Gears for Breakfast: "A Hat in Time is not coming to the Switch."

Tsukinopio · Feb 11, 2018

MOD EDIT:

Nibel said:
Please refrain from generalizations and console warrior rhetoric, thank you *tips hat*

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While they are under no obligation to release their game on Nintendo's console, I find it distasteful to have used Nintendo fans during the Kickstarter process only to completely disregard them after the fact. They teased a potential Wii U version during their fundraising in order to entice Nintendo fans into committing to the Kickstarter. Since then, there has been radio silence followed by outright condescension/dismissal.

Ionic · Feb 11, 2018

Has anybody else brought an Unreal Engine 3 game to Switch yet? I just don't know how feasible it is for a developer to do that if there's no precedent.

ILikeFeet · Feb 11, 2018

Ionic said:
Has anybody else brought an Unreal Engine 3 game to Switch yet? I just don't know how feasible it is for a developer to do that if there's no precedent.

Rocket League is UE3

Black_Red · Feb 11, 2018

Tsukinopio said:
While they are under no obligation to release their game on Nintendo's console, I find it distasteful to have used Nintendo fans during the Kickstarter process only to completely disregard them after the fact. They teased a potential Wii U version during their fundraising in order to entice Nintendo fans into committing to the Kickstarter. Since then, there has been radio silence followed by outright condescension/dismissal.

Well, he can release where he wants, but a switch version would sell really well.

Ionic · Feb 11, 2018

ILikeFeet said:
Rocket League is UE3

I see. Then they ought to see if they'll lend some notes on porting UE3 to Switch. This is the kind of game that Switch owners would eat up.

Cinemikel · Feb 11, 2018

Tsukinopio said:
While they are under no obligation to release their game on Nintendo's console, I find it distasteful to have used Nintendo fans during the Kickstarter process only to completely disregard them after the fact. They teased a potential Wii U version during their fundraising in order to entice Nintendo fans into committing to the Kickstarter. Since then, there has been radio silence followed by outright condescension/dismissal.

I wonder if the game was even successful with how little I ever heard of the game. Strange they would ignore the most obvious platformer and indie explosion market. Do they not like money or are they just moving on from A Hat in Time?

ILikeFeet · Feb 11, 2018

Cinemikel said:
I wonder if the game was even successful with how little I ever heard of the game. Strange they would ignore the most obvious platformer and indie explosion market. Do they not like money or are they just moving on from A Hat in Time?

I suspect there might be more politics than anything else

JakeD · Feb 11, 2018

This game runs like crap on my ps4. It doesn't even run that well on my 970 pc. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say these guys couldn't get it running on a Switch even if they wanted to. And I'm sure they want to cause it would be a money tree for a game like this

Phil32 · Feb 11, 2018

Cinemikel said:
I wonder if the game was even successful with how little I ever heard of the game. Strange they would ignore the most obvious platformer and indie explosion market. Do they not like money or are they just moving on from A Hat in Time?

Was the game made in UE3 and does the Switch support that? And if so, would it be feasible for a small team with a low budget to put the amount of work necessary to do a Switch port?

Not being confrontational. I seriously don't know. I thought the game was made in an engine the Switch doesn't support.

RROCKMAN · Feb 11, 2018

Wooooooow

A new low indeed

CenturionNami · Feb 11, 2018

Looks awesome! Really excited!

Arthoneceron · Feb 11, 2018

Tsukinopio said:

Odyssey made me look with disdain for mostly of the 3D platforms. It's their loss, and it's not a big thing for the Switch owners.

Cinemikel · Feb 11, 2018

Phil32 said:
Was the game made in UE3 and does the Switch support that? And if so, would it be feasible for a small team with a low budget to put the amount of work necessary to do a Switch port?

Not being confrontational. I seriously don't know. I thought the game was made in an engine the Switch doesn't support.

That's a good point I haven't thought of, that might be a big one. And no worries lol I didn't think you were being confrontational, just a normal conversation

gordofredito · Feb 11, 2018

saying the game isn't good just because it isn't coming to the Switch is hypocritical and dumb, the game is phenomenal. Just because it isn't coming to the Switch doesn't mean you should hate on it

It's no Mario Odyssey but it's as close as it gets, especially considering it's an indie title with less than 1/4th the budget. It has a lot of charm as well, strongly recommended

Tsukinopio · Feb 11, 2018

Phil32 said:
Was the game made in UE3 and does the Switch support that? And if so, would it be feasible for a small team with a low budget to put the amount of work necessary to do a Switch port?

Not being confrontational. I seriously don't know. I thought the game was made in an engine the Switch doesn't support.

Yes. Rocket League is UE3.

B4mv · Feb 11, 2018

Wasn't RL ported by an outside development studio? I highly doubt Gears For Breakfast can afford something like that. RL prints money. A Hat In Time certainly does not.

