To put it frankly, I feel like if one was going to compare games on different platforms, one should take into account the hardware. Obviously, a fixed console cannot compete with a $2,000 computer in terms of LOD and texture resolution just like the Switch not being able to compete with the current consoles. BotW has extreme framerate issues and because of it's hardware, some people excuses it. That's all I'm saying.
Now compare that to this and its not even close..
Senua's model is the best I've seen this generation. Kratos's armour detail is impressive but next to Senua, the skin shading and eyes aren't really that good. I think its an even bigger achievement for Hellblade since its made by such a small studio and a budget thats probably nowhere close to God of War.
Because it doesn't look like snow.
Even if i were to give you snow deformation (which i personally believe Origin and Horizon is better at).
The actual makeup of the overall snow shader sucks in GOW compared to like ROTR
Starts at 60 seconds (Rise of Tomb Raider Snow Opening Scene)
now compare it to this... now come on don't lie to yourselves, this is clearly clearly night and day.
Here's what a realistic snow shader looks like, similar to what was used in ROTR.
Notice that step 02 is mostly where GOW snow shader ends at. It doesn't even get to Step 04 where SSS is added and then Step 05 which improves on the realism with Light Glitters.
Video of the SSS + Glitterness of the snow
https://vimeo.com/261130998
Phew... I hope this is enough for today.
Because it doesn't look like snow.
Even if i were to give you snow deformation (which i personally believe Origin and Horizon is better at).
The actual makeup of the overall snow shader sucks in GOW compared to like ROTR
Starts at 60 seconds (Rise of Tomb Raider Snow Opening Scene)
now compare it to this... now come on don't lie to yourselves, this is clearly clearly night and day.
Here's what a realistic snow shader looks like, similar to what was used in ROTR.
Notice that step 02 is mostly where GOW snow shader ends at. It doesn't even get to Step 04 where SSS is added and then Step 05 which improves on the realism with Light Glitters.
Video of the SSS + Glitterness of the snow
https://vimeo.com/261130998
Phew... I hope this is enough for today.
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ROTTR looks like shit.
God of War's moves a lot more realistically and has it's own particle / grain system.
Horizon has amazing tech too.
Some of you in here man...
So it comes down to whether the Snow Glints? I thought the argument was about Snow tech?
You ever heard of powder snow? Not all snow has the same density and moisture content.
Senua's model is not the only thing that's pretty in Hellblade.
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ROTTR looks like shit.
God of War's moves a lot more realistically and has it's own particle / grain system.
Horizon has amazing tech too.
Some of you in here man...
Well... I hate to burst your bubble but if you think ROTTR looks like this
You ever heard of powder snow? Not all snow has the same density and moisture content.
Deformation would be the Snow compacting under Kratos's feet, does it leave a footprint etc? Does it melt and leave ground.
Displacement would be what you can clearly see in these gifs. Is the Snow being physically moved from it's original state?
Both God of War and Horizon do this a lot better than ROTTR as seen here.
That applies much more to the console versions or PC version without VXAO. VXAO helps a lot to get rid of the improper indirect lighting glow on many surfaces.
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ROTTR looks like shit.
God of War's moves a lot more realistically and has it's own particle / grain system.
Horizon has amazing tech too.
Some of you in here man...
Well... I hate to burst your bubble but if you think ROTTR looks like this
You're sorely mistaken. It doesn't. Absolutely far from it.
LOL.
- Deformable snow: Rise of the Tomb Raider makes use of deformable snow in a number of locations. This has been achieved using a form of adaptive tessellation paired with normal and height maps. The grid from which the snow is constructed varies geometric density based on camera proximity enabling a smoother mesh during normal gameplay angles. The depth of the snow varies heavily throughout these areas and Lara's animation reacts naturally to the varying conditions. Unfortunately, deformable snow is not utilised in every snowy area. For instance, the mountainous region following the Soviet Installation, is covered in snow - but the majority of it lacks the effect completely. Still, when it works, it's perhaps the best implementation of deformable material we've seen yet.
Materials: Rise of the Tomb Raider has made the jump to a physically-based renderer but the results leave something to be desired. Compared to its contemporaries, the materials in this game simply lack the realism we've come to expect. While cloth, snow, and ice are convincing enough, much of the stone and wood work just don't work for us. Indirect lighting conditions often appear unnatural, despite the reliance on image based light probes, and specular highlights behave in an unrealistic fashion
The bolded alone tells me you have no idea what brainchild was discussing in that thread. And to call him a hypocrite is just bizarre.
That's actually a nice comparison with GOW. They really do look alike in the quality of materials. I would say that they both look too dry, if that makes any sense? Earlier in the thread i already noted that Kratos's skin looks like rubber, and not actual skin. The same problem is also present in Fallout 4. It is PBR, and it looks very detailed, but it does not look like actual skin, which are things Hellblade, HZD, Uncharted clearly do a better job at.
Its a forbidden comment, but i geniunely believe that some of such commentary is done by people who simply do not understand what they arguing about. Its not without reason why, whenever ill edit your analysis, i stick a note in the beginning of a thread detailing that what is about to come is highly technical.
Now i have read it all :/ What is it with folks having an endless appetite to downplay any random game to absurdity with statements like this? Its like trying to make sense of a Smokepurpp song - You can't, so why make this statement of pure hyperbole in the first place? Its absolutely sillywag levels of what?
Cool, no worries. Tech knowledge is limited I admit.
No sorry, shit was a very poor choice. I'll edit it out because it does look a little bit baity and downplays ROTTR snow tech.
that Gif is amazing.Bro you can't be serious this doesn't look good at all. GOW and HZD look so much better than this.
I have to say though that all you guys coming in here with technical specs with games and not being able to see stuff like this and admit that it looks just phenomenal
Is kind of sad.
GOW looks so so insanely good.
Do I think the Division and Unity look amazing on a PC Rig maxed out?
Yes.
Do I think they look holy shit amazing like this above?
No
Do I give a shit that there isn't some type of specific tech you guys get all hot and bothered by on Krato's eyeball in this scene?
No
Do I wish Kratos had a bit higher polygon count because his arms aren't flexing enough with his veins popping out?
No
It actually makes me feel sad for you guys.
Oh Yeah, water in Sea of Thieves and AC:O is pretty darn amazing. Comparatively, HZD and GoW look fucking dreadful in comparison.
