Gaming Laptop Discussion Thread

K.Jack

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how does a rtx 2070 mid-q compares to a gtx 1070 in laptops?

is it any better or the performance will be similar in 1080p?
The 2070 Max-Q will be slower than the 1070 is some games, maybe equal in others.

Not at all worth buying if you are saying you already have a laptop with a 1070. Just wait for the 7nm RTX 3000 series, unless your laptop isn't going to make it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Ooff, I got razor blade in amazon warehouse for £1400 (with the rtx 2070mid-q) I’ll see how it feels compare to my clevo with the gtx 1070, so I’ll probably end up returning the razor, I have one month to decide (that taking into account that doesn’t arrive totally busted as it happens sometimes with amazon warehouse)
 

Dbltap

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Today's Laptop on Amazon seems decent. The CPU is a quad core. AsusTuf laptop. It has 8gig of RAM and a GTX 1650.

I just want to be able to use the Unreal 4 engine and not have it slow down to a crawl. Is that worth 799?
 

K.Jack

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Ooff, I got razor blade in amazon warehouse for £1400 (with the rtx 2070mid-q) I’ll see how it feels compare to my clevo with the gtx 1070, so I’ll probably end up returning the razor, I have one month to decide (that taking into account that doesn’t arrive totally busted as it happens sometimes with amazon warehouse)
I do expect the minimum framerates to be higher, and driver improvements may have improved the Max-Q since the last time I saw it tested.

I too have a laptop with a 1070, and for me the 20-series.just doesn't justify the cost of an entirely new laptop. The other thing is that these new laptops are still shipping with 1080p screens, which my 1070 is still crushing. If we were seeing 1440p/120Hz displays I'd be much more tempted.
 

K.Jack

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Today's Laptop on Amazon seems decent. The CPU is a quad core. AsusTuf laptop. It has 8gig of RAM and a GTX 1650.

I just want to be able to use the Unreal 4 engine and not have it slow down to a crawl. Is that worth 799?
The Predator Helios 300 for $899 is a way better deal. You get a 6-core CPU and the GTX 1060 crushes the GTX 1650. You also get more RAM and a better display.

. It's well worth the extra $100.
 
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I do expect the minimum framerates to be higher, and driver improvements may have improved the Max-Q since the last time I saw it tested.

I too have a laptop with a 1070, and for me the 20-series.just doesn't justify the cost of an entirely new laptop. The other thing is that these new laptops are still shipping with 1080p screens, which my 1070 is still crushing. If we were seeing 1440p/120Hz displays I'd be much more tempted.
I did some test, i will continue today, all games that I tried runs noticeable faster, like some that were ~50fps now are 60/61fps, also not sure why the monitor has a crispier image (both are 1080p) .
I think i'll try to sell the old one if this one continues to work well, but at this point i don't think anyone would give me even £900 for it.

my old laptop is from pcspecialist: Defiance Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS, i7 Quad Core Processor 6820HK (2.7GHz, 3.6GHz Turbo), GeForce® GTX 1070
and the new is: Razer Blade 15 Advanced Model (2019) - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q Design, 144 Hz Full HD Thin Bezel 15.6 Inch Display, Intel Core i7-8750H, 16 GB R
 

ravannis

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Is the new Acer Predator 300 really that good? I need to move to a laptop from my desktop for mobility and I've been looking at entry level 1660ti/2060 machines. I really don't like the design of the Predator. It's better than the red one from last year, but still not my cup of tea...
 

WillyFive

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Is the new Acer Predator 300 really that good? I need to move to a laptop from my desktop for mobility and I've been looking at entry level 1660ti/2060 machines. I really don't like the design of the Predator. It's better than the red one from last year, but still not my cup of tea...
Yeah, I wish they would stop designing these things for rich teenagers. It is a great machine otherwise, same for the Asus machines.
 

ravannis

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Yeah, I wish they would stop designing these things for rich teenagers. It is a great machine otherwise, same for the Asus machines.
I don't really understand it as well. I've been thinking about sacrificing power and buying a GTX 1060 Razer Blade. I could skin the logo and have a slim/subdued laptop. However, someone told me that the build quality is not great so I had to abandon this idea... That's how I ended up thinking about the Acer Predator. I need to find it in person to check whether it's something I can live with daily.
 

