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AshenOne

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The wait is over. Years in the making, ELDEN RING was released last week, and has been taking the gaming world by storm.

But don't listen to me. From Software brought me on to do their worldbuilding, so I can hardly pretend to be objective.

Take a look at a few of the reviews:

https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/a39204927/elden-ring-review/

https://www.npr.org/2022/02/23/1082603088/elden-ring-review

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/elden-ring-review-in-progress-death-of-the-wild/1900-6417832/

And… well, there's more. Lots more.

"Once in a generation… masterpiece… beautiful and brutal… a sumptuous open world… "

Music to the ears.

Of course, almost all the credit should go to Hidetaka Miyazaki and his astonishing team of games designers who have been laboring on this game for half a decade or more, determined to create the best videogame ever. I am honored to have met them and worked with them, and to have have played a part, however small, in creating this fantastic world and making ELDEN RING the landmark megahit that it is.

Here's a taste:




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hog

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I love his description of From as 'determined to create the best videogame ever'. Because honestly they might have done it.
 

Sesha

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I'm sure top gaming forum Reset Era dot com has many salient comments to make regarding the topics of George R. R. Martin and Elden Eing.
 
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nice. Has it ever been confirmed exactly what GRRM contributed towards the story? Did he write the whole mythos surrounding the elden ring, elden lord, the stuff about Queen Marika, etc?
 

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don;t mean it in a negative way but what did he contribute? i thought he was gonna write the lore stuff or was he just there to advise From Software and help them come up with ideas?
 

Deer

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I love George RR Martin so much and I hope he never finishes that dumb book series

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AshenOne

AshenOne

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nice. Has it ever been confirmed exactly what GRRM contributed towards the story? Did he write the whole mythos surrounding the elden ring, elden lord, the stuff about Queen Marika, etc?

don;t mean it in a negative way but what did he contribute? i thought he was gonna write the lore stuff or was he just there to advise From Software and help them come up with ideas?
As per Miyazaki, George R.R.M. wrote the history of the game and the mythology basically.. obviously it might be just him doing it or in collaboration with Miyazaki himself but thats his involvement in the game.
 

Yuntu

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nice. Has it ever been confirmed exactly what GRRM contributed towards the story? Did he write the whole mythos surrounding the elden ring, elden lord, the stuff about Queen Marika, etc?

don;t mean it in a negative way but what did he contribute? i thought he was gonna write the lore stuff or was he just there to advise From Software and help them come up with ideas?

Exactly what he said. He helped to build up the lore behind the world. I think the stuff that happened before everything went to shit.

I think it shows as everythings feels even more detailed than usual.
 
Aug 31, 2019
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I'd be really interested to know how much work he actually did on the game: I get the feeling from what I've read that he basically did a two page tone piece and that was the all of it.
 

cowbanana

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A shame that it's a technically bankrupt product. Really detracts from everything else. I've shelved the game until it's polished on PC. Abysmal effort on the programming side.
 

Chibs

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I wonder if he'll do more with the Elden Ring universe as a writer. As some have pointed out, he wrote a lot of the lore, seems like some kind of novel or lore book wouldn't be entirely out of place, something like 'The World of Ice and Fire'. And I mean, we all know he'd rather do anything else other than write Winds of Winter so...
 

Omnipotent

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I'd be really interested to know how much work he actually did on the game: I get the feeling from what I've read that he basically did a two page tone piece and that was the all of it.
If you've spent even a little bit of time delving into the lore and story of this game and are familiar with Martin's works then it should be immediately apparent how much Martin has done for the games world building and history as his finger prints are all over it. I think the bigger problem is a lot of people are unfamiliar with Martin's books, From's lore in previous games or both and or were just expecting the game to be a story heavy game and From's take on Game of Thrones. But I think its immediately apparent just how much Martin has done for this world and it kinda irks me to see people downplaying his involvement (not to say that you are). Like even down to the detail of having named houses in the lore with their own history and swords associated with them is such a Martin thing. Or the interesting family tree of the demigods and their relation to eachother, the fact that we know where certain important battles took place and how major characters interacted with eachother.

The level of tangible history and detail in Elden Ring is so far beyond anything From had done previously and all of it is important to the game's modern day story and how things play out and a lot of time has been spent realizing the world.


I wonder if he'll do more with the Elden Ring universe as a writer. As some have pointed out, he wrote a lot of the lore, seems like some kind of novel or lore book wouldn't be entirely out of place, something like 'The World of Ice and Fire'. And I mean, we all know he'd rather do anything else other than write Winds of Winter so...
I don't really think general audiences will ever get anything like that if only because Miyazaki prefers to keep the secrets of the game hidden and to have players find it themselves. if Martin ever did anymore writings for the universe I'd imagine said works would be for bolstering the world outside of The Lands Between so that From might potentially have more to work with. But that's a massive if considering that Martin is constantly busy with a number of projects and From might feel like they have enough to work with as is.[/I]
 
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Qvoth

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i would like if miyazaki and grrm met again to discuss what fromsoft did to his characters
afaik grrm was in charge of making the universe and the characters right? not the story?
 

duckroll

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I don't really think general audiences will ever get anything like that if only because Miyazaki prefers to keep the secrets of the game hidden and to have players find it themselves.
IGN actually asked Miyazaki about this and he said that releasing a book with Martin's lore writing is possible, but there are no plans at the moment. He does share the same concerns you mentioned and isn't keen on it as a director, but who knows, if the game really blows up and they feel it is too big an opportunity to pass up on more products to sell, his personal feelings might be overwritten by his responsibility as president of the company.

i would like if miyazaki and grrm met again to discuss what fromsoft did to his characters
afaik grrm was in charge of making the universe and the characters right? not the story?
Miyazaki created the world and the concept first. GRRM was contracted to build on that concept and create a history and mythology for the world.
 

