With multiple Xbox models in one gen, and customer choices with game pass and xcloud, the author makes a good case imo. What do you think ERA?
Full article at GameCentral
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GameCentral (reader submission): Why Xbox Series X having no exclusives is genius
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With multiple Xbox models in one gen, and customer choices with game pass and xcloud, the author makes a good case imo. What do you think ERA?
Full article at GameCentral
I get where they're going with that. I long thought they'd move to an OS based sales model where the hardware was fine as long as it supported the operating system required.
Really? You read this in under one minute and that's your whole contribution?
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I can't change the title. Maybe a mod can. If they don't mind doing it
Whether you disagree or agree with the topic of the thread, you could have at least given some sort of opinion whether it was one sentence or one paragraph, not drive by post "lol" and add nothing of value to the discussion. I literally clicked on the thread and your post was the only response for at least a minute or two, come on man.
I understand that. What I don't understand is why you posted a 4 day old article without understanding who exactly the author is which is explicitly stated right away... in the first two words.
I agree with the idea, but I don't agree that Microsoft has a game on the level of a Zelda to really leverage it. Halo ain't it, chieftess.
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Because i posted before and no one had a problem with it. You can always report it for a title change. It happened before.
From my understanding it's more that consoles used to be a vehicle to the first party experiences and now Microsoft is using gamepass as the vehicle instead. You don't need the newest console to experience the gamepass vehicle so Microsoft doesn't need to be selling the series x as hard or with gimmicks. They just need to make a good console
But honestly barring a couple of anomolies most of the best console exclusives come out in years 4-7 of the console life cycle in my opinion
But honestly barring a couple of anomolies most of the best console exclusives come out in years 4-7 of the console life cycle in my opinion
Yeah I think I will do that and hopefully the mods will be able to fix your thread title for the second time in a row.
Xbox ex is fine if the the specs they told me about in the next gen thread are true.
That SSD is gonna be life changing.
That SSD is gonna be life changing.
Word. This should be the road Switch should follow to stay on the market for many years to come without letting the huge library get wasted.
I don't get how players don't see it, think of your Steam library and imagine in next year a Steam 2 was coming and you had to buy a new PC while you also kept the old PC to play your previous games.
And then likewise Switch 2 comes or Nintendo Ultra U or whatever and you are like "when will Wind Waker UHD will get released on my Ultra U Nintendo" since each new console has its own library.
Steam is doing it for almost two decades now, Apple and Google have been doing it for the last decade, Microsoft has been doing it the past generation but only becomes apparent.
The only odd ones here are Sony and Nintendo.. but they will have to follow. PS4 is not compatible with PS5 but starting from PS5 I expect Sony to do the same.
I don't get how players don't see it, think of your Steam library and imagine in next year a Steam 2 was coming and you had to buy a new PC while you also kept the old PC to play your previous games.
And then likewise Switch 2 comes or Nintendo Ultra U or whatever and you are like "when will Wind Waker UHD will get released on my Ultra U Nintendo" since each new console has its own library.
Steam is doing it for almost two decades now, Apple and Google have been doing it for the last decade, Microsoft has been doing it the past generation but only becomes apparent.
The only odd ones here are Sony and Nintendo.. but they will have to follow. PS4 is not compatible with PS5 but starting from PS5 I expect Sony to do the same.
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I know you did that in the other one too. I know it hurt your sensibilities. Also you can cut on the passive aggressive kid.
So it's okay to post a deliberately misleading title because you already did it once and no one called you out on it? That's your argument?
Are you a fangirl or a troll?
Edit: Just read that your original post had its title changed and yet you reposted this with a misleading title. So troll. Glad for the confirmation.
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It was a hypothetical scenario from my understanding to make his point.
Much to your chagrin perhaps but I actually didn't report your previous thread.
Exactly.
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Is the same title of the article. Posted on that website. Is needed to add that is an opinion from a reader than a mod should add because I can't edit it now.
That's where I am at. I prefer MS approach of releasing their games on PC and giving the option to buy them on steam or use gamepass. If anything it makes it more likely to invest on their hardware for the first time ever.
Sony and Microsoft next gen systems have historically always been about pushing tech or graphics boundaries, even out the gate, and one of the ways to highlight or exemplify that was visa a slew of launch window first party next gen exclusives. To me having none this time around, at least for the first year or two, represents worse value proposition for the Series X, essentially turning it into a glorified but substantial PC style upgrade as opposed to a proper next gen cut off.
Perhaps the strategy will work for Microsoft and perhaps being held back by the Xbox One won't really hinder things much due to clever scaling and distribution of developers and resources, and perhaps Sony doesn't capitalise on next gen exclusives in the first year or two, we'll see I guess.
Perhaps the strategy will work for Microsoft and perhaps being held back by the Xbox One won't really hinder things much due to clever scaling and distribution of developers and resources, and perhaps Sony doesn't capitalise on next gen exclusives in the first year or two, we'll see I guess.
A quick google fu says Breath of the Wild sold around15 million, while Halo 4 sold around 10, and Halo 5 number are 5 millions within the first three months.
Considering the smaller install base and the lack of foothold in Japan, it really might be.
