Gender divide: Peru, Panama limit men and women to alternate days out to stall virus

AcademicSaucer · Apr 2, 2020

Peru and Panama both started on Thursday limiting the times men and women can leave their homes in an attempt to slow the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.

Amid a strict quarantine in Peru, President Martin Vizcarra said on Thursday that men and women will only be allowed to leave their homes on designated days divided by gender.

On Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays only men will be able to leave their homes to stock up. Women can go out on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Nobody will be allowed to leave home on Sunday.

"We have to get fewer people to be on the streets every day," Vizcarra said in a virtual news conference with his cabinet of ministers and experts.

Vizcarra said it was easier for security forces to monitor the circulation of men and women to enforce the quarantine order, rather than using serial numbers of identity documents to divide up days, which some other countries have done.

He said the new measure, which will be in place until April 12, would not impact people who have an emergency or are authorized to work during the quarantine, such as those in essential food production, pharmacies and banks

Gender divide: Peru, Panama limit men and women to alternate days out to stall virus

Peru and Panama both started on Thursday limiting the times men and women can leave their homes in an attempt to slow the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.

www.reuters.com

randomhugs · Apr 2, 2020

Is this a good idea? This seems like more like a stop-gap.

Baccus · Apr 2, 2020

Completely unecessary and sexist.

Einchy · Apr 2, 2020

randomhugs said:
Is this a good idea? This seems like more like a stop-gap.

Even with a full lockdown, people still need to go buy groceries. This seems like a good idea to at least half that.

Hexa · Apr 2, 2020

" Vizcarra said it was easier for security forces to monitor the circulation of men and women to enforce the quarantine order, rather than using serial numbers of identity documents to divide up days, which some other countries have done. "

What countries are doing this? It does sound simpler though.

AcademicSaucer · Apr 2, 2020

Einchy said:
Even with a full lockdown, people still need to go buy groceries. This seems like a good idea to at least half that.

yep, people need to go out to buy food and medicines.

darkwing · Apr 2, 2020

this is not a bad idea at all

Deleted member 19533 · Apr 2, 2020

Baccus said:
Completely unecessary and sexist.

Sexist in what way and against who? Is it alternating sexist? Like one day is sexist against men and the next is against women?

Hollywood Duo · Apr 2, 2020

Baccus said:
Completely unecessary and sexist.

Seems fine on the surface. 50% reduction in people going out.

Fj0823 · Apr 2, 2020

Hexa said:
" Vizcarra said it was easier for security forces to monitor the circulation of men and women to enforce the quarantine order, rather than using serial numbers of identity documents to divide up days, which some other countries have done. "

What countries are doing this? It does sound simpler though.

Here in Costa Rica, last number of your car plate.

Omegamon · Apr 2, 2020

Baccus said:
Completely unecessary and sexist.

Going outside without men harrasing you or being shitty in general is the dream.

Bedameister · Apr 2, 2020

Baccus said:
Completely unecessary and sexist.

Completely necessary and not sexist at all

exodus · Apr 2, 2020

Seems odd, but makes sense from a mathematical and enforcement standpoint.

giancarlo123x · Apr 2, 2020

Interesting. Curious to see how it works out for my family in peru.

DonNadie · Apr 2, 2020

This is... actually not a bad idea.

skeptem · Apr 2, 2020

It comes down to simplicity. Trying to use an overly complicated wa of keeping people in would lead to miscommunication and confusion.

Drain You · Apr 2, 2020

Yea I don't really see a problem with this.

collige · Apr 2, 2020

Enbies never get to go outside again

Malleymal · Apr 2, 2020

When I first heard about this I was like wtf that is stupid, then it hit me that this is better than what we did with gas after sandy and only allowed even and odd number license plates on certain days.

this is a great idea

Kyuuji · Apr 2, 2020

collige said:
Enbies never get to go outside again

We just float around ethereally on whichever day we please.

Rosebud · Apr 2, 2020

I hope trans have their gender respected.

But non-binary are in a weird spot.

Lishi · Apr 2, 2020

It's like enforcing the car plate number for the car.

One day only odd, one day only even.

I don't see why is sexist.

Sunster · Apr 2, 2020

if it works it works

Mazuve1234 · Apr 2, 2020

Peruvian's president has also said that the goverment will be inclusive and that homophobic acts won't be permitted.

squallmx · Apr 2, 2020

I'm OK with this. Fair is fair.

Immortan · Apr 2, 2020

What if a son needs to go out with his mother because she doesn't or can't go drive or walk well and needs help. Does she then go out with only her female friends who are also the same age with the same problems?

Cation · Apr 2, 2020

Wow this kinda was genius.

Rosebud said:
I hope trans have their gender respected.

But non-binary are in a weird spot.

Yep, it def can be problematic if this isn't respected.

it's not a perfect solution, but it significantly helps out in limiting how many get out/day

Rosebud · Apr 2, 2020

Lishi said:
It's like enforcing the car plate number for the car.

One day only odd, one day only even.

I don't see why is sexist.

Numbers on your document would be fine. But imagine being called out because you don't look like your gender.

Phabh · Apr 2, 2020

BlueBomberX said:
Sexist in what way and against who? Is it alternating sexist? Like one day is sexist against men and the next is against women?

I loled.

Lishi · Apr 2, 2020

Rosebud said:
Numbers on your document would be fine. But imagine being called out because you don't look like your gender.

