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GameSpot: How 343 Plans To Fix Halo: The Master Chief Collection

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Papaya said:
Wtf??? This has never been fixed? Its been years. They really messed up.
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Messed up is an understatement. It's admirable they are still trying to fix it but 343 has a permanent black eye over this. I'm not sure they'll ever fully redeem themselves among those of us who bought it day 1.
 

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Well, atleast they aren't giving up on it.

But did 343 or MS knew what a massive mess it was when they released it? Why release such a product that is supposed to be a celebration of your main franchise with such problems?
 
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Mikey Jr. said:
Well, atleast they aren't giving up on it.

But did 343 or MS knew what a massive mess it was when they released it? Why release such a product that is supposed to be a celebration of your main franchise with such problems?
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i Think they mentioned that alot of the bugs didnt show up in there tests. Its why from now on every halo game will have a public beta
 
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bananafactory said:
Messed up is an understatement. It's admirable they are still trying to fix it but 343 has a permanent black eye over this. I'm not sure they'll ever fully redeem themselves among those of us who bought it day 1.
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343 didn't really do the game anyway. It was outsourced to many different companies, which is why it was a mess. No idea why MS shipped it in the state it was in though.
 
Kewlmyc

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It's been broken for 4 years. Holy shit. "Commendable" shouldn't be used anywhere near this title.
 
diablos991

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It sounds to me like 343 have no idea how to fix their game or they don't care about providing a working product to their paying customers.

Either one makes 343 a trash tier company in my eyes.

If they end up fixing it 4 years post release then good for them. I'll be damned if I trust the company again.
 

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Even more hilarious is that people flocked to the backwards compatible 360 versions of these games because they worked better than MCC
 
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Glad they aren't giving up. While I can't wait to get back to it and play some awesome Halo again, I can't help but feel.... it's 2018 man. It's embarrassing that this game released in such a disaster state and 4 years later..
 
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Must be really depressing and unhealthy for a studio to have something as big as this hanging over them. A real killer for their morale and reputation. The MCC collection was likely too ambitious, too sprawling and epic and was clearly a huge drain on 343. The best way forward would be a back to basics, single player focussed Halo reboot and for them to move on from the MCC disaster.
 
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Dio Over Heaven said:
It's been almost 4 years since this came out. It still boggles my mind that it still needs to be fixed.
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Better late than never I say

That being said, the Metacritic score certainly doesn't reflect what a disaster this was at launch. There were a lot of 9's and above. Even from reputable sites like Game Informer and Polygon
 
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The only way this feels like it has a point is if they get this on PC and ready for their next generation consoles so we don't have to do any more song and dance about re-releases. At least as an easy-in to Halo in general it has value being fixed up, if late.
 
Liam1884

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Weird that people on this forum are reacting like this is the first we've heard of this.

They announced they'll be properly fixing the MCC months ago.
 
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Papaya said:
Wtf??? This has never been fixed? Its been years. They really messed up.
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It depends on your definition of "fixed".

The game still has problems and the low population makes it even worse. For me, the MCC is still the biggest fuck up by Microsoft and 343 so far in handling Halo in general.
 
Molto

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It's great that they're still committed to improving on it, no matter how old it is. I was already satisfied with the package...the single player campaigns ran great for me, and since I mostly played against randoms online I never had any issue with the multiplayer either. The XB1X enhancements will definitely bring me back in.
 
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Roy said:
Why does it need fixing? It got an 90 on metacritic.
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Guess all those times I tried to play MP with my friends that my party got disbanded, or we got black screened on load, or it took 28 tries to all get in the same room, or the matches turned into insane lag-fests, instead of being frustrated by it, I should have reminded myself that it was all cool because the game got a 90 on metacritic.
 
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Halo is ready for its "Force Awakens" fixing MCC is the first step. Ive seen the Flight test of MCC in action and iam dying to talk about what i saw, but ill stay quiet somehow
 
Segafreak

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This game is almost 4 years old.

4 years old.

Why not just make a new remaster at this point.
 
Conkerkid11

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This video's great. I'm 5 minutes in and it still hasn't acknowledged how they're planning to fix it.
 
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it's kind of like a destiny 2 situation, except the goal for bungie is clear -- get people playing destiny 2 again so that they keep buying silver and stay for the fall expansion

with MCC, it seems like the only benefit (not saying that it isn't a worthy one) is to salvage the MCC and fix their mistakes, restoring faith in the Halo brand/franchise
 
Luchashaq

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The way the MCC was treated makes me so pissed I ever owned an xb1. Probably my worst gaming purchase ever. Halo is dead for me personally.
 
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Conkerkid11 said:
This video's great. I'm 5 minutes in and it still hasn't acknowledged how they're planning to fix it.
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This video was pretty worthless honestly the articles included in the OP go in to great detail about the mistakes they made. It shows just how ambitious and kind of insane they were for attempting so quickly
 
Irrotational

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They'll fix it, they have to now they've said they will. Screwing it up twice is even more unthinkable than screwing it up twice.

As for all the people posting "wtf why this long!?" if you read any of the articles you'd find out why. They needed some underlying changes to how Xbox live does matchmaking and parties. Or rather, now that how Xbox live does matchmaking and parties has changed anyway, they have a new chance to rebuild those features and get them working properly.

That plus a bunch of other things means they can finally get the budget and time to go back and fix it.

I strongly suspect the case was "let us port it to PC, AND fix it, and PC sales can pay for the Xbox fix"

A WORKING Halo MCC on PC could coax some people into the windows store.
 
Anth0ny

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how the fuck is this not fixed yet

hopefully it's good to go by the time i revisit these games in like 20 years
 

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Papaya said:
Wtf??? This has never been fixed? Its been years. They really messed up.
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Depends what you mean by fixed. I just played through all 5 games that are part of this in glorious 60fps. I also got on last night and played multiplayer Halo with others via matchmaking. ZERO issues.

Could it be a lot better? Does it still have issues? Yes.

Is it a completely broken pile of crap that barely runs like some people on here say? No.
 
Conkerkid11

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Holy shit, lol



Dunno if YouTube embeds at specific times work on here, but at about 7:33 the dude pronounces ElDewrito, "El-dah-righto"

And once again, a video that gets the mod wrong. It's modifying Microsoft's assets. That's what mods do. It doesn't include any of their assets in the installation though.
 
Pall Mall

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PC + Reach would be an insta $60 buy for me. I think even though its been 4 years, which is obviously an absurd amount of time, a PC release might be what's needed to revitalize the collection (though I imagine there won't be shared online with XBOX).
 
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I played through the MCC for the first time a year and a half ago and I was amazed even back then that there were still basic glitches in single player, including legacy glitches from Halo 4 that were still around.
 
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As someone that has never run into any issues with this collection on my OG XB1 or S, I'm pretty excited to get a bunch of upgrades

It's been a long time but good on them for fixing this for the people having issues. Releasing this on gamepass when fixed will hopefully revitalize the Halo community
 
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