Let's see if Microsoft's genius strategy pulls them out of their perpetual third place in console sales position this coming gen. It probably won't, but they should make a tide sum from their service offerings.
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GameCentral (reader submission): Why Xbox Series X having no exclusives is genius
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I completely disagree, an iterative cycle would just push PC development to be anchored to a lower ceiling for longer. Eg now many PC games will potentially have to be designed with Xbox One level hardware in mind even into 2021/2022, whereas otherwise many could have been designed or optimised solely around SSD's, far better CPU's/GPU's etc as the minimum requirement sooner, especially or notably first party games.
Spot on. Like I said earlier, they'll enter the next generation with a potential userbase consisting of XB1, XSX, Microsoft Store, Steam, Game Pass and xCloud. And on top of all that they have big streamers that will go live playing their 1st party games day 1 essentially helping them with marketing. It's a massive difference compared to if they only made the games run on a newly launched XSX.
This is always the case, we get 2 versions of games at the start of the gen, and is probably the norm for larger publishers, so isn't necessarily a shock or unexpected overhead, it may end up being easier as MS are likely to smooth that process with their tooling and support to acknowledge it's family of consoles unlike previous gens.
Lockhart/XSX is a base of 50m+ day one, that lowers the risk tremendously for its content creators.
I get Microsoft wanting to make their software accessible, but at this point why have the console? Why not just become a third party software developer, and try to release on as many platforms as possible? If they want to sell to power users, release it for PCs with the most powerful settings. For consoles, PS4 or PS5, and the switch of course for handhelds. Then just liscense to Stadia for the other platforms?
It's kinda hard to both have an ecosystem, and also make your games accessible. You need to give people incentive to buy into your ecosystem. Sure there will be those who buy an XXboxXseriesOneX1 for the flops and Ks, but the most serious of power users already have and build PCs. Since consoles rarely are at the zenith of technology, and the jump between generations isn't as stark as past gens, software is ultimately going to be what pulls people into upgrading. And it's going to be hard to convince people to buy a new Xbox if it plays the same games as their old on, and all the exclusive killer apps are on the competition.
I'm not against Microsoft trying to be accessible, but having a console platform at the same time just seems a little redundant.
It's kinda hard to both have an ecosystem, and also make your games accessible. You need to give people incentive to buy into your ecosystem. Sure there will be those who buy an XXboxXseriesOneX1 for the flops and Ks, but the most serious of power users already have and build PCs. Since consoles rarely are at the zenith of technology, and the jump between generations isn't as stark as past gens, software is ultimately going to be what pulls people into upgrading. And it's going to be hard to convince people to buy a new Xbox if it plays the same games as their old on, and all the exclusive killer apps are on the competition.
I'm not against Microsoft trying to be accessible, but having a console platform at the same time just seems a little redundant.
The incentive is Game Pass and xCloud. I pekoe my Game Pass subscription because I get to play games like Outer Worlds and Ori for $10/month as opposed to paying $60 for them new. The console is for people who like the ecosystem but are historically more comfortable playing on a user friendly box they can hook up to their TV.
is this your argument?I'm a troll because I didn't knew I had to put (reader submission)?
Also if you want to insult me get at least the pronoun right.
They pretty much started that this gen , made it much easier to not want to buy an XBO, if Sony actually follows suit with putting their games on PC then I have no reason another Sony console either. So I guess if they care more about software over hardware and their ecosystem then sure.
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About what? That was a honest mistake, that I don't have any agenda, and I don't like to be insulted, getting passive agressive replies and misgender over it?
What's wrong with it, boss? (Apart from the spelling mistake - it should be tidy not tide)
Right - I'm trying to parse this and apologies I'm rather tired. Context you say? What meaning I'm trying to make from it? Yes? I'm saying that there's a lot of Microsoft 'puff' pieces going around at the moment - which this falls under - especially as the OP didn't mention it was a reader comment and not the publications stand. The gist is that Microsoft's next gen strategy is 'some genius' - well I'm saying let's see about that. It don't think it's going to help them shift any more consoles than they historically do (compared to their competing video game console companies), but I do expect it make them more money through services. What's wrong with that?
