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Gazillion fires all employees today; shutting Marvel Heroes down early (this Friday, not 12/31)
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The guy who became CEO after David Brevik left is apparently a real piece of shit, and I'm just assuming he will fail upwards because that's what scumbag executives do.
Not the consumers problem
Oh yeah that's entertainment for you
This is terrible and I feel no schadenfreude. It's not good for anyone.
For decades now, when you buy a game you legally agree to accept it "as-is", though your retailer or payment service may give you avenues to refund or re-sell should you want to. Is there a general legal provision for purchases explicitly made for unspent game "credits"? Or have you paid for a service you agree can be terminated at any time?
For decades now, when you buy a game you legally agree to accept it "as-is", though your retailer or payment service may give you avenues to refund or re-sell should you want to. Is there a general legal provision for purchases explicitly made for unspent game "credits"? Or have you paid for a service you agree can be terminated at any time?
Can probably ask him. His wife still probably streams random games on twitch with him, and they talk about a lot of stuff freely, especially if he drank a bit of scotch.
How am I not able to find his twerk gif? <3 the Breviks.
Going off sheer memory, I think a company needs to have a minimum of 100 FT employees, and at least 50 in a particular location, for federal law to apply and make it illegal to close down without warning.
My numbers could be off naturally, i haven't read the labor site in awhile.
Sony can "die in a fire" over the OP's friend's $90? They have nothing to do with Gazillion shutting down. Grow up.
This fucking sucks, I played abit of Marvel Heroes a year or so back and always intended to get back into it. When I first heard about the intial closure I was bummed but this is just a horrible thing to do for both the employees and the people/communities playing the game :(
Wow that really sucks, what if someone just bought the game some weeks ago? They definitely need to do some kind of refund.
Just to be clear, Gazillion had a lot of employees who worked their asses off and cared about the community. Blame Dohrmann, not the entire studio.
How to ruin your employees' Thanksgiving in one easy step. That is some scummy decision right there. Hope everyone lands on their feet.
I was so, so, so tempted to buy some heroes to play this.
Fortunately, I didn't find the button-mashing gameplay all appealing, so I deleted the game.
Fortunately, I didn't find the button-mashing gameplay all appealing, so I deleted the game.
All the best to the folks that lost their jobs today. Getting laid off before the holidays and without PTO pay (as well losing medical coverage) is beyond terrible.
Also, aren't there labor laws in California to prevent this? Something that makes it so that wages that are owed to you are ultimately paid out? Gazillion didn't declare bankruptcy, did they?
Also, aren't there labor laws in California to prevent this? Something that makes it so that wages that are owed to you are ultimately paid out? Gazillion didn't declare bankruptcy, did they?
Man that sucks so bad. I hate hearing about people losing their jobs, especially when it happens suddenly. I've been on the receiving end of that stick too many times to count, especially working in the gaming industry.
Wishing all of them the best, and hopefully they're able to land on their feet and find gigs elsewhere.
Wishing all of them the best, and hopefully they're able to land on their feet and find gigs elsewhere.
Washington state in the US. I asked what he did and he just immediately asked for escalation.
Feel bad for Anthony Gallegos, and his dog that has cancer, and the rest of the employees that went out in the worst possible way in this scenario. Fuck all of the execs involved in this whole series of decisions.
I was looking forward to all of the heroes going free and getting time to play a bunch more of it before it went away for good next month. Now I'll have to pop in tonight or tomorrow just to see it off.
I was looking forward to all of the heroes going free and getting time to play a bunch more of it before it went away for good next month. Now I'll have to pop in tonight or tomorrow just to see it off.
It's a free to play game. You can't buy the game, just spend money on microtransactions.
Sony's costumer support has always been such a shitshow. It's still hilarious they can get away with that oldskool bad service of telling outright no, while other companies do offer a solution in same situations (Microsoft does refund in this case).
About the fired devs part it's quite sad to do so before the holidays and how it's done is very scummy. That CEO is such a pos. Hopefully the employees can land quickly on their feet and find a new job.
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This. I used to be big into achievements and was a 100% completionist, but even I wouldnt walk into a thread about people losing their jobs right b4 the holidays with a "whew! got my 1k, dodged a bullet there!". What a shitty, shitty post.
I pray the employees saw the writing on the wall and had plans in place. I pray none of the more vulnerable ones consider doing anything rash. This time of year suicide rates go up, and something like this can be the proverbial straw. I pray their families and friends step in and support them and try to bring cheer in spite of this.
Edit: Saw your post saying you didnt mean to be flippant. Ok man, but next time maybe consider that someone who just lost their job might be reading the thread amd put yourself in their shoes. Condolences (while hollow being on the internet) and outrage against the CEO/company might be appreciated, posts like that would likely not be. It comes off as insensitive at the very least.
Sony should make an one time exception and refund anyone who purchased Marvel Heroes and especially considering that the devs are shutting down early.
Why can't they just refund it no problem? Is PlayStation customer support really that inept? I'm not sure tweeting at Shuhei or anyone from Sony will do anything but you never know.
Wow, didn't know that MS was that fast on solving problems.
Would be great is Sony follows their example.
MS has been, for the most part, very good about refunds on digital purchases for several years now when there is a valid reason. Their official policy is no refunds on digital, but they make exceptions regularly when warranted. Of course sometimes you still get a CSR who gives you grief or wont do it, but overall those experiences seem to be in the minority in cases where there is a valid reason for requesting the refund.
Realistically, Sony may never get the money back from Gazillion if they do that.
For what reason should Sony give Gazillion more credit when banks find them too much of a credit risk?
I understand that and by that logic neither would Microsoft get the money back from Gazillion. But why would Microsoft go ahead and do it and Sony wouldn't? Microsoft wouldn't get anything out of it and would lose money too with issuing a refund.
This is just a basic customer support response. Sony can look like heroes (no pun intended) if they do the same thing as Microsoft.
I don't know. I'm not privy to either of their customer contract language.
Maybe Microsoft doesn't realize that company suddenly went out of business on a holiday week, or there was a credit on the Gazillion account to cover refunds, or they have a bigger expected bad debt expense in their budget than sony.
But getting mad at these other vendors is misplaced anger, really.
Maybe Microsoft doesn't realize that company suddenly went out of business on a holiday week, or there was a credit on the Gazillion account to cover refunds, or they have a bigger expected bad debt expense in their budget than sony.
But getting mad at these other vendors is misplaced anger, really.
ZeoVGM I'm fairly certain that Sony and probably others have a clause for cases like these. Honestly I haven't read the thread, but if this is an online only game and from the sounds of it it is, then there's a clause that says a shutdown of the game services must be announced 3 months in advance. Should be in the psn store where you buy the game. If this clause isn't fulfilled you - or your friend have a right to compensation. You'll just have to check if this clause actually is in effect for this game.
Otherwise, idk, don't buy games from shady publishers in the future to avoid things like this maybe. This isn't "victim shaming" btw, it's your or your friends money and if your money is important to you, you have to do some research before investing or just have some common sense really.
Tldr, kinda sounds like the NMS scenario where most people got refunded (even if for slightly different reasons)
PS: the game was out on pc for several years already? That's certainly quite strange then, definitely check the psn store if it says something about the announcement of a shutdown - it's really like a standard clause and most or all games I ever checked about this had it.
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Bet they were planning their last few paychecks leading up to the 31st.....what a shitty thing to have happen the day before thanksgiving.