Sorry but... no?
I will never buy a new console without exclusive games if I already have the previous one...
Why I should buy a PS5 if the same games are available and just graphic upgraded from PS4?
Why choose between and Xbox if the same games are on PC and I already have a good one?
Exclusives are what make systems sell. I got a Gamecube to play Re and Re0 when they came out just on that system...
I will never buy a new console without exclusive games if I already have the previous one...
Why I should buy a PS5 if the same games are available and just graphic upgraded from PS4?
Why choose between and Xbox if the same games are on PC and I already have a good one?
Exclusives are what make systems sell. I got a Gamecube to play Re and Re0 when they came out just on that system...
Not sure why we're ragging on OP for using the literal title of the feature verbatim. Instead of worrying about the reader in question or how old the article is (really? 4 days old is an issue?), how about we talk about the content itself lmao. The author brings up some salient points to be honest.
Again wrong- it clearly says 'reader's feature' which like I say they do every weekend. I'm distinctly getting the impression that you never actually clicked on the article yourself since you've demonstrated here you didn't know its title or the first two words that commence it.
instead of telling people over and over that you can't change the thread title, which people already know, you can just report your own op and ask for a different title
ive done this with my own threads several times, and it gets changed pretty quickly usually
I don't get why anything in that article proves that having no exclusives is genius. The business outline would be exactly the same with or without exclusives, but exclusives would be more incentive to buy into the family.
I don't fundamentally disagree with your opinion but there are a lot of signs out there that we are experiencing a shift in the way that things were done historically. A more organic, PC-like phasing out of older hardware instead of the hard cut-off of the traditional console cycle may be the way things will be done in the future.
Yep, I think we will see all games on all launchers at some point with Sony maybe lagging behind a year or two on their exclusives.
Hmmm, they say that about Nintendo, but the platforms with cross generation titles were basically equivalents in terms of power and architecture. That's not how it works for Sony & Microsoft - they have set out their stall on being in the power race and they have to live up to it.
Sony will get the best of both worlds. The third parties will develop for the install base (cross gen) and Sony will develop flagship showcase titles. Sony usually go out generations guns blazing and start very slow, this time there is a palpable gap. I would be surprised if they don't go in hard. It could be generation defining if they don't.
Also, they know when to stick the knife in with marketing as with the used games thing. If they don't lead with "why buy tomorrow's hardware to play yesterday's titles", then they're missing an opportunity.
Sony will get the best of both worlds. The third parties will develop for the install base (cross gen) and Sony will develop flagship showcase titles. Sony usually go out generations guns blazing and start very slow, this time there is a palpable gap. I would be surprised if they don't go in hard. It could be generation defining if they don't.
Also, they know when to stick the knife in with marketing as with the used games thing. If they don't lead with "why buy tomorrow's hardware to play yesterday's titles", then they're missing an opportunity.
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Kinda hard to get quotes from the article if I did not clicked on the article don't you think. Also don't worry if the mods want they will change it. I don't want you to lose sleep over it.
They add it now. Want to comment on the article now, instead of keep derailing it?
The only 'sign' is that Microsoft is adopting this strategy, we already know for Sony it's business as usual and that they will have next gen exclusives.
And I always have and always will have a dislike towards the notion of a constant PC like iterative cycle. It just inhibits technical and graphical advancements, and unnecessarily retains a far weaker lowest common denominator floor by which everything far more advanced is unnecessarily anchored to. The reason we've traditionally had next gen cut offs in the first place was to avoid that, something even PC gaming enthusiasts have benefitted from.
Thankfully Microsoft has hinted that in only plans to have cross gen only games for the first year or two, so in reality they're only delaying the cut off point for this arbitrary period of time and hopefully not any longer.
PS4 and PS4 Pro were basically just hardware upgrades you would do on PC but cheaper.
Just be happy PS5 will be a monster for such a cheap price!
Imagine continuing to derail the thread over the incredibly insignificant circumstance of who exactly wrote the piece lol. Never change guys.
Anyway, Microsoft's strategy on positioning XSX as a device to push higher performance of cross gen games instead of pushing next gen exclusives is an interesting one. Not quite sure if it will bear fruit, but I figure with an increased focus on having all your games in one place via game pass, and playing them on other devices via xcloud, actual box sales are less of a priority than ever before.
Anyway, Microsoft's strategy on positioning XSX as a device to push higher performance of cross gen games instead of pushing next gen exclusives is an interesting one. Not quite sure if it will bear fruit, but I figure with an increased focus on having all your games in one place via game pass, and playing them on other devices via xcloud, actual box sales are less of a priority than ever before.
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I'm a troll because I didn't knew I had to put (reader submission)?
Also if you want to insult me get at least the pronoun right.
I agree that series X doesn't need an exclusive to showcase it. I do think, tho, that MS needs an exclusive first party to show its xbox capabilities (both One, one x and series X).
Going with third party only might be way too risky, and doesn't show investment.
Going with third party only might be way too risky, and doesn't show investment.
I bet a third party surprises us before any first party.
HDR is way bigger than anything any hardware can do, and that takes actual human skill to implement.
Imagine current games with good HDR but also Ray Tracing.