Griselbrand

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Yeah, I wish they would stop designing these things for rich teenagers. It is a great machine otherwise, same for the Asus machines.
Mine arrived in the mail yesterday.

I actually sighed, chuckled, shook my head while I was unpacking it. The whole thing was designed with the unboxing crowd in mind. And when I started it up, the word Predator flashes across the screen with what sounds like a brief low growl.

Great laptop but very gamer.
 

K.Jack

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I did some test, i will continue today, all games that I tried runs noticeable faster, like some that were ~50fps now are 60/61fps, also not sure why the monitor has a crispier image (both are 1080p) .
I think i'll try to sell the old one if this one continues to work well, but at this point i don't think anyone would give me even £900 for it.

my old laptop is from pcspecialist: Defiance Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS, i7 Quad Core Processor 6820HK (2.7GHz, 3.6GHz Turbo), GeForce® GTX 1070
and the new is: Razer Blade 15 Advanced Model (2019) - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q Design, 144 Hz Full HD Thin Bezel 15.6 Inch Display, Intel Core i7-8750H, 16 GB R
Yeah like I said, driver improvements have probably allowed the 2070 to pull ahead of where it was at launch, and I knew the minimum frames would be better due to the 2070 having much higher bandwidth.

I'm not surprised the screen looks better, this latest crop of 144Hz displays is really incredible, and Razer is using a really nice LG Phillips panel. If you'd like to see if it can improve with a proper calibration, scroll down to the 'Display' section of the Notebookcheck review, there they provide a professionally calibrated ICC profile for free download. I use theirs for my MSI GT73 and it is a nice improvement over stock.

Is the new Acer Predator 300 really that good? I need to move to a laptop from my desktop for mobility and I've been looking at entry level 1660ti/2060 machines. I really don't like the design of the Predator. It's better than the red one from last year, but still not my cup of tea...
it's a good value, I'd just have to get over or cover the Transformer logo.

The laptop is fine, but i would not call it a good value buy at $1200 with 1660 Tis going around that rate.

Can anyone recommend a great cooling pad? The Predator I just got is going to need some help with cooling.
Is it the CPU? The 8750H is pretty much a mandatory undervolt in almost every laptop.

I don't really have any pads in mind. I've never bought a machine that needed one. There are "Top 10" articles out there.
 
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Yeah like I said, driver improvements have probably allowed the 2070 to pull ahead of where it was at launch, and I knew the minimum frames would be better due to the 2070 having much higher bandwidth.

I'm not surprised the screen looks better, this latest crop of 144Hz displays is really incredible, and Razer is using a really nice LG Phillips panel. If you'd like to see if it can improve with a proper calibration, scroll down to the 'Display' section of the Notebookcheck review, there they provide a professionally calibrated ICC profile for free download. I use theirs for my MSI GT73 and it is a nice improvement over stock.
I will try later thanks!.
But the difference in performance is incredible, which made me lead to believe if i had something something setup wrong with my old 1070 clevo , because Prey for example runs at 55-60fps in that one, and with the 2070 mid-q runs at 120fps easily, which make no sense (if you read all the comparisons online), is almost double speed. MGSV and The new Metro as well (without raytracing).
 

K.Jack

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I will try later thanks!.
But the difference in performance is incredible, which made me lead to believe if i had something something setup wrong with my old 1070 clevo , because Prey for example runs at 55-60fps in that one, and with the 2070 mid-q runs at 120fps easily, which make no sense (if you read all the comparisons online), is almost double speed. MGSV and The new Metro as well (without raytracing).
Hmm yeah something is not right, in Prey especially, as the GTX 1070 should be crushing 100+ fps in that easily at 1080p. Even the GTX 1060 just barely does so. Heck the 1070 should be 80+ fps at 1440p.
 