Phil32 · Feb 11, 2018

Tsukinopio said:
Yes. Rocket League is UE3.

That goes to the latter half of my initial post that B4mv, in the poster's own words, also brought up as a concern or thought I had.

CloseTalker · Feb 11, 2018

Tsukinopio said:

I bet so many community managers wish they could talk to their communities like that haha. At least they aren't leaving you curious.

It would be super dickish if a Switch version was soon announced though.

B4mv · Feb 11, 2018

Sorry, wasn't really following your conversation, just adding to the fact.

For what it's worth, I'd love for a switch release, but my 1060 got me through just fine, and I've already completed the game, so really not necessary for me.

Phil32 · Feb 11, 2018

B4mv said:
Sorry, wasn't really following your conversation, just adding to the fact.

For what it's worth, I'd love for a switch release, but my 1060 got me through just fine, and I've already completed the game, so really not necessary for me.

Oh, you didn't do anything wrong! You actually made it so I didn't have to type as much to my second post! :D

c0Zm1c · Feb 11, 2018

JakeD said:
This game runs like crap on my ps4. It doesn't even run that well on my 970 pc. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say these guys couldn't get it running on a Switch even if they wanted to. And I'm sure they want to cause it would be a money tree for a game like this

At what resolution? At 1920x1080 it runs at a locked 60fps on my GTX 780 at maximum settings.

Giudecca · Feb 11, 2018

As others have said, the Switch doesn't support UE3, which the game is running on. The Rocket League folks had to hire a team specifically to port the game over, and could do so because the game has sold literally millions of copies.

Cinemikel said:
I wonder if the game was even successful with how little I ever heard of the game. Strange they would ignore the most obvious platformer and indie explosion market. Do they not like money or are they just moving on from A Hat in Time?

SteamSpy lists the copies sold at 100K, which is actually not bad at all for a indie Kickstarter game. People just don't talk about it here because of the JonTron controversy. It sucks too because it's a legitimately good 3D platformer unlike Yooka Laylee (sorry, Yooka Laylee fans).

SinCityAssassin · Feb 11, 2018

Giudecca said:
SteamSpy lists the copies sold at 100K, which is actually not bad at all for a indie Kickstarter game. People just don't talk about it here because of the JonTron controversy.

Its lack of general mindspace would not be because of that whole thing, but because it released on the tail end of two very hyped up indie titles (Cuphead and Steamworld Dig 2) as well as in the general area of Super Mario Odyssey. Even if they made money back in the end, it's hard to position yourself in that release window. Sales didn't go above 75k until the console ports released.

Silky · Feb 11, 2018

Giudecca said:
SteamSpy lists the copies sold at 100K, which is actually not bad at all for a indie Kickstarter game. People just don't talk about it here because of the JonTron controversy. It sucks too because it's a legitimately good 3D platformer unlike Yooka Laylee (sorry, Yooka Laylee fans).

Lead behind the game's a general shithead and has been since their TF2 modding years, i wasnt gonna buy Hat in Time from that dude regardless

Deleted member 28386 · Feb 11, 2018

I had been really hoping for a Switch version but the reasons for it not coming short of a total rehaul makes sense to me, so no complaints on that end. If I'm buying the PC version instead I'll just wait til its dirt cheap on sale in the future. I'm in no rush.

fiendcode · Feb 12, 2018

Giudecca said:
As others have said, the Switch doesn't support UE3, which the game is running on. The Rocket League folks had to hire a team specifically to port the game over, and could do so because the game has sold literally millions of copies.

I was under the impression none of the 3 current consoles had official UE3 support and that Epic directed devs to use UE4. Wii U and Vita were the last platforms I remember getting UE3 officially announced for them.

Also, Rocket League was ported by the same company (Panic Button) on both Xbox One and Switch, plus they also took over PS4 support and updates (including creating the PS4 Pro build) for Psyonix. It's not as if an outside developer was hired specifically for the Switch version there.

Shibata100 · Feb 12, 2018

Was waiting on Switch announcement. looks like it's time to invest in PS4 version then.

NekoNeko · Feb 12, 2018

gordofredito said:
It's no Mario Odyssey but it's as close as it gets,

nononono. i can't let that stand. it's miles and miles away from something like odyssey. i really wanted to like it and i know they don't have nearly the budget but it's nowhere near a 3D mario game.

Sander VF · Feb 12, 2018

Tsukinopio said:
While they are under no obligation to release their game on Nintendo's console, I find it distasteful to have used Nintendo fans during the Kickstarter process only to completely disregard them after the fact. They teased a potential Wii U version during their fundraising in order to entice Nintendo fans into committing to the Kickstarter. Since then, there has been radio silence followed by outright condescension/dismissal.

