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Gamespot: Dark Souls is one of the most influential games of the 21st century
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I feel the Metroid series, especially Metroid Prime already laid the ground work especially the way it told its' story. Soul series popularized it.
Skyrim
Dark Souls
Minecraft
Resident Evil 4
They have all been hugely influential, it is one of them for sure.
Dark Souls
Minecraft
Resident Evil 4
They have all been hugely influential, it is one of them for sure.
If you're going ancestor route, then you wouldn't give it to Demon's Souls, you'd give it to King's Field. Or going back further, Ultima Underworld. Or going back further, Wizardry.
Dark Souls influenced & continues to influence many games. Demon's Souls primarily just influenced 1 game - Dark Souls.
I can see Dark Souls, GTA 3, and Resident Evil 4. Not going to argue too heavily for one over the other. Century seems silly though, for any choice.
Sure, but I'd also argue that there are games that take implicit inspiration from RE4's POV. I just can't think of a catchier term for it that would be comparable to Soulsborne or Souls-like.
Call of Duty 4 is likely the most influential game of the 21st century thus far, and I'm very surprised no to see it in the poll (especially over something like Devil May Cry). It's impact stems from not only its place in defining the rules most online multiplayer games still follow to this day--but it was one of the first times where multiplayer superceeded single-player. We were still designing games campaign-first in this era, as we had been since the dawn of home video gaming. We were still trying to catch our footing with what online multiplayer could be. CoD4 proved that online multiplayer could be the focal point of a game rather than the single player with how popular it was, and the whole industry shifted after that. Granted, the first notable appearance of this phenomenon was Halo 2 on Xbox--I liken it to Wolfenstein 3D where it may have been on of the earliest signs of the FPS, but it wasn't until Doom (and eventually CoD4) that really cemented the genre as a force to be reckoned with.
Shortly after CoD4, games that started life as single-player only started shoehorning multiplayer modes in their sequels to try and catch that CoD4 wind and keep games of used store shelves as long as possible. It's inflection of RPG mechanics for multiplayer progression basically created the template that all single-turned-multiplayer game series followed. (Remember seeing this with Uncharted 3 specifically, where they abandoned the progression of U2 for something much more CoD-like with 3) CoD4 got the ball rolling for games like Overwatch and Fortnite to become the sensations that they are today.
Shortly after CoD4, games that started life as single-player only started shoehorning multiplayer modes in their sequels to try and catch that CoD4 wind and keep games of used store shelves as long as possible. It's inflection of RPG mechanics for multiplayer progression basically created the template that all single-turned-multiplayer game series followed. (Remember seeing this with Uncharted 3 specifically, where they abandoned the progression of U2 for something much more CoD-like with 3) CoD4 got the ball rolling for games like Overwatch and Fortnite to become the sensations that they are today.
Dark souls fans talk the game up so much it's insane
Anyways I would say GTA3, Halo 3 or CoD4 were far more influential in creating gaming as we know it today
That's a list of incredible games but I have to pick GTA III. In addition to what it and its sequels did commercially the game, like Mortal Kombat, was a social flashpoint.
Then throw the list of open world games that use the "quest giver" mechanic, an open world that slowly expands over the story, and a sandbox of toys and sidequests to do and I'm not sure how an argument can be made for the others and I'm not a huge GTA fan.
CoD4 is probably one of the few games that belongs in the conversation with GTA III given how nearly every competitive shooter since has borrowed its leveling mechanic, smaller scope, quicker TTK, and loadouts.
Then throw the list of open world games that use the "quest giver" mechanic, an open world that slowly expands over the story, and a sandbox of toys and sidequests to do and I'm not sure how an argument can be made for the others and I'm not a huge GTA fan.
CoD4 is probably one of the few games that belongs in the conversation with GTA III given how nearly every competitive shooter since has borrowed its leveling mechanic, smaller scope, quicker TTK, and loadouts.
You could make a solid case for it being the top of the list for the 2010s, but I'd struggle to think of anything that could beat GTA3 for the whole century. It's probably GTA3, then Halo 2 and CoD4 are probably 2 and 3 for creating modern multiplayer, though I'm not sure which I'd put over the other. Then maybe Minecraft. Then you get to a tier where Dark Souls probably coexists with RE4, Gears of War, and Assassin's Creed 2. So yeah, top ten, maaaybe top five, but no way number one.