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Hmm yeah something is not right, in Prey especially, as the GTX 1070 should be crushing 100+ fps in that easily at 1080p. Even the GTX 1060 just barely does so. Heck the 1070 should be 80+ fps at 1440p.
It may be the CPU whose bottlenecking it, is an old i7-6820HK 2.7GHz that i didn't bother to overclock (because mostly i don't know what to touch)
 

K.Jack

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It may be the CPU whose bottlenecking it, is an old i7-6820HK 2.7GHz that i didn't bother to overclock (because mostly i don't know what to touch)
Hey don't call the 6820HK old, I have the same CPU. Well yeah it's old in this age of 6 and 8 core CPUs I guess.

If it's actually running at 2.7Ghz (it should be auto-overclocking to 3.2Ghz at least) that would certainly explain some things. I had mine undervoltted and overclocked to 4.0Ghz.
 

FallenChief

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Need your help ERA!!

I will be starting my MS CS in UniMelb in a few weeks and need a new laptop. The current one I have is over 9 years old with i3 2330M with iGPU. Since I will be buying in Australia, my budget is around AUD 2500 - AUD 3000. I will mostly use this for productivity, web development, coding and occasional gaming and would like to play AAA on near max settings. Keyboard should be pretty good for long writing sessions and the aesthetics should be decent. I have been going through many reviews but happen to be indecisive among the following: -
1. Asus Strix Scar 3: 15" 144 Hz, RTX 2060, i7 9750H AUD 2499 (2 years intl warranty)
2. Asus Zephyrus S GX502: 15" 144 Hz, RTX 2060, i7 9750H AUD 2899 2 years intl warranty
3. Acer Predator Triton 500: 15" 144 Hz, RTX 2060, i7 9750H AUD 2699
4. Lenovo Legion y740: 15" 144 Hz, RTX 2060, i7 9750H ~AUD 2300 (Some offer going on which will end on 25th; regular price AUD 2699)
5. I love the alienware m15 R2's design but it is way too expensive for similar specs.

Kindly advice me on which laptop to buy.... Or wait? I can probably use my old lappy for 1-2 months if it means better tech or cheaper prices.

Thanks.
 

K.Jack

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Need your help ERA!!

I will be starting my MS CS in UniMelb in a few weeks and need a new laptop. The current one I have is over 9 years old with i3 2330M with iGPU. Since I will be buying in Australia, my budget is around AUD 2500 - AUD 3000. I will mostly use this for productivity, web development, coding and occasional gaming and would like to play AAA on near max settings. Keyboard should be pretty good for long writing sessions and the aesthetics should be decent. I have been going through many reviews but happen to be indecisive among the following: -
1. Asus Strix Scar 3: 15" 144 Hz, RTX 2060, i7 9750H AUD 2499 (2 years intl warranty)
2. Asus Zephyrus S GX502: 15" 144 Hz, RTX 2060, i7 9750H AUD 2899 2 years intl warranty
3. Acer Predator Triton 500: 15" 144 Hz, RTX 2060, i7 9750H AUD 2699
4. Lenovo Legion y740: 15" 144 Hz, RTX 2060, i7 9750H ~AUD 2300 (Some offer going on which will end on 25th; regular price AUD 2699)
5. I love the alienware m15 R2's design but it is way too expensive for similar specs.

Kindly advice me on which laptop to buy.... Or wait? I can probably use my old lappy for 1-2 months if it means better tech or cheaper prices.

Thanks.
I would go with the Y740 while it's on sale. It's a well reviewed machine, and none of the others justify paying the higher prices.
 

Dbltap

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Yeah like I said, driver improvements have probably allowed the 2070 to pull ahead of where it was at launch, and I knew the minimum frames would be better due to the 2070 having much higher bandwidth.

I'm not surprised the screen looks better, this latest crop of 144Hz displays is really incredible, and Razer is using a really nice LG Phillips panel. If you'd like to see if it can improve with a proper calibration, scroll down to the 'Display' section of the Notebookcheck review, there they provide a professionally calibrated ICC profile for free download. I use theirs for my MSI GT73 and it is a nice improvement over stock.


it's a good value, I'd just have to get over or cover the Transformer logo.