You could have just posted this opinion to begin with is my point, and you dont need to apologize.
I did though? You knew what I meant, but dropped a comment that I didn't really like nor appreciate - specially coming from a moderator. Maybe I'm not the only one who's tired?
I did not know what you meant at all and its why I was puzzled and thought it was a parody or joke post.
But the Game Pass will work for me no matter if I play it one Xbox One, Xbox X, or PC right? If they're the same games across platforms, then what reason would I have to upgrade right away? The user friendly box people are also the same people who normally don't mind taking a performance hit if it means they can play their games cheaper and with less complications. So if Halo is the next big killer app, and my options are sinking $450 to play it on a new console vs. $60 on a console I own, I'm likely to continue playing on my current console.
The only time I could pontentially see the upgrade worth it is when those games start to look dated and run sluggish in comparison, and the upgrade cost seems more and more worth it, but that certainly won't happen within the first years of the consoles life, which are arguably the most important. Meanwhile people who really need to play that new Uncharted or God of War are more likely to sink that $400 cost, because performance or not, that how they get to play their next game.
From a customer standpoint, I like the idea of what microsoft is trying because they're not gating you off from their content, just because you don't want to upgrade yet. But from a business standpoint, It doesn't seem like a great way to incentivize adoption. Microsoft can have it's ecosystem without needing a console, and I feel that would be the best direction to take their strategy. The box just seems redundant at this point, and kinda hinders what they are trying to accomplish.
Does it really matter if it's from a reader or from a journalist? I mean it's not like journalist can't have bad opinions or just because it's a journalist he can't be biased or anything, so as long as the points are good.
But imo, not having a clean break of generations isn't genius because it's nothing new. However it's a very good thing for both consumers, developers and the platform holder to have an ever-growing ecosystem. And it will make increasingly hard for others that don't follow suit to compete (that's basically why Sony will have BC, and likely try to mimic this as close as they can even though their platform is not able to provide the same seamlessly experience)
But imo, not having a clean break of generations isn't genius because it's nothing new. However it's a very good thing for both consumers, developers and the platform holder to have an ever-growing ecosystem. And it will make increasingly hard for others that don't follow suit to compete (that's basically why Sony will have BC, and likely try to mimic this as close as they can even though their platform is not able to provide the same seamlessly experience)
Every generation we have had cross gen titles for the first year or two, not sure why this is such a concern to some. Especially when third party is not under any restrictions to be forced to make Xbox One games and can just make Series X and PS5 and PC titles if they so wish.
What we can do is scritinized Microsoft's 1st party titles that come to Series X but guess what, none have been released so far. So we are unable to compare them to PS5 games to see exactly how this stratgey of Microsofts is as bad as some think.
What we can do is scritinized Microsoft's 1st party titles that come to Series X but guess what, none have been released so far. So we are unable to compare them to PS5 games to see exactly how this stratgey of Microsofts is as bad as some think.
Scaling down a next gen quality experience to base XB1 hardware is going to be a real challenge for developers. But MS can simply throw more money at the problem so that might actually be a viable option for them.
I just have to question what that's going to look like in the case of Sony throwing their full resources on next gen first party exclusives. Nintendo doesn't have to compete with Sony on graphics the way MS does.
I just have to question what that's going to look like in the case of Sony throwing their full resources on next gen first party exclusives. Nintendo doesn't have to compete with Sony on graphics the way MS does.
Breathe of the wild being crossgen is fine, but not xbox exclusives. So weird.
I'm not sure it's "genius." It's a pretty cool decision for people who don't want to early adopt or have a reason to early adopt. Pretty consumer friendly in that sense.
Also, this is like posting one of those WSJ/NYT opinion pieces... and those are most often just horrible.
