Same. I have already paid off 4 copies (2 to play and 2 to collect) and I will walk away and willing to lose £200 if they don't fix this.
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Gameinformer: Every Pokémon in your party gets equal experience automatically as you progress through the game. (No more Exp. Share)
- Thread starter Xavi
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I'm pretty indifferent to this since I've been using exp share since basically the beginning. I've always liked training a larger variety of pokemon and by doing that with the modern exp share huge roster of pokemon would all be viable and the right level for whatever challenge came up.
I think this is an issue for people who make a single team of 6 pokemon and largely stick with them the whole game. Exp share on in this environent will lead to you being massively over leveled. It's also why people saying "they adjust the difficulty around this change" confuse me. You really can't balance pokemon around how everyone is going to play it.
I think this is an issue for people who make a single team of 6 pokemon and largely stick with them the whole game. Exp share on in this environent will lead to you being massively over leveled. It's also why people saying "they adjust the difficulty around this change" confuse me. You really can't balance pokemon around how everyone is going to play it.
Yeah, it's weird people are so happy with the possibility that they're basically taking away the option of adding in a party member mid-game.
My guess is that to most people, the worst part about Pokemon IS the grinding part, a lot of people used EXP Share because it cuts down the number of samey battles while people who like a harder experience/watching a Pokemon grow by itself/doing Nuzlockes just isn't that big.
Still sucks that they threw away the option...but honestly, i find that Pokemon games just drag on and the battles become too repetitive if i play without EXP Share and makes me use less Pokemon-
If you look at common RPG complaints, it's that grinding becomes really boring, there is just something to having a lot of turn-based battles that aren't fast, or even when you are oneshotting everything, still feel slow due to menus and animations, that tire people out.
It's why EXP Share and other mechanics to reduce grinding are becoming more and more common, or they are trying to make battles more fun, i also guess that grinding also feels somewhat mandatory to everyone that isn't a challenge gamer and people don't like being forced to train?
I mean, a lot of people who play solely turn-based games that don't require grinding or much of it seem to enjoy those a lot more than games like Pokemon and other RPG's where grinding feels mandatory at times to proceed through a game, again, i think it's just the feeling of being stuck in some areas fighting the same enemies and going through menus that ends up annoying people.
But, then again, a lot of people actually like this kind of thing and just because EXP Share is common in many other games, doesn't mean that Pokemon fans will like them, particularly if said fans don't even play other RPG's to begin with.
We're not sure. It would be a non-issue if you could, but if you can then it's literally just the same thing as EXP Share and is just not news at all.
Having to travel the entire region to get badges is such a pain..... can't all the gym leaders be like, in the same building? And i get all the badges by just beating one? i'm not a ten year old anymore i dont have TIME TO PLAY GAMES (but i have time to complain in era)
Thanks game freak you're a pal. Don't forget to make this completely forced on everyone else cause the way i play surely is the best way and anyone else who disagrees should just find another game
I mean, okay whatever. Its been clear since Gen 6 that the single player is only there because there is no feasible way to out a multiplayer battle only Pokemon game like Stadium now that 3D Battles are a thing, and the single player campaign has never been that difficult. As for balance complaints this explains why the 1st gym is at level 19 for the ace, the game is gonna have a high level endgame if the level curve is that steep.
I can't think of any points in Pokémon games in which players can't get over a roadblock by using lateral thinking. I genuinely don't know what kind og Pokémon games people have been playing these last decades.
Its... Its because you're weakening them. The point of fighting a Pokemon before throwing a Pokeball at them is to weaken them so they can't break out of the plastic prison you're trapping them in! Pretty sure every game explains this the first time you get Pokeballs.
Honestly, I can't even play Pokemon Lets Go. It's entirely antithetical to how I play Pokemon. I don't want to forced to capture 40 Ratata just because I want to level up my damned Eevee or to get some rare spawn. At most I capture 3 of each Pokemon, depending on whether I want to try completing a living dex otherwise, I only ever need the one. Capturing every Pokemon I run into isn't nearly as fun as battling them.
Even necrozma which people keep using as the ultimate pokemon roadblock can be trivialized by destiny bond and focus sash
Older persona games had better chances when the demons were weaker and Persona 5 either requires you to down them with an attack to start negotiation or hurt them enough that they get scared and try negotiating with you instead
So basically same thing. You don't use the PS Move controller to pet Pixie and convince her to join your party, no.
I fainted
Less options is a universal bad thing
Why cant the spirit of innovation that infected B of the W infect Pokeymon
Or Mimikyu with Toxic and a full party. 90% chance of success.
Exactly what I did. Zoroark in the front. A Fighting/Poison-type in the back. Necrozma will just keep using psychic type moves that Zoroark just shrugs off like its nothing.
Or even just using Toxic on it once and trying to stall out the clock.
Or using X Spec. Def. and Roto Boost so you can survive it's attacks.
Or using the Pokemon Refresh affection buff that just lets your pokemon Dodge attacks that should have hit it, or survive moves that would have KO'd it.
