon gets mad and kills Dany. In which case, I don't know who gets the throne, because Jon getting it seems too... predictable?
- Or perhaps, in some ultimate twist, Dany actually wins and rules as Queen of Ashes, but is so feared and hated for what she did that that it plants the seeds for a future rebellion in decades to come, leaving an "open" ending.
Thing is, I don't know how, even if Jon kills Dany, they could get rid of Drogon. Drogon would surely be pissed off at losing his mother, and there's no scorpion left to kill it. Would Jon tame Drogon somehow? Would Drogon fly off and fuck off somewhere? Dany just seems way too OP right now.
As for the North... I don't even know anymore. Dany would want to subjugate them but they want nothing to do with her and will likely rally behind Sansa. Would Dany fly to Winterfell and burn it down too? >.>
Sansa outplayed everyone, she needs more credit.
Yeah, no. The animosity she showed towards Dany was completely unfounded at the time. Dany was probably the sole reason they even stood a chance against the NK. She lost all her friends and two dragons because she decided to help the north. All sansa did was shit on her and scheme behind the scenes. The north propped themselves up on the corpses of Danys friends.
No wonder she snapped.
Discussions about whether these actions are from the author's notes about what was going to happen are actually irrelevant: GRRM likes doing the unexpected and surprising people, and the events in this episode are in the book *after* the one he is currently writing. It would be very much his style to *change* certain outcomes to be different from what was in the show. He has already said that the show and the books are different things altogether, not necessarily telling the same story.
And absolutely no one asked for Jaime v Euron, not to mention how ridiculous it was he crawls out the blackwater right there, alone, for a throw down lol.
A better story would have been Cersei turning out to be the 'mad queen' when they were all (for no reason!) expecting Dany to be it.
Cersei is losing so she just tries to blow up the whole city and in the end its Dany who saves them somehow, at the cost of her revenge to make it even more obvious she is actually good.
Makes way more sense that Cersei is the crazy one after all these seasons of her constantly proving it.
But nar let's just make all the characters turn on Dany and cause her to go nuts instead!
>_>
Cersei is losing so she just tries to blow up the whole city and in the end its Dany who saves them somehow, at the cost of her revenge to make it even more obvious she is actually good.
Makes way more sense that Cersei is the crazy one after all these seasons of her constantly proving it.
But nar let's just make all the characters turn on Dany and cause her to go nuts instead!
>_>
"Critics don't matter and everyone else who hates it is a bot"
Lmao
Keep digging
Makes it even more sad that all this talent and effort and time went to waste because d and d are crappy writers.
She had a plan she just vastly underestimated her enemy despite multiple people who had seen it first hand telling her otherwise.
To me they did a decent job building up to a Tyrant Queen Dany. They did a terrible job building Dany's character into Batshit Insane Dany. That was so unearned
Yes. She learned that she needs to fly straight down and hug the ground, and it worked brilliantly
As much as it pained me to see her in crazy mode, she really did do an amazing job. The unhinged look in her eyes was chilling.
It sounds like you don't care about the opinions of anyone who you don't agree with
I lold when Kit slipped and said:"...Jon and
dany: "hey northerners i've come to save your asses"
sansa: "thanks i hate u"
Absolute trash lmao
Smartest person i've ever known lmao
Get the fuck outta here d&d
I posted in the Rage 2 REVIEW thread and someone quoted me here... I am beyond confused lol