NOTE: For all of the people saying BOTW being cross-gen was fine; yes, exactly that. It was fine. For a game that could have had one of the very few negatives (possibly) removed, the abhorrent frame rate in several spots in that masterpiece. So it was fine... but it could have been an ultimate masterpiece.
Also, this is like posting one of those WSJ/NYT opinion pieces... and those are most often just horrible.
NOTE: For all of the people saying BOTW being cross-gen was fine; yes, exactly that. It was fine. For a game that could have had one of the very few negatives (possibly) removed, the abhorrent frame rate in several spots in that masterpiece. So it was fine... but it could have been an ultimate masterpiece.
Last gen there were numerous next gen only exclusives, especially on the Xbox One. Some of them would be impossible to run on 360 (Ryse and Dead Rising, for example). That's where the concern comes from.
Third parties will be the last ones to develop for next gen only. PS4 + X1 market is like 150 million. They're not just abandoning that.
I doubt Super Bomberman R and 1,2 Switch were the reason of the initial success of the Switch.
I doubt also having Breath of the Wild on the Wii U is the reason either.
Of course they aren't and neither will Sony for some titles as well. I have no doubts the limitations of the Xbox One is going to be of concern for some games. Rumour is Cyberpunk 2077 is having difficulties in base hardware but again all wet can do is see how the games are when they come fromMicrosoft. Breath of the Wild was cross green and was up for GOTY.
Most would rather want high caliber games like that then worrying if the game was being held back or not. Halo Infinite and 343 akready said they will be using the power of Project Scarlett.
I bought a Switch at launch and can't remember any others lmao.
1-2-Switch is probably the most notable but there were others too.
Its genius if you have someone else making exclusives for it. If they have no deals in place and no teams making exclusives, there's going to be a LOT of wasted horsepower and some disappointed early adopters. The Xbox One X didnt drive consumer excitement for the brand as some expected, and i dont really see how an Xbox One X2 would be different.
Probably has something to do with comparing the specs/performance of the Wii U vs Switch to the XB1 vs XSX
Probably has something to do with comparing the specs/performance of the Wii U vs Switch to the XB1 vs XSX
What I'm curious about is this: will a game like Halo Infinite or Forza Motorsport 8 have one version or two? Will there be an Xbox One SKU and a separate Xbox Series X SKU? Or just an "Xbox" SKU that works on all Xbox One and Series X systems?
The former is just a cross-gen strategy and nothing really new. The latter would be a new path forward.
The former is just a cross-gen strategy and nothing really new. The latter would be a new path forward.
Most likely correct.
It's a very consumer friendly and long-term vision by Microsoft.
And honestly, it's not much of a risk like some are "concerned" about. Consoles are pretty much just generic PC hardware now. Mindbending new tech that can't be scaled down to old consoles is not happening.
It's a very consumer friendly and long-term vision by Microsoft.
And honestly, it's not much of a risk like some are "concerned" about. Consoles are pretty much just generic PC hardware now. Mindbending new tech that can't be scaled down to old consoles is not happening.
It will be the latter. The only reason the former existed was new consoles were almost totally incompatible with the old consoles. (Even the way of delivering the games was incompatible. The Xbox 360 store is still seperate from the Xbox One/Microsoft Store.) Now developers just make their game on a high-end development console or PC and turn the resolution/amount of grass settings down until it runs on a low-end console.
It's going to be so nice.
Yeah, I think it's a great path forward. I hope Nintendo does this as well with Switch and its future iterations.
I'm pretty sure people will understand Microsoft vision for Next Gen once the Marketing campaign start rolling next fall, I'm so happy to know that with my One X will be able to play Halo Infinite and have enough time so I can transition to the new console later and not become poor in the process. And my controls come with me too! I'm the only one very exited that I don't have to spend a lot of money?
Why is everyone so pessimistic about this very friendly approach for consumers?
Why is everyone so pessimistic about this very friendly approach for consumers?
The results of this poll might answer your question: https://www.resetera.com/threads/which-next-gen-console-will-you-get-next-fall.148897/
