She chained her children up.She even locked her dragons in a cave, without advisement, after 1 innocent girl was burned to death.
She chained her children up.She even locked her dragons in a cave, without advisement, after 1 innocent girl was burned to death.
Since they all seem to be on horse back they're probably dorthraki.
Arent most rulers throughout history usurpers? Doesnt mean you arent the legit ruler if you pull off a coup.
True, but unfortunately we already saw something similar with Tyrion.Big dick calculated move by Dany would be to have Grey Worm kill Jon in the middle of the chaos of the battle and blame the Lannisters for it.
Yeah the writing leaves a lot to be desired on how she got to this point, in part because her acts of brutality before have always had an out or caveat we can use to justify it. She is a hero in Essos but once she sailed for Westeros she couldn't really be called well-meaning anymore. She says she wants to break the wheel and free the people, but IMO that wasn't something we were supposed to take at face value.
Calling a character stupid is imo the worst, laziest piece of criticism because 9 times out of 10 when people say this character is stupid, they're projecting their own hindsight + third-person omniscience onto a character who would naturally have neither. But having said that, Jon is just that stupid. He's honorable to the point of idiocy. He shouldn't have told Sansa, he shouldn't have told Dany in the first place, he shouldn't have told Cersei he pledged himself to Dany, and so on and so on. Jon is just a bad leader
Her "connection" to Westeros was an ill-placed level of entitlement. It's probably my reading of the books colouring my view of this, but Essos itself was just brutality we could justify that she'd use as a stepping stone to take Westeros.Why not? She was obviously rather sincere about freeing the people of Essos and she arguably had less connection to them than she did with the commonfolk of Westeros?
Not here, you are right, but the generally most people around wanted her and believed she is the rightful heir.IIRC I don't think I've read a post/many posts where anyone/anyone seriously wants Dany to be queen.
Ah yeah, you're right. Varys had it out for them back then.You think I'm talking about just him bringing Dorne and the Reach on board right? Wrong lol. Go back further. No assassination attempt on her, high chance Visarys is still crying in a hut somewhere wondering when Drogo will keep his end of the promise.
Even better...they are the Dothraki. Turns out we didn't see them all die. They just dropped their flaming weapons and booked it to the hills.
Muh birthrightHer "connection" to Westeros was an ill-placed level of entitlement.
Yep, the NK did no damage basically. What a mess of a final seasonI truly truly hate that there are so many Unsullied still left. The framing of the battle against the NK and the aftermath and consequences of it going forward is a travesty of writing.
Even better...they are the Dothraki. Turns out we didn't see them all die. They just dropped their flaming weapons and booked it to the hills.
Lmao that manny Dothraki lived?!? Unbuhfuckinglievable!!!Since they all seem to be on horse back they're probably dorthraki.
Oh her.Mirri Maz Duur, fortune teller or something from earlier seasons.
Dothraki cowards that ran away during the battle at Winterfell.
She wouldn't have brought thousands of her people to possibly die on a foreign shore. Once she had set up her capital city in Essos she was set for life, but she wanted even more than that. She has spent most of her life in Essos, she knows it better than Westeros by a long mile.Why not? She was obviously rather sincere about freeing the people of Essos and she arguably had less connection to them than she did with the commonfolk of Westeros?
She got fucking paid. I think a million an episode lulAll of this wouldn't have happened, if the didn't "kill off" the young griff. The last Season would have made a lot more sense. But no, they decided to focus all on Cersei.
Haha, vaguely remember that now that you mentioned it. Tried to google it too, but all I found was story by Harrington almost losing his balls during filming. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kit-harington-balls-testicle_n_5cb7495fe4b0c53a1705b7e2?guccounter=1Just wait for that scene I think it was in season 5 where there's a close up of some random dude's balls for no goddamn reason.
I don't blame him really, the amount of work and effort the cast and crew put into this is mind blowing, so I get where he's coming from.Haha, vaguely remember that now that you mentioned it. Tried to google it too, but all I found was story by Harrington almost losing his balls during filming. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kit-harington-balls-testicle_n_5cb7495fe4b0c53a1705b7e2?guccounter=1
Also found this interesting in the same article, as Harrington is part of that youtube video that keeps being reposted about the actors hating the final season like it was Brie Larson. The article is from last april.
Harington took a ballsy stand against anyone who had a problem with the show's latest episode during an interview with Esquire published Monday.
"I think no matter what anyone thinks about this season — and I don't mean to sound mean about critics here — but whatever critic spends half an hour writing about this season and makes their [negative] judgment on it, in my head they can go fuck themselves," he said, sounding testy.
The actor added that he "doesn't give a fuck" about what people think about the show's last few episodes because "I know how much work was put into this."
She wouldn't have brought thousands of her people to possibly die on a foreign shore. Once she had set up her capital city in Essos she was set for life, but she wanted even more than that. She has spent most of her life in Essos, she knows it better than Westeros by a long mile.
Big dick calculated move by Dany would be to have Grey Worm kill Jon in the middle of the chaos of the battle and blame the Lannisters for it.
1 million to look from a window and have a smug face used in season 1.
To drink whine and look out of the window. Million Dollar acting there.
Haha, vaguely remember that now that you mentioned it. Tried to google it too, but all I found was story by Harrington almost losing his balls during filming. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kit-harington-balls-testicle_n_5cb7495fe4b0c53a1705b7e2?guccounter=1
Also found this interesting in the same article, as Harrington is part of that youtube video that keeps being reposted about the actors hating the final season like it was Brie Larson. The article is from last april, after the premiere and mixed reactions.
Harington took a ballsy stand against anyone who had a problem with the show's latest episode during an interview with Esquire published Monday.