The laptop is fine, but i would not call it a good value buy at $1200 with 1660 Tis going around that rate.


Is it the CPU? The 8750H is pretty much a mandatory undervolt in almost every laptop.

I don't really have any pads in mind. I've never bought a machine that needed one. There are "Top 10" articles out there.
Sorry for the slow response. I wound up in the ER and then a few day's in ICU.

No worries on temp. I was reading old info. I do have a question about undervolting? How do I do that? If you point me to a guide, I should be able to do it myself. Thanks again K-jack.
 

Keywork

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Any word yet on how the new Alienware m15 is being received? I'm interested in seeing how the improved thermals perform compared to the last version as a lot of reviewers made note of how hot it got (even to the point of discomfort for a few).
 

BoxManLocke

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Anybody got the 2019 Gigabyte Aero 15 ?

Seriously thinking about going for the AMOLED one. After spending six months looking for the perfect deal on a budget gaming laptop I'm sick of the concessions and I just want to treat myself (and also get back into photo editing with that screen).

Found one for 1900€, which seems very decent. I read the laptop was quite loud under load, but I'm hoping the more modest GPU in that configuration (1660Ti Max-Q) can alleviate the issue.
 

Testedostrich

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i'm considering buying a Dell Inspiron 7000, the new versions( at the moment available only in Europe I think). it has practically the same specs of the XPS 9580 but for lot less. you get a i5 9300h, gtx 1650, 8 GB ram( single stick so u can use the other slot to upgrade easily and with not that much money to 16gb) 512 ssd nvme, 15.6 fhd, 96 wh battery(!), full backlit keyboard with numpad, fingerprint, less than 2 cm and 1.76 kg of weight. all in magnesium. the price? 1198€ that with the always present discount of 14 to 19% on the dell site go down to 1000€. my question is how much do you think the low thickness will impact the temperatures( dell advertise a new cooling system). I want to play a little on the go, I'm ok with 1080p 30 FPS, do you think the gtx 1650 will be capable for at least 4 years to give this performance and good temperatures(example: cyberpunk 2077)? I know there are thicker laptop with a very nice cooling system but way thicker, my problem is also the portability and the weight. what do u think? there are cheaper solution in the same category? thanks in advance.
 
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Surface of Me

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How is this laptop going for you? This looks like what I want and while most of the reviews on Newegg look positive, there are lots of negative ones complaining about overheating and other hardware issues. I would like anyone else who has experience with this laptop to chime in as well.
Sorry for the late reply! I still haven't played a lot of demanding games on it since I haven't gotten an internal SSD to expand the storage. I will say Halo Wars 2 and Gears 5 beta both ran excellently on it. Halo Wars 2 max settings and Gears 5 mostly high setting and both ran well, and cool. Neither run much higher than 80c and that's at their peaks. I do have it on a laptop cooler and I do plan to re-apply the thermal paste to a better brand, like Arctic-MX-4. It idles around 40c, which is mostly fine. I will say on certain late gen 360/PS3 games the CPU can get hot because I assume they weren't designed around a lot of cores. And it is the CPU that will get hot here, not the GPU for the most part. I've underclocked the CPU just a bit and even that will lower it by about 2-3 celsius, which can mean a difference. Overall I'm really happy with it and it still seems like a really good deal.
 

K.Jack

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Sorry for the slow response. I wound up in the ER and then a few day's in ICU.

No worries on temp. I was reading old info. I do have a question about undervolting? How do I do that? If you point me to a guide, I should be able to do it myself. Thanks again K-jack.
Hey hope you're doing well.

This undervolting guide written up by Notebookcheck seems to be pretty comprehensive.

I've also done it a lot if you have any follow up questions.

Any word yet on how the new Alienware m15 is being received? I'm interested in seeing how the improved thermals perform compared to the last version as a lot of reviewers made note of how hot it got (even to the point of discomfort for a few).
There aren't a lot of M15 R2 out there, and review units have not yet been sent out, so it's hard to say.