I can see the your point.
But this is simple and require no close contact the normal option would require and much faster.

Plus imagine if they don't have an national id? I'm pretty sure that is not issue with a sane country, but who know.

Rosebud · Apr 2, 2020

Cation said:
Wow this kinda was genius.

Yep, it def can be problematic if this isn't respected.

it's not a perfect solution, but it significantly helps out in limiting how many get out/day

Lishi said:
I can see the your point.
But this is simple and require no close contact the normal option would require and much faster.

Plus imagine if they don't have an national id? I'm pretty sure that is not issue with a sane country, but who know.

Yeah I totally understand. Need to reduce people on street ASAP

Infcabbage · Apr 2, 2020

Sounds good on paper, but gender nonconforming and people who don't pass as the gender they identify with are gonna get fucked over so hard by this.

JG_Lionheart · Apr 2, 2020

I currently live in Panama and IIRC, they number they floated around in the news today is that it helped reducing traffic in 35%. Bear in mind, the way the number of cases were piling up in this 4 million country was starting to speed up. It helps that we're doing a LOT of testing so at least the numbers are more reliable than say (no disrespect) a country like Nicaragua which is barely doing any testing at all.

They were actually considering reducing the Quarantine to only be able to go out once a week for groceries and essentials so this feels kinda like a stop gap.

JG_Lionheart · Apr 2, 2020

Infcabbage said:
Sounds good on paper, but gender nonconforming and people who don't pass as the gender they identify with are gonna get fucked over so hard by this.

Also you have no idea how many memes this has caused. This is still a VERY sexist society (like most LATAM countries I presume...except for Costa Rica?).

Sanjuro · Apr 2, 2020

On Women's day...

Sabretooth · Apr 2, 2020

Hah! You can't get me, I'm genderfluid!

QuinchoOsito · Apr 3, 2020

JG_Lionheart said:
It helps that we're doing a LOT of testing so at least the numbers are more reliable than say (no disrespect) a country like Nicaragua which is barely doing any testing at all.

Nica living in the US here, no disrespect taken, the Ortega administration deserves every bit of criticism it gets for its pathetic response to this pandemic (not to mention everything else from the last few years)

Rosebud said:
I hope trans have their gender respected.

But non-binary are in a weird spot.

I am also worried about this, but I still think it's overall a good idea and a better idea than doing it based on ID/license plate numbers or something else like that. I just hope that individuals aren't targeted for "looking like the wrong gender", and that cops/government officials gauge the responses of communities instead of harassing individuals based on how they look.

Deleted member 36578 · Apr 3, 2020

I honestly don't like this idea at all. It rubs me the wrong way.

Einchy · Apr 3, 2020

brokeastronaut said:
I honestly don't like this idea at all. It rubs me the wrong way.

Reducing the amount of people that are moving about by 50% and thus significantly reducing the spread of Covid19 v not doing it 'cus it rubs someone the wrong way.

JG_Lionheart · Apr 3, 2020

QuinchoOsito theyre doing both. last number of your ID or passport + gender. Your id no. determines the hour and the gender the day.

hateradio · Apr 3, 2020

Seems like an easy way to cut down on the people on the street. I don't find it particularly sexist, but it is discriminating the sexes although they're both equal.

bangai-o · Apr 3, 2020

I was recently wondering why couples go to the grocery store right now when just one of them can go. Then some are even taking the kids. The kids may be mostly be immune to this, but they spread that shit.

jett · Apr 3, 2020

Unfortunately too many dipshits have been breaking curfew here in Peru despite so many of them getting arrested, and in Panama as well. We were making progress but in the last few days the number of cases has been increasing considerably. By the end of next week it will be one month of this lockdown and honestly I can't deal with this shit anymore. I hope this works and they start easing these restrictions.

Clu said:
What if a son needs to go out with his mother because she doesn't or can't go drive or walk well and needs help. Does she then go out with only her female friends who are also the same age with the same problems?

The answer is obvious, the son will have to go out alone to buy groceries or medication.

And people can't drive here anymore unless you provide an essential service.

Zellia · Apr 3, 2020

As has been pointed out, there need to be provisions for enbies and non-passing trans people, otherwise this is discriminatory.

Aztechnology · Apr 3, 2020

Is it just because it's easier/immediate and somewhat enforceable compared to a lottery? It's actually in some ways brilliant in it's simplicity.

exodus · Apr 3, 2020

Rosebud said:
I hope trans have their gender respected.

But non-binary are in a weird spot.

There's still a gender on your ID I assume. Use whatever is on there, regardless of what your assumed gender is. It's really not about discrimination.

AcademicSaucer · Apr 3, 2020

JG_Lionheart said:
QuinchoOsito theyre doing both. last number of your ID or passport + gender. Your id no. determines the hour and the gender the day.

That seems hard to enforce

jett · Apr 3, 2020

A girl was walking her dog this morning, I guess she didn't give a single fuck.

No female shoppers at the grocery store though.

JG_Lionheart · Apr 3, 2020

jett said:
A girl was walking her dog this morning, I guess she didn't give a single fuck.

No female shoppers at the grocery store though.

Well at least it wasn't like that couple that gave a fuck about the Lockdown and had their wedding party anyways over here.

AcademicSaucer · Apr 10, 2020

This is no longer the case in Peru because there were way more women going to buy groceries in their days than men in theirs.

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