"I think no matter what anyone thinks about this season — and I don't mean to sound mean about critics here — but whatever critic spends half an hour writing about this season and makes their [negative] judgment on it, in my head they can go fuck themselves," he said, sounding testy.
The actor added that he "doesn't give a fuck" about what people think about the show's last few episodes because "I know how much work was put into this."
Edit: His reaction to the first episode script
And the actor admitted that he, too, was critical when he first saw the script for the pilot episode back in 2009.
"I remember thinking, What is this crock of shit? I don't understand this. I'm going to have to read this again," Harington recalled. "And I read it again. And I'm like, I still don't get this shit at all. I think it's kind of weird, but it's HBO and alright, let's do it. I would love to get this. And I think that's what people feel when they start watching it. Or when they hear about it. Like, "No. Fantasy—weird."
He added: "But you watch it, you invest in it, and you go, "Okay, I'll buy into this world. Fine. I'm in."
I don't blame him really, the amount of work and effort the cast and crew put into this is mind blowing, so I get where he's coming from.
Don't necessarily agree with it though. But it does throw a wrench at those thinking Kit hates this season lol.
That's true, but she doesn't know Westeros regardless. It existed as an idea in her head.She grew up in the Free Cities, which were very different to those places she later went to liberate.
Yep, I guess a lot of them feel awkward and conflicted. Which I understand, I would be as well.Kit does mention in the behind the scenes that he was pissed at first when he found out Maisie killed the NK
Meaning he was pissed at the table read since that was the first time he saw what the scripts had. Must've been awkward.
he thought he was PTWP/AA lolKit does mention in the behind the scenes that he was pissed at first when he found out Maisie killed the NK
Meaning he was pissed at the table read since that was the first time he saw what the scripts had. Must've been awkward.
No.That Tyrion video reminded me; has he done anything useful or intelligent since becoming Dany's Hand?
Haha, I looked that clip up. I'd want to be the one killing Night King too if I was in the show, but I don't have the acting talent or looks for being at it. Emilia Clarke seemed like she was surprised too, also thought it could have been her or Jon. But also said that everyone was whooping and cheering at Maisie at the read. It's indeed bit awkard if Harington made a scene about it, considering how much pressure Williams already felt being a small girl killing the big baddie instead than the heroic man many people expect. Even her boyfriend said it should had been Jon instead (I find that bit dickish from the boyfriend). Though Harington seemed to come around to it "eventually Although Harington, like Williams, also thought his character would be the one to kill the Night King, he actually liked the twist as well. "It gives Arya's training a purpose to have an end goal," Harington told E.W. "It's much better how she does it the way she does it. . . . There's also something about it not being the person you expect. The young lady sticks it to the man."Kit does mention in the behind the scenes that he was pissed at first when he found out Maisie killed the NK
Meaning he was pissed at the table read since that was the first time he saw what the scripts had. Must've been awkward.
I wonder if we can get a clip of every big character's actor throwing shade
All of this wouldn't have happened, if the didn't "kill off" the young griff. The last Season would have made a lot more sense. But no, they decided to focus all on Cersei.
He fought for his character, good stuff. This is a really candid and honest reaction, haven't seen any like this besides those snippets of the premiere that are shared everywhere.
To drink whine and look out of the window. Million Dollar acting there.
That's not really an issue, an actor is required to do their job, just because they have views on the character doesn't mean the screenwriter or director should listen to them. In this case, he's absolutely right as he's literally back by the source material. But, they aren't monsters for not listening to him. Mark Hamill had some stupid ass ideas for Luke in ROTJ and Lucas listened and nodded but then went, "nah, we're no doing that."
That only works if they take a season that expands the gap in between defeating the Night King and Dany/Jon marching on King's Landing. The reason he leaves Brienne in the middle of the night is because if he waits any longer Cersei will be dead by the time he gets there anyway.Lmao, absolutely how I feel about how they treated Jamie's character. I wouldn't even be mad about how Jamie died, but they needed another arch of Jamie coming to terms with his inability to live a life without Cersai instead of him just suddenly leaving Brienne in the middle of the night.
I forget where, but I was reading an article somewhere yesterday that was framing some quotes from how Conleth Hill hated the last few seasons, hated that Varys was killed, etc. And then I go read the original interview and he says repeatedly he likes where it all ends up and how Varys goes out, but still felt personally bad about being killed off and wished Varys had been a bigger role in the last couple seasons though understands that he's not one of the main characters. Too many people are trying to make mountains out of molehills with their "see! the actors hate it too!!" takes just to validate their own feelings about S8, 7, etc.I really think people are reading too much into these behind the scenes/interview anecdotes. Some of it is just goofy stuff actors say about their roles, especially when they're not allowed to talk about them.
One interesting thing though is in that interview with Nik posted a few posts up, he says he had these issues with things not making sense since season 4. <thinking emoji>
Yeah people really do have rather exaggerated reactions to these things. It's hardly throwing shade or anything to pitch your own ideas and vision to directors, writers or showrunners. Kinski and Herzog regularly had fist fights and literally threatened to kill each other, that's alarming. What Coster-Waldau is describing there is rather ordinary. And I'm interested to hear about it, but people take it to ridiculousness.That's not really an issue, an actor is required to do their job, just because they have views on the character doesn't mean the screenwriter or director should listen to them. In this case, he's absolutely right as he's literally back by the source material. But, they aren't monsters for not listening to him. Mark Hamill had some stupid ass ideas for Luke in ROTJ and Lucas listened and nodded but then went, "nah, we're no doing that."
Ooooof.
No.
And don't forget that Dany's reactions to Tyrion's failures are supposed to be the show creators' way of showing that she was turning evil before S8E4
in addition to being a great actress, lena headey is also a great troll
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