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[Gamesindustry.biz] Patrice Désilets: Ancestors fell foul of critics' expectations
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I have deja-vus with the Amy release, back in 2004.
I even remember similar reactions from the designer:
Hint: in that case the game WAS bad. I mean, REAL bad.
I even remember similar reactions from the designer:
Hint: in that case the game WAS bad. I mean, REAL bad.
Bullshit. By trying to make the point that Kojima had it easy compared to Patrice, that's exactly what you're doing. Never mind that Patrice himself would've had it easy compared to plenty of other developers who don't have his name recognition or the backing of a Take 2 label. Every situation is different and while Kojima obviously had some advantages (and Patrice his own advantages), that doesn't make it easy to found new studios or develop new AAA games. There was no need whatsoever to even bring up Kojima.
Include me to the people who didn't know that this game was already released. Still looking forward to the console versions :)
I saw a couple people play this game and just not get it. Like literally being unable to progress.
This really hurt the game. Better UI would've helped a lot. Like, great job on shipping, but it made the game bomb!?
This really hurt the game. Better UI would've helped a lot. Like, great job on shipping, but it made the game bomb!?
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Weird point to make when Désilets left Ubisoft and directly was allowed to build his team at THQ.
And then that fell through, and then he didn't get that same opportunity.
But that's irrelevant to your initial point. He basically went to the same process Kojima did, the only difference was that to circumstances unrelated to his project, that studio ended right back at Ubisoft.
That's why he decided to go full indie. Not through lack of possibilities. The fact that he wants to keep his IP unlike Kojima probably played a part as well.
it wasn't the same experience and no one was propping him up as a borderline indie dev that didn't have access to huge amounts of resources.
I think was a level headed response. He knows that while it's hard to make games, living from news from said games can be even worse, and that's why things like that happen. As he said, he didn't made the very best game possible, and didn't recieve the very best journalist checking his game either. In the end, he made enough to him and his studio to survive, what actually matter the most.
It called the adult world, welcome to it, everyone.
It called the adult world, welcome to it, everyone.
Eh... Insert that Miyamoto quote?
I mean, sure, you have to make compromises at some point. I'm not sure cutting the tutorials was a good one to make, though.
M. Désilets, vous avez "hypé" le jeu à la hauteur de Peter Molyneux, c'est évident que les gens allaient être déçu. Maintenant, vous pouvez essayer de tourner ça en No Man Sky #2, la balle est dans votre camp. Bonne chance.
I was interested in the game until I found out it was from the developer of Assassin's Creed. That killed all of my hype for the game.
Funny thing about that is the guy got burned by Ubisoft as he didn't want it to be an annualized videogame series. He got that Amsterdam thing then killed when Ubisoft bought him out again
It's a really intriguing game that I haven't got around to playing yet. I'm happy they broke even. Wonder if they could get it on game pass too.
Maybe a customer review system could've smoothed over some of the critical reception, or perhaps even a dedicated and easily accessible forum where players can ask questions and share tips, or hmm — hear me out — user guides integrated into the game's ecosystem to make up for poor in-game tutorials.
Ah, what am I saying. Crazy talk.
Ah, what am I saying. Crazy talk.
"Yeah, yeah, yeah, the money is made. Plus, I know it's more a console game than a PC game."
Beautiful. Should be the go-to answer by developers every time they put their game on Epic Games Store. It's poetic.
Beautiful. Should be the go-to answer by developers every time they put their game on Epic Games Store. It's poetic.
To be fair, climbing trees is really fun in this game, probably the better part of it.
I haven't played the game but from what I saw of footage/reviews around the time it seemed like a fairly frustrating survival game which does a poor job of signposting what to do next. Some of the ideas looked good, but things like permadeath meaning you had to relearn everything again just seemed like awful timewasting ideas. I would be interested to know what proof Patrice has that some reviewers didn't even play the game.
Not the same. The ape is leaping in its back while stabbing it.
Not the same. The ape is leaping in its back while stabbing it.
"When you're making a very serious ethical charge, you shouldn't be exaggerating for effect", is pretty rich coming from Sterling because that's what he's building his career on most of the time.
Took the words out of my mouth. Especially when the exaggeration he's talking about was the "they have to review 15 games a week" comment which is kind of negligible
compared to the actual accusation of the reviewer making up a feature
I feel like they set themselves up with the marketing for this game. When you tout "from the director of Assassin's Creed", you set expectations. They always made it sound like a much bigger game than what it was.
Know your niche. Touting Assassins Creed sets unhealthy expectations and unhappy customers who will be "disappointed" that it has nothing in common with Ass cred, except for climbing.
How in the hell is Ancestors more of a console game exactly? Its a survival game, which is a genre dominated on the PC, made with some of the most ambiguous mechanics with zero handholding to even nudge the player in the right direction. And this is an example of a console game?
What a weak ass excuse for the game selling badly on PC.
What a weak ass excuse for the game selling badly on PC.