Judging from hands on impressions, it seems to have improved on almost everything from the R1, but they've also soldered the RAM to the mobo now, so there is no aftermarket upgrading on the user side.

Anybody got the 2019 Gigabyte Aero 15 ?

Seriously thinking about going for the AMOLED one. After spending six months looking for the perfect deal on a budget gaming laptop I'm sick of the concessions and I just want to treat myself (and also get back into photo editing with that screen).

Found one for 1900€, which seems very decent. I read the laptop was quite loud under load, but I'm hoping the more modest GPU in that configuration (1660Ti Max-Q) can alleviate the issue.
I understand getting tired of chasing a budget. The Aero 15 is a good choice.

It's in the ~50dB range with all of the other thin gaming laptops. All of them are "wear headphones while gaming" to me.

i'm considering buying a Dell Inspiron 7000, the new versions( at the moment available only in Europe I think). it has practically the same specs of the XPS 9580 but for lot less. you get a i5 9300h, gtx 1650, 8 GB ram( single stick so u can use the other slot to upgrade easily and with not that much money to 16gb) 512 ssd nvme, 15.6 fhd, 96 wh battery(!), full backlit keyboard with numpad, fingerprint, less than 2 cm and 1.76 kg of weight. all in magnesium. the price? 1198€ that with the always present discount of 14 to 19% on the dell site go down to 1000€. my question is how much do you think the low thickness will impact the temperatures( dell advertise a new cooling system). I want to play a little on the go, I'm ok with 1080p 30 FPS, do you think the gtx 1650 will be capable for at least 4 years to give this performance and good temperatures(example: cyberpunk 2077)? I know there are thicker laptop with a very nice cooling system but way thicker, my problem is also the portability and the weight. what do u think? there are cheaper solution in the same category? thanks in advance.
Do I believe a quad core and a GTX 1650 will last 4 years, when the PS5 and Scarlet drop next year? That's really hard to say. You will be good for current gen games but when things shift to the new consoles, which are significantly stronger than your PC, you're looking at medium/low settings at best to run ports well. But you have 2 years of cross gen development, plus a year before they come out, so yeah that's close to 4 years I guess.
 
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Testedostrich

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Hey hope you're doing well.

This undervolting guide written up by Notebookcheck seems to be pretty comprehensive.

I've also done it a lot if you have any follow up questions.


There aren't a lot of M15 R2 out there, and review units have not yet been sent out, so it's hard to say.

Judging from hands on impressions, it seems to have improved on almost everything from the R1, but they've also soldered the RAM to the mobo now, so there is no aftermarket upgrading on the user side.



I understand getting tired of chasing a budget. The Aero 15 is a good choice.

It's in the ~50dB range with all of the other thin gaming laptops. All of them are "wear headphones while gaming" to me.



Do I believe a quad core and a GTX 1650 will last 4 years, when the PS5 and Scarlet drop next year? That's really hard to say. You will be good for current gen games but when things shift to the new consoles, which are significantly stronger than your PC, you're looking at medium/low settings at best to run ports well. But you have 2 years of cross gen development, plus a year before they come out, so yeah that's close to 4 years I guess.
Thank you, i've watched a youtube video about the dell, it is pretty good, thin and powerful but my worst fear is confirmed, as thin as it is, it's a furnace, you need to undervolt it and block hyperthreading to game. As someone posted before a gaming laptop is tricky, you need a thick one if you want to game or you be better with a very thin Chromebook/laptop plus a console. It is what I will do, maybe streaming game would be the answer to gaming on the go but I doubt it will be good for at least 1-2 year.
 

neoak

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I thought about replacing my OLED Alienware 13 R3 because it is thick, but it doesn't overheat and doesn't throttle with the 7700HQ after repasting and balancing the heatsink. All because it is quite thick, and it always stays at 3.4 Ghz while gaming all cores.
 

BoxManLocke

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I understand getting tired of chasing a budget. The Aero 15 is a good choice.

