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George Carlin is trending in new political ad.
- Thread starter fluffydelusions
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Is the message that voting for Biden will fix some of this, or is it just satisfying venting, just like the HBO comedy hour this is from?
Haha, yep. That's the only problem I have with the ad is it's far too focused on Republicans when obviously they are the worst political party but there is no doubt that most of the Democratic party needs to be put on blast as well.
This might be have been made to take down Trump but it's gonna enable morons who like to yell at the top of their lungs that both parties are the same and it's all doom and glloom. Which is just a shallow excuse for political apathetism and not voting, usually to be a contrarian.
I would say there there is a time for criticism of the entire political process in the US, it just isn't right now.
I'm pretty much over that kind of broad, systemic criticism. I think it ended up working for the nutcase right (Alex Jones, pizzagate, Qanon etc.) more than the left, and Trump even presented himself as an outsider of the system that would "drain the swamp".
I don't know much about George Carlin though, but that's not the kind of message I'd use to encourage people to vote for Biden rather than Trump.
I don't know much about George Carlin though, but that's not the kind of message I'd use to encourage people to vote for Biden rather than Trump.
I knew what this ad was going to be the moment I saw the thread title
Because people are often ignorant of systemic issues?
The former is the implication
Agreed completley.
You can disagree with Carlin, but this is using his words to promote something he explicitly didn't believe in.
George Carlin leads to QAnon is a take, that's for sure.
Carlin's speech is operating on a completely different level than the purpose of the ad.
but I'm kinda oh well on it, anything to get this fascist fuck out of office
but I'm kinda oh well on it, anything to get this fascist fuck out of office
He was a prophet. You should watch his comedy concerts. Last I checked they are still on Amazon Video. He is funny as shit and often gets political. Its clear he hates Republicans.
I kind of wonder how well this will work. Many of these people already think Carlin tells it like it is - in their favour. Most of what he is talking about is politicians which are not what Trump people think they voted for. Yeah, he mentions businessmen but they view Trump as an outlier. I doubt they would correlate what is being said to what is being shown. I can totally see how this might have the opposite effect and fire people up more FOR Trump.
Like, look at all these images of people you support, those democratic politician elite dick heads are trying to keep you from those people and what they want for you. Showing stuff like a bunch of confederate idiots holding guns in front of a flag or Trump kissing a baby or hugging the flag or something while sarcastically saying "home of the brave, land of the free". They likely aren't going to look at that as stupid propaganda like we would even with scary music over it. They are hearing words they like to hear and seeing people they like to see.
Remember, many of these people thought Stephen Colbert was a real conservative pundit and not doing it sarcastically.
Like, look at all these images of people you support, those democratic politician elite dick heads are trying to keep you from those people and what they want for you. Showing stuff like a bunch of confederate idiots holding guns in front of a flag or Trump kissing a baby or hugging the flag or something while sarcastically saying "home of the brave, land of the free". They likely aren't going to look at that as stupid propaganda like we would even with scary music over it. They are hearing words they like to hear and seeing people they like to see.
Remember, many of these people thought Stephen Colbert was a real conservative pundit and not doing it sarcastically.
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Meh I don't like this ad. I don't think George Carlin's brand of know nothing cynicism is a compelling political argument at least for responsible government. It works as an anti-government, "drain the swamp" populism or "don't tread on me" libertarianism.
Cynicism and nihilism is what produces demagogues like Donald Trump and Victor Orban and Vladimir Putin. You tell everybody that they're owned, they have no agency, no control, it creates a sense of hopelessness that a demagogue like trump walks into to cheering masses, because he's from "outside the system"
Cynicism and nihilism is what produces demagogues like Donald Trump and Victor Orban and Vladimir Putin. You tell everybody that they're owned, they have no agency, no control, it creates a sense of hopelessness that a demagogue like trump walks into to cheering masses, because he's from "outside the system"
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Exactly. The mix of clips of Jeff Bezos only reinforces this idea. Maga hat wearing people see Bezos and think: corrupt far leftist liberal San Francisco elitist who publishes anti-Trump lies in the Washington Post, an extremist anarchist leftist rag filled with fake news.
The audio from this is political stupidity. It's a more compelling argument for the conservative right than it is for the liberal left. If you believe that government has a role in making a more just society, this video isn't going to get you there.
Everyone here does. Though I get the impression some may not agree with him?
And I'm sure those who made the ad understand his intent, too, but just don't give a fuck.
Trump is in some ways an aberration, or at least the worst (so far) manifestation of a broken system, so it would have been interesting to hear Carlin's take on him.
Yep, pretty much. He would despise being used in any political messaging. He didn't hate any particular party, he hated the system.
Yup. Regardless of what you think people should do (vote, not vote, call out one party, call out both parties...), that ad is such a misrepresentation of Carlin's beliefs. He'd probably hate that a party uses his words in the first place.
He didn't hate the Republicans specifically (though IIRC his politics leaned more to the left in general). He didn't hate "the bad ones". He hated the establishment and the system as a whole. The two-party system that kills political thought and alternatives. He hated the Republicans and the Democrats.
I have a very hard time imagining him outright supporting someone like Joe Biden, even against Trump - and to be clear, he'd hate Trump too. Alas, since he's no longer with us anymore, people will keep recuperating him or pretending that there is no real way to determine his broad political stances.
His daughter has an active presence on Twitter if you were wondering what someone who knew him best thinks:
So who is the George Carlin of our time? (or Bill Hicks for that matter).
In other words their humor is rooted in sharp and insightful political and social commentary.
In other words their humor is rooted in sharp and insightful political and social commentary.
Yep. Throw in a few democrats instead of republicans, replace the Koch brothers with Soros, keep *some* of the rich guys in, switch the june protests with the quarantine protests, use that photo of epstein and bill clinton. It would air on fox news next thing you know.
Good thing there's an endless bucket of actual, legit criticisms to make about trump and the GOP.
This could easily be used as anti-mask propaganda by the loonies today.
For all the yea but this rant is both sides non sense.
There was a vote in the house this week to lower the Pentagon's budget by 10% ten. And only 60 people voted for it.
For every AOC as a rep theres literally 20 corporate dems to overwhelm her vote.
That said dems at present are the only party interested in actually governing.
There was a vote in the house this week to lower the Pentagon's budget by 10% ten. And only 60 people voted for it.
For every AOC as a rep theres literally 20 corporate dems to overwhelm her vote.
That said dems at present are the only party interested in actually governing.
Seems like a broad message that indicts the entire establishment, over a video that only focuses on one party. That's a sketchy thing to do.
A little more insight from his daughter.
She's been tweeting a bit about her father this morning if you are interested in how she thinks he might have reacted today.
She's been tweeting a bit about her father this morning if you are interested in how she thinks he might have reacted today.
Kinda weird to completely ignore what he's saying and use this solely as an attack on republicans. Then again I don't think I've ever seen an American political add that has sat right with me so 🤷🏾♂️
Haha there goes part of Era sitting right next to him, trying to shut him down.
I think that ad is supposed to get people pissed off and get out and fight for change more than go out and vote for Biden.
The whole system is rotten and rigged.
it's an anti voting ad, basically. it may have images of trump-related thing but in reality it is Just "government related things"
Dave Chappelle. Watch his newest special on Netflix and it's apparent