I get it if someone you don't know very well and also doesn't know gaming very well uses it as a catch all for some sort of conversation starter, but...I think everytime I've had a real-world conversation about "GAMERS", it has been when some vile dealings in this culture have hit the mainstage and called into question the morality or general cognizance of people who play video games. Maybe it was gamer gate, maybe it was Steve Bannon explaining how he started a gold farming company to pull gamers into GOP echo chambers, maybe it was Milo Yannopolis getting kicked off college campuses, maybe it was the rationale behind the Sandy Hook shootings, maybe it was the congressional hearings behind night trap and mortal kombat. But when someone wants to have a conversation about "GAMERS" it's usually because something bad happened. As if they want to discuss the nature of the pejorative. Because if someone I know wants to talk about video games and they don't know about video games, they'll bring up specific examples. Fortnite, Halo, Call of Duty, Madden, etc. But they don't bring up "GAMERS". "GAMERS" is reserved for when something bad happens. "Gamers" is said with squinted eyes and a sneer.