It's in the ~50dB range with all of the other thin gaming laptops. All of them are "wear headphones while gaming" to me.
Yeah I'm not expecting any miracles, and it really isn't an issue.

Still got a couple of days to decide, and I just came across the newest Aorus 7. Always wanted a 17" for comfort, but options were quite limited. It's on the cheaper side at 1700€ with an i7 9750H, 16Gb DDR4, 512 Gb SSD + 1Tb HDD, and a 1660 Ti. The problem is I can't find any info on this one since it apparently just came out. I need to know about display quality since it's my #1 criteria.
 

BoxingIsCool

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I don’t understand the appeal of a gaming laptop. Is it just you like bringing it with you when you travel and Then hook it up to an outlet and play in the hotel? Because honestly, the battery life on most laptops in general and all gaming laptops is atrocious.
 

Keywork

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I don’t understand the appeal of a gaming laptop. Is it just you like bringing it with you when you travel and Then hook it up to an outlet and play in the hotel? Because honestly, the battery life on most laptops in general and all gaming laptops is atrocious.
It’s good for certain living conditions. Like in my apartment I only have room for a device on my kitchen table. I can’t have a whole tower setup, but I could get a gaming laptop where I have decent specs to run current games. That same logic applies to college as well. You want to game on a PC, but space is limited.
 

BoxingIsCool

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It’s good for certain living conditions. Like in my apartment I only have room for a device on my kitchen table. I can’t have a whole tower setup, but I could get a gaming laptop where I have decent specs to run current games. That same logic applies to college as well. You want to game on a PC, but space is limited.
Oh that actually makes a lot of sense. And you’re ok paying a premium on a laptop that doesn’t have specs that you could get for same cost on desktop?
 

Gundato

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I don’t understand the appeal of a gaming laptop. Is it just you like bringing it with you when you travel and Then hook it up to an outlet and play in the hotel? Because honestly, the battery life on most laptops in general and all gaming laptops is atrocious.
I have a Razer Blade Stealth 2019. In theory it is a gaming laptop and I have played a lot of CK2 and other strategy games on it. Particularly when I go visit family or am in a hotel and don't feel like being social/going to the bar.


But for me it is more that it fits the profile I want:
  • Decent keyboard (not great, but okay)
  • surprisingly muted design (my Razer laptop looks more professional than the mac I use at work..)
  • Actually really good battery when the GPU is not in use: It is meant to be able to get a few hours of gaming. So if all I am doing is coding or browsing the internet I can go 5-9 hours without recharging.
  • USB-C charging that follows standards so I only need one charger/usb-hub when I go on travel

So yeah... I basically just described a mac. But it looks a lot better, costs less for a similar config, and runs an OS I mostly like (windows) rather than one I tolerate (apple).
 

K.Jack

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Thank you, i've watched a youtube video about the dell, it is pretty good, thin and powerful but my worst fear is confirmed, as thin as it is, it's a furnace, you need to undervolt it and block hyperthreading to game. As someone posted before a gaming laptop is tricky, you need a thick one if you want to game or you be better with a very thin Chromebook/laptop plus a console. It is what I will do, maybe streaming game would be the answer to gaming on the go but I doubt it will be good for at least 1-2 year.
The gaming laptop route is definitely not for everyone. You really need to weigh your options as far as what you need and if portability matters. Building a desktop is the best route for the majority of people.

I thought about replacing my OLED Alienware 13 R3 because it is thick, but it doesn't overheat and doesn't throttle with the 7700HQ after repasting and balancing the heatsink. All because it is quite thick, and it always stays at 3.4 Ghz while gaming all cores.
That's classic Alienware, to me. Yes they were heavy but they were built like tanks and had extreme cooling. Dell never should've abandoned that DNA completely.

Yeah I'm not expecting any miracles, and it really isn't an issue.