What's with the developer's attitude?

megaStryke · Feb 12, 2018

Sander VF said:
What's with the developer's attitude?

More frustration at hearing the same comments over and over and over again than anything else. I remember he was a bit more gung ho about the prospects of a Switch port when the console was released, but it seems like to many roadblocks wouldn't make it feasible. Now he has to deal with the annoying peanut gallery.

NekoNeko · Feb 12, 2018

whenever you can be snarky to your fanbase when they want to give you their money, you gotta do it.

Sander VF · Feb 12, 2018

Wait, was this thread spun off from the other one?

cw_sasuke · Feb 12, 2018

Wasnt this known ?
I think they should have at least tried to bring it on Switch...but it sounds like they wont do it at this point because they are pissed so many people asked or even demanded it lol.

Turin Turambar · Feb 12, 2018

Cinemikel said:
I wonder if the game was even successful with how little I ever heard of the game. Strange they would ignore the most obvious platformer and indie explosion market. Do they not like money or are they just moving on from A Hat in Time?

It's a small team, I think with the units the sold on pc (122K units) they already did a profit.

(and the guy could be a bit more polite in his tweets)

FiXalaS · Feb 12, 2018

megaStryke said:
More frustration at hearing the same comments over and over and over again than anything else. I remember he was a bit more gung ho about the prospects of a Switch port when the console was released, but it seems like to many roadblocks wouldn't make it feasible. Now he has to deal with the annoying peanut gallery.

better to not reply then. :/ Just say it once that you aren't bringing it for whatever reasons.

a lot of devs are getting hammered with this, but this is a first for me to see someone replying with such an attitude.

Its their loss, Its obvious the audience on Switch would buy the game but what do I know.

GrrImAFridge · Feb 12, 2018

Sander VF said:
Wait, was this thread spun off from the other one?

Yeah. This is actually the first time I've used the "Copy posts" feature. Verdict: neat.jpg.

Mory Dunz · Feb 12, 2018

ok, that's fine...don't see an issue.

How did they entice wii U owners.
I remember this game from years ago, did they promise it on Wii U?

Yukinari · Feb 12, 2018

Giudecca said:
As others have said, the Switch doesn't support UE3, which the game is running on. The Rocket League folks had to hire a team specifically to port the game over, and could do so because the game has sold literally millions of copies.

SteamSpy lists the copies sold at 100K, which is actually not bad at all for a indie Kickstarter game. People just don't talk about it here because of the JonTron controversy. It sucks too because it's a legitimately good 3D platformer unlike Yooka Laylee (sorry, Yooka Laylee fans).

The game did get quite a bit of promotion during the beta and final release from youtubers/streamers. The creator and Jontron definitely lowered its sales potential.

Godzilla's Left Toe · Feb 12, 2018

So what are they doing with that Switch dev kit they got a couple months back then?

Zalman · Feb 12, 2018

It's totally fine, but the attitude at display is off-putting to say the least.

Inuhanyou · Feb 12, 2018

Tsukinopio said:
While they are under no obligation to release their game on Nintendo's console, I find it distasteful to have used Nintendo fans during the Kickstarter process only to completely disregard them after the fact.

"used nintendo fans". If referencing an old nintendo game console is "using nintendo fans", i would have thought people would have been more livid when Undertale didnt come to Switch considering it takes inspiration from Mother a lot.

These guys have various reason they have stated they are not porting to switch. They have gotten tons of crap on twitter and elsewhere just because they have stated they had made that decision, and i would be angry and tired repeating myself too if i had to be the one on twitter as a developer fielding shitty comments.

Speevy · Feb 12, 2018

It's their decision and regardless of the reason, I'm sure they hate losing the revenue.

YuriCloud3 · Feb 12, 2018

I'm fine with the ps4 version. Awesome game.

Acquiescence · Feb 12, 2018

Sounds like he's just had enough of overbearing Switch acolytes. To the point where he's actively spiting them.

Ja- · Feb 12, 2018

Zalman said:
It's totally fine, but the attitude at display is off-putting to say the least.

They probably get the same question everyday

Eumi · Feb 12, 2018

I can't believe how many people are taking this personally.

The game runs bad on PS4 and you need to come up with conspiracy theories to attempt to explain why it isn't coming to a far weaker console?

hjort · Feb 12, 2018

No Switch version, bad attitude in his replies and no denouncing of Jontron. Well, that makes this pretty easy for me to get over.

ThroughtheVoid · Feb 12, 2018

He seems like a bit of an asshat from them screens if I'm being fair.

Also, it not coming to Switch is no big deal, there is other fantastic platformers on the console.

requiem · Feb 12, 2018

All they had to say was "no, sorry".

Datajoy · Feb 12, 2018

Kind of a douchey reply tbh

Gears for Breakfast: "A Hat in Time is not coming to the Switch."

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