Fudus

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nice. Has it ever been confirmed exactly what GRRM contributed towards the story? Did he write the whole mythos surrounding the elden ring, elden lord, the stuff about Queen Marika, etc?
I guess the intro text?
Like "night of the black knives" , downfall, betrayal with a dash of historical allusions. Seems his style.
 

Omnipotent

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IGN actually asked Miyazaki about this and he said that releasing a book with Martin's lore writing is possible, but there are no plans at the moment. He does share the same concerns you mentioned and isn't keen on it as a director, but who knows, if the game really blows up and they feel it is too big an opportunity to pass up on more products to sell, his personal feelings might be overwritten by his responsibility as president of the company.
I would definitely be there day -1 for any of GRRMs writings on this world and think that even a collection of short stories on some of this worlds important characters or a novel centered on a couple characters and their family would be really interesting and I'd love to be able to get into their heads a bit more. So im on board for such a thing happening but not getting my hopes up lol.
 

Lord Fanny

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If you've spent even a little bit of time delving into the lore and story of this game and are familiar with Martin's works then it should be immediately apparent how much Martin has done for the games world building and history as his finger prints are all over it. I think the bigger problem is a lot of people are unfamiliar with Martin's books, From's lore in previous games or both and or were just expecting the game to be a story heavy game and From's take on Game of Thrones. But I think its immediately apparent just how much Martin has done for this world and it kinda irks me to see people downplaying his involvement (not to say that you are). Like even down to the detail of having named houses in the lore with their own history and swords associated with them is such a Martin thing. Or the interesting family tree of the demigods and their relation to eachother, the fact that we know where certain important battles took place and how major characters interacted with eachother.

The level of tangible history and detail in Elden Ring is so far beyond anything From had done previously and all of it is important to the game's modern day story and how things play out and a lot of time has been spent realizing the world.

Well, to also be fair, they have completely downplayed Martin's involvement with the game since the original reveal. Outside these blog posts and a few random mentions in interviews, Martin's name has not been attached to the project in most marketing. So it's not like it's hard to see why people think the way they do, since you have to actually dig into the lore to see all this apparent influence.
 
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If you've spent even a little bit of time delving into the lore and story of this game and are familiar with Martin's works
I am 100% not meming when I say I am waiting for him to finish the series before I start it. I generally try to do this wherever I can (I completely ignored Wheel of Time until I realised it was done, and I just started Name of the Wind, mistakening thinking it was a finished series! Very annoyed...). So no, zero familiarity with his work yet. One day though!
 

Lord Fanny

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I am 100% not meming when I say I am waiting for him to finish the series before I start it. I generally try to do this wherever I can (I completely ignored Wheel of Time until I realised it was done, and I just started Name of the Wind, mistakening thinking it was a finished series! Very annoyed...). So no, zero familiarity with his work yet. One day though!

Well, he's wrote more stuff than just Fire and Ice lol
 

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Missed op title opportunity :
GRRM new blog post : "The wait is over"!
 

Omnipotent

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Well, to also be fair, they have completely downplayed Martin's involvement with the game since the original reveal. Outside these blog posts and a few random mentions in interviews, Martin's name has not been attached to the project in most marketing. So it's not like it's hard to see why people think the way they do, since you have to actually dig into the lore to see all this apparent influence.
This is not true at all lol, hell the game was mentioned in an MMA match a couple weeks ago of all places where Martin's name was brought up, and it's often been repeated numerous times that Elden Ring is a "new world created by Hidetaka Miyazaki and George R R Martin" to the point where it might as well have been a tagline for the game.

I am 100% not meming when I say I am waiting for him to finish the series before I start it. I generally try to do this wherever I can (I completely ignored Wheel of Time until I realised it was done, and I just started Name of the Wind, mistakening thinking it was a finished series! Very annoyed...). So no, zero familiarity with his work yet. One day though!
Well...good luck with that lol. The wait is long and full of terrors. I'm no ASOIAF super fan but I have greatly enjoyed some of what Martin has released thus far. I've come to terms with the fact that the series might never be finished but I think the world Martin has created is enjoyable and rich enough that I'm okay with that. Especially if we can get good adaptations of his world and works exploring parts of the world and mythos.
 

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I would love for him to do more games. Maybe even work on a ASOIAF game that is a prequel or something.
 

Parthenios

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If you've spent even a little bit of time delving into the lore and story of this game and are familiar with Martin's works then it should be immediately apparent how much Martin has done for the games world building and history as his finger prints are all over it.
Does this mean there are chapter length descriptions of food? That would be pretty rad.
 
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Miyazaki sent him a YouTube link to some Dark Souls lore video and Martin replaced some terms with other terms.
 

Wollan

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I don't envy his position. Makes a series of brilliant books over many years but runs out fumes towards the end, which is a human thing to happen. Gets a ton of hate from 'fans', also ton of hate from people unhappy with how the tv-show wrapped up despite this being out of his hands. Yes, he should probably get in talks with other writers in order to help finish up his series (like what happened with Wheel of Time) but I can only imagine the amount of crap he gets every week.

I will be curios to dig deeper in the Elden Ring lore once I finish the game and to see if it's possible to discern/learn of his contributions. George R.R Martin has a reputation of doing excellent lore.
 

Dever

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I'd be really interested to know how much work he actually did on the game: I get the feeling from what I've read that he basically did a two page tone piece and that was the all of it.

I don't think Martin has it in him to write something short... He was supposed to do a simple companion book to the series, but went 200,000 words overboard. That extra content was then turned into the Fire & Blood novel.