Still got a couple of days to decide, and I just came across the newest Aorus 7. Always wanted a 17" for comfort, but options were quite limited. It's on the cheaper side at 1700€ with an i7 9750H, 16Gb DDR4, 512 Gb SSD + 1Tb HDD, and a 1660 Ti. The problem is I can't find any info on this one since it apparently just came out. I need to know about display quality since it's my #1 criteria.
Yeah the Aorus 7 is a brand new, first generation model. It looks pretty nice and I'm looking forward to reviews. I love the slim bezel and the fact that it has dedicated mouse buttons. What do you think of the MSI GE75? I'm not sure how it's priced in your region.

Where are you by the way?

Oh that actually makes a lot of sense. And you’re ok paying a premium on a laptop that doesn’t have specs that you could get for same cost on desktop?
When I did the gaming laptop OTs on GAF, I spent the first section explaining why most should avoid the laptop route. It's for lifestyle necessity, the luxury of it, or a combination of both. Everyone else should build a desktop. Laptops were getting chopped down desktop chips with weird core counts

But then Nvidia's Pascal caused a paradigm shift. A decent non-gaming laptop used to run $999, and a mid-range (mid to low-end desktop) gaming laptop started at $1300-$1400. Once desktop GPUs came to those same ~$999 and under laptops, it stopped making sense to not buy something that at lest has some kind of dedicated of dedicated GPU. The lines have blurred greatly and that's why it's so hard to not buy a gaming laptop these days. If you're looking at two $750 laptops and one has a 1050 Ti, shouldn't you take the latter, all things being equal? Even the Zenbook ultrabook class machines are rocking Geforce MX150s (desktop GT 1030) now. If anything Macbooks are seriously lagging behind the curve.

Basic laptops still have their place, just not around these types of circles. Cheap laptops still suck so in buying something with good build quality you almost can't avoid a GPU these days.

I still have little love for the $3000 desktop replacements. A ten plus pound behemoth with an i9-9900K and 2 external PSUs that is a huge hassle to move IS a desktop. Why pay so much of a premium in that scenario? Again, lifestyle or luxury.
 

Surface of Me

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To upgrade thermal paste in a laptop would yall recommend Arctic MX-4 or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut? I've heard good stuff about both of them.
 

MomoVideo

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Can anyone recommend a great cooling pad? The Predator I just got is going to need some help with cooling.
This might be late, but cooling pads are pretty much worthless. It will either drop you thermals by 1-2 degrees or not at all. The only thing it helps with is when you game with laptop on your laps because you won't feel the heat.

I don’t understand the appeal of a gaming laptop. Is it just you like bringing it with you when you travel and Then hook it up to an outlet and play in the hotel? Because honestly, the battery life on most laptops in general and all gaming laptops is atrocious.
I have friends that also like to play on PC and we prefer to play multiplayer games locally rather than online and with laptops its super easy to start a LAN party. Seriously, I pack everything I need for LAN Party in like 2 minutes. I also work at the desk 8 hours a day and after that I prefer to sit down on my couch and play games there rather than sit another few hours at the desk. If there are times when I want to play at my desk, then I have a "dock" ready - I just connect USB-C cable to my laptop to get monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers and LAN connection working. I think days of having desktop PC are over for me. Having a laptop is just too convenient.
 
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Dance Inferno

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Oct 29, 2017
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Is there an Ultrabook with a discrete GPU and ~10 hours of battery life for less than $1200? Ideally with an i7, 16 GB RAM, and 512 GB SSD? I can get a Lenovo Yoga 930 for that price without a GPU, or a Dell XPS 15 with lower specs but I've read that it has thermal issues.
 

Sansfort

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is there an Ultrabook with a discrete GPU and ~10 hours of battery life for less than $1200? Ideally with an i7, 16 GB RAM, and 512 GB SSD? I can get a Lenovo Yoga 930 for that price without a GPU, or a Dell XPS 15 with lower specs but I've read that it has thermal issues.
The blade stealth with MX150 is for 1299 at the razer store. It's a low-end GPU but if you want an ultrabook that could do light/indie gaming that would be it.
 

Buddy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Germany
I'm in the market for a entry level gaming laptop. The system should be able to play newer games with console settings (i'm absolutely fine with the gfx/framerates of my ps4 games) but will mostly be used for Multimedia stuff. How much should the Budget be for my needs? I was thinking around 600€ - 700€ but im willing to up that number if necessary.