Except none of those games created an entire genre to themselves.
Dark Souls is not even as influential as ArmA 2 or ArmA 3, two games that most of you haven't heard of.
but it definitely is an influential game
but it definitely is an influential game
I think it's DOTA easy. It created an entire genre (also is also responsible for the hero shooter genre imo). The MOBA genre is the reason why free to play multiplayer games are as big as they are imo.
Misleading title
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I misunderstood the premise of this series Gamestop is doing, they are stating Dark Souls is ONE of the most influential games of the decade. My apologies, I didn't intentionally create an inflammatory thread title. I have requested a thread title change
Only me and someone else voted for Skyrim so far? I really felt it was the game tha made every other RPG wanna be open world. Dragon Age, Mass Effect, The Witcher...
Many of those poll choice don't make any sense, but it seems you know that OP.
But yeah, hard disagree on Dark Souls. Something that pushed open worlds and quest markers in the real answer; that's what has influenced most games up to this point in the last 18 years.
I'd say Morrowind maybe. Though GTA 3 is not a terrible answer either.
Skyrim is the follow up to two other games by the same studio that already did what it does. It wouldn't even exist without those. If anything you would need to look to the impact those games had. Skyrim just happens to be the most mass market iteration of those ideas thus far.
But yeah, hard disagree on Dark Souls. Something that pushed open worlds and quest markers in the real answer; that's what has influenced most games up to this point in the last 18 years.
I'd say Morrowind maybe. Though GTA 3 is not a terrible answer either.
Skyrim is the follow up to two other games by the same studio that already did what it does. It wouldn't even exist without those. If anything you would need to look to the impact those games had. Skyrim just happens to be the most mass market iteration of those ideas thus far.
Don't know how to look at the red ocean of open world games that stretches back through multiple console generations and not award this to GTA3.
Except if we're going beyond the AAA or traditional game space, in which case I think Candy Crush Saga has a serious claim to the throne.
Except if we're going beyond the AAA or traditional game space, in which case I think Candy Crush Saga has a serious claim to the throne.
Demon's Souls wuz robbed!!
Stop making that shit an honorable mention.
And though Soulsborne has been my favorite series since Demon's Souls, I don't see it near as influential as GTA3. GTA was like D&D influential.
Stop making that shit an honorable mention.
And though Soulsborne has been my favorite series since Demon's Souls, I don't see it near as influential as GTA3. GTA was like D&D influential.
Dark Souls (or Demon Sous) basically created a new genre of games, so I'd say it's definitely up there in the top 3.
No way anything compares with Minecraft and how it created a whole new generation of video game players and made billions in the process.
No way anything compares with Minecraft and how it created a whole new generation of video game players and made billions in the process.
Listen, I like the souls series, some of ya'll really overblow just how much it 'changed' things.
"Games got hard again" like, dark souls probably had some impact on that, but it was not THE reason for it.
I would argue gta3 had a more significant impact than souls did.
I'd also argue halo for the xbox is one of the most influential games of all time and it came out in the 21st century too
For being the flagship title for the new console, the original xbox, and for shaping how fps games were designed for years to the point that several design cues are still taken to this day.
And considering how the modern way the games industry is going I'd argue something like pubg is more influential by a significant amount, considering its lead to the rise of games like, fortnite and others, and will likely have shaped a lot of ideas about games and GaaS for quite some time.
"Games got hard again" like, dark souls probably had some impact on that, but it was not THE reason for it.
I would argue gta3 had a more significant impact than souls did.
I'd also argue halo for the xbox is one of the most influential games of all time and it came out in the 21st century too
For being the flagship title for the new console, the original xbox, and for shaping how fps games were designed for years to the point that several design cues are still taken to this day.
And considering how the modern way the games industry is going I'd argue something like pubg is more influential by a significant amount, considering its lead to the rise of games like, fortnite and others, and will likely have shaped a lot of ideas about games and GaaS for quite some time.
Really wish it wasn't honestly. It's annoying when the style of these games creeps in to other games. That new Star Wars game wants people to think it's like Souls so bad. I don't like it.
I have to vote GTA III. Doesn't mean I like it more than Dark Souls but it is clearly more influential in the world design.