Even for one of the most tricky matches the series has seen in a long time there was many alternate ways you could take it down instead of "Gringding for hours on end".
Heaven help people try to experiment around with all the tools the game gives to them at their disposal.
Or a myriad other things. Priority stat moves, Trick Room, fixed damage moves, you name it. Not to mention, to absolutely can address the "grinding problem" without taking away the option for those who don't want to opt in.
You could ALWAYS do it and for some years already what you say you want (Exp Share ON so every pokémon earns exp) has been the default behaviour that you had to go out of your way in order to disable. They just took away that option for those of us that actually enjoyed it while you won't see any difference at all because that's how it actually already worked, have you even played a recent Pokémon game?
And even if you're underleveled, you can just catch a bunch of wild Pokemon (including legendaries) in Ultra Space and they're all at level 60.
Who are they making these changes for?
An entire generation beat Pokemon Red and Blue, two obtuse games with almost no tutorial or hand-holding on the GameBoy. The tricky parts only encouraged building a community ("Hey, I'm stuck in Cerulean!" "Just go through the house that was burglarized" etc). These games were difficult and punishing, where routes between towns were long and filled with trainers with 4-5 Pokemon that were higher level than yours, and often of a different type than the wild Pokemon, and you'd have to have 1-2 of your team filled with HM 'mons and you had to let the opponent land a free hit because you had to keep switching Magikarp in and out.
Like, I don't want to be the "back in my day" guy but we know kids aren't stupid and can beat hard games. It's not an unproven.
An entire generation beat Pokemon Red and Blue, two obtuse games with almost no tutorial or hand-holding on the GameBoy. The tricky parts only encouraged building a community ("Hey, I'm stuck in Cerulean!" "Just go through the house that was burglarized" etc). These games were difficult and punishing, where routes between towns were long and filled with trainers with 4-5 Pokemon that were higher level than yours, and often of a different type than the wild Pokemon, and you'd have to have 1-2 of your team filled with HM 'mons and you had to let the opponent land a free hit because you had to keep switching Magikarp in and out.
Like, I don't want to be the "back in my day" guy but we know kids aren't stupid and can beat hard games. It's not an unproven.
That people have to play the way you want instead of being able to choose like they have been able to since 2013?
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Not really. Yo-kai Watch and DQ Monster methods are similar to SMT, the Digimon Story games use the digiconvert method and in MH Stories you have to get eggs by stealing them.
Yes, I am finishing Ultra Sun. I think both options are good. I believe that either of these options should've been there from the very beginning.
Thanks for the patronizing tone.
At least some of the responses are from people who don't know that this has been the case since 2013. It is evident from some of the comments here that the title, question and/or the first post is misleading.
Bad. They are removing an option that was in the last two gens.
So the majority are HAPPY that GF are removing the OPTION for us to play without EXP share on? This has to be a joke. Please tell me this is a joke.
You're celebrating a change that arbitrarily prevents others from enjoying the game just because you prefer it that way.
Not a high horse. I honestly don't understand your, and many other's, position.
It depends on who you ask.
Some like it because it gets rid of the grind of keeping their entire team at the same-ish level.
And I hate it because it takes away the grind of keeping my entire team at the same-ish level, despite the fact that I could optionally do that in the last 3ish games. All they've done is take away an option and they're met with applause.
It seems pretty obvious that a good chunk of the yes voters haven't touched a Pokemon game in years.
I'm almost sure that the case here is pure ignorance from the ones voting. Since it's been an option since two generations before this one.
That or this forum is even worse than I thought...
No, they are happy that GF are making the team get equal experience from every battle by default from the start. People that are happy probably aren't concerned with things other people do to enjoy the game if it doesn't affect them. That people value different things and react to changes differently doesn't invalidate anyone's reaction.
How was your starter under leveled when they gave you a portable PC on your back to swap them in and out instead of the xp share. Its the easiest Pokemon game i've ever seen in regards to manually modifying the difficulty and changing up your team (at least until they force you to have a lvl 50 Pokemon on you).
Did you read the poll question?
Assuming it CAN'T be turned off, are you happy with this decision?
It totally makes these people look like a bunch of assholes, specially when there's been an OPTION for it in the last two generations that didn't affect them negatively in ANY WAY.
yeah, the people that are happy aren't affected by it not being possible to turn it off? the question isn't are you happy with it not being a toggle, it's are you happy with exp share being built-in and and untoggleable.
I don't know how GF approaches designing their difficulty and encounters, but I imagine it's easier to predict what level and size people's teams will be when the experience gain is uniform across the team, I feel like this has the potential to make the game better for most people in a way that may not have happened with an optional exp share. I have no strong feelings about the change because I'm a casual and it doesn't seem that big to me but I totally see why people are upset, the way they enjoy to play may be impossible. I just don't think people that are happy with the change are happy just to upset people who are not.
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i don't really think you need to be empathetic in regards to a video game...there are greater things to spend your emotional energy on