Any suggestions?
 

K.Jack

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Oct 27, 2017
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Dark Space
Are there any released laptops with RTX Super or not yet?
The vanilla RTX 20 cards barely made it into laptops, don't hold your breath.

Is there an Ultrabook with a discrete GPU and ~10 hours of battery life for less than $1200? Ideally with an i7, 16 GB RAM, and 512 GB SSD? I can get a Lenovo Yoga 930 for that price without a GPU, or a Dell XPS 15 with lower specs but I've read that it has thermal issues.
The ASUS ZenBook Pro 15 UX550GE is $1,149.00 ($350 off) right now at B&H Photo. Seems to have everything you want, with ASUS claiming 9 to 9.5 hours of battery.

I'm in the market for a entry level gaming laptop. The system should be able to play newer games with console settings (i'm absolutely fine with the gfx/framerates of my ps4 games) but will mostly be used for Multimedia stuff. How much should the Budget be for my needs? I was thinking around 600€ - 700€ but im willing to up that number if necessary.

Any suggestions?
Give me some links to the online tech stores in your region, and I'll see what I can find.
 

neoak

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Oct 25, 2017
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What kinda results did you see after applying the Kryonaut?
0 throttling, but I had to balance the heatsink with new thermal pads.

14 R4 with 7820HK and 1080 stay at around 70s and 60s deg C respectively. Could even OC the CPU up to 4Ghz.

13 R3 1060/7700HQ, GPU stays at max turbo with 80 deg C, CPU is around 70s.

Toasty, but 0 throttling.
 
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Dylan

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Oct 28, 2017
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Gadzooks, was in the middle of a game and my video cut out. Restarted my laptop and now my GPU is no longer detected by the system. Tried reinstalling the drivers and doing a system restore but neither worked. I can see the 1060 in device manager, but only if I enable "view hidden" and under properties it says the hardware is not connected. Any advice? I'm currently backing up my files in prep for a BIOS flash.

edit: BIOS flash completed successfully but did not revive the GPU. I am so sad. I loved this laptop! RIP.
 
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slamhk

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hi!

I need some advice on buying a new laptop. I'l be switching from a Macbook 17" laptop and I'll switch to windows/linux.
I'm looking for a gaming laptop with:
  1. At least 8750h and RTX 2060 and preferably no thermal throttling,
  2. Ease of upgradeability and replacement (i.e. RAM will be upgraded to 32gb, battery may need to be replaced, place for a 2,5" SATA SSD or additional M.2)
  3. Slim form factor: 15,6" ( I know kinds goes against no thermal throttling, but at least as minimal possible)
  4. Brand reliability (maybe personal anecdotes of how laptop of brand X has been for you)
  5. Product Support (Bios updates, driver support, compatibility with Linux).
I have already done my research on what laptops are of interest for me:
  • Asus Zephyrus Series
    • GX502GW: RTX 2070 ($2399)
    • SCAR III: 9750h, RTX 2070 ($2299)
    • GX531: RTX 2070 ($1999 - sale), but the shifted keyboard is kinda awkward.
  • Gigabyte AERO 15 XA-7US2130SH ($2299)
  • HP 15t ?
Most of the laptops I listed are with a 9750h and upon first glance not a Max-Q gpu, but I've read that there's barely any difference in performance: https://www.notebookcheck.net/That-awkward-moment-when-a-Core-i7-8750H-laptop-can-outperform-a-Core-i7-9750H-laptop.421361.0.html

Which is why I'm conflicted or confused which laptop I should choose. Moreover, how has the laptop brand you've used now been?
Did you ever receive support and how did that experience go.
Also, as undervolting helped in your experience with thermals and is it possible to only use integrated gpu to preserve battery life?

The laptop will be used for gaming as it's my first gaming pc ,but I'm also a university graduate student (I spent most of the time in school or at my desk at home, therefore a desktop pc is really not preferred): I'll be using it for computational modeling ( I need NVIDIA: first time learning cuda).

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! :)