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It's not. Bottom feeding gators are deluding themselves into thinking it is because it's 'politically correct' and 'feminist'. In fact, I started seeing the phrase being spewed around the time TLJ came out, so yeah.
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"Get woke, go broke"
- Thread starter vestan
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Nah. Bring it up when they go all Miss Cleo in the future. Again, and again, and again.
Look up John Ringo Get Woke on google. Do not look up The Quartering Get Woke on Youtube.
But that's pretty much gonna give you the genesis.
I first saw this term coined around the time Last Jedi and the latest Battlefield came around.
But that's pretty much gonna give you the genesis.
I first saw this term coined around the time Last Jedi and the latest Battlefield came around.
You're making a lot of assumptions about why something like Battiefeld V sold below expectations though. It was delayed to a launch window that surrounded it with other heavy-hitters coming out, while battle royale games are at their peak and their game mode isn't ready, as well as just the lifecycle of the previous games. They talked about how both Battlefield 1 and 4 both still have millions of monthly active users. I sincerely doubt that including women as playable characters in Battlefield V impacted sales in any substantial negative way as that has not been the case for other games in the past
I dont get most nerds, or gamers being pissed at the concept that you play as a POC or a female. I just dont know what triggers such hate especially since playing as a white male is boring after nearly ten years.
The thing with this get woke go broke meme is that it is so stupid. Its just a videogame enjoy it and people should not be jaded.
Gg as a movement is shit tier. Buuuut. I do feel Wolfenstein 2 was weaker than Wolf1 (not because of narrative reasons, more to do with gameplay and level design).
The arguement about Battlefield 5 is wonky as hell, my only gripe with it was the Norway bit in the campaign was that i would have loved to play it based on the real events rather than the made up thing
The thing with this get woke go broke meme is that it is so stupid. Its just a videogame enjoy it and people should not be jaded.
Gg as a movement is shit tier. Buuuut. I do feel Wolfenstein 2 was weaker than Wolf1 (not because of narrative reasons, more to do with gameplay and level design).
The arguement about Battlefield 5 is wonky as hell, my only gripe with it was the Norway bit in the campaign was that i would have loved to play it based on the real events rather than the made up thing
Women do anything more than be rescued and dress like sex slaves = "woke".
Black main character = "woke".
I don't know what's sadder, that that's the current bar for "woke", or that most movies don't actually pass it (hell, compare and contrast pretty much every other Star Wars movie).
According to videos I've seen Rey, the purple haired admiral, Rose and "Leah Poppins".
Or - if you're TheQuartering - you just outrightly admit you're doing this for financial reasons, even if you generally agree with the outrage, because you know your fanbase will still believe you're earnest and not-a-grifter despite admitting you're a grifter:
Sexism and racism. The far right has been infiltrating the gamer community for years, taking advantage of the fact that it is full of young men frustrated with their lives.
1.3 billion wasn't below expectations. There is no reality on this planet where you can spin more than a billion as "below expectations." #sorrynotsorry It then went on to be the top selling bluray release of the year. And to counter anymore spin
It's almost the exact dropoff that ESB had because TFA was a once in a lifetime event that couldn't possibly be topped by the sequel just like A New Hope and multiple movie franchises in general, you can literally trace the pattern of each trilogy's sequel having a drop off:
Gillette's ad didn't have a direct impact on sales either. Like with TLJ, the only places saying so are unsurprisingly, places like MGTOW. So pray tell. Where kinda places are you getting your info from?
It isn't.
It's just this weird chicken egg ouroboros nonsense where someone claimed it was "woke" and someone objected and then the hangers on of both viewpoints adopted it as "woke" for the benefit of opposing viewpoints.
If those leaks about studio culture are to believed, NRS also treats actual, living being women like trash.
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MK11 isn't woke. In fact, most of the shit I mentioned in the OP ain't woke. Right-wing goons think they are because women and PoC are prominent.
I think he is saying these games are "woke" to the mouth breathing white supremacists and what not when they aren't actually woke at all, just games with more colored and woman in them that cause those losers to cry out in baby rage.
It has a woman and a black man as leads. That's too much for some people. They want it to go back to the good old days of Star Wars. The irony is that Mark Hamil, Luke Skywalker himself, thinks these people are fuckheads.
Also another thing:
Wouldn't the "feminism" apply to Force Awakens as well? Rey wasn't a man in the last movie last time I checked.
In fact, I remember those types whining their asses off at Rey and Finn at the time and boycotting,
I'd argue it still underperformed expectations. Though I'd also argue it can be attributed to the handling of beloved characters and not the "wokeness" of the film.
What's interesting about the whole T&A pandering thing is that yes, having some level of explicit sexiness can and often does help sell media. But the stuff these 4chan goblins huff all day, the hentai big tiddy waifus and 1200 year old dragon stuff, has always -- always -- been an over the top product of targeting a vanishingly small userbase that happens to outspend the average consumer massively on this type of stuff.
A lot of this simply lacks appeal to almost everyone except a particular, rare person who is absolutely obsessed with it. Anime and games double down on these themes not because of free speech or anti-censorship impulses, or by bravely giving men what they definitely all want, but because they can reliably sell and re-sell to the same handful of guaranteed buyers who demand content that nobody else can take seriously.
What does woke even mean? Like, I know what it means in context. When people describe something as "woke", I know what they mean. But where does the term woke come from? Is it an acronym? An abbreviation? Or just a made up word?
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It absolutely would, but this internet whining from the far right only really got to the point that it is now with The Last Jedi onwards, which is why I have it in the OP instead of TFA.
In theory it means that you have a progressive position.
In practice, anything with women or PoC is already considered woke by the far right.
It's absolutely not based in reality. It's nothing more than the wishful thoughts of hateful people who need to convince themselves they're part of a "silent majority" to get through the day.
Yeah, but the reason I'm pointing to Force Awakens is that it wasn't any less "woke" than TLJ and yet did undisputed giga gangbusters.
So even if someone absolutely insists that TLJ underperformed, then the "woke" had little to with it or TFA would have also underperformed.
I've never heard of this meme. Is it limited to certain social circles?
Even the slightest hint of feminism makes these kinds of people lose their minds. Some of The Last Jedi's themes are intentionally feminist right down to Holdo's look but for the GG/GG-lite/skeptical/gamer crowd at this point feminism=women just existing in media for reasons other than giving men boners.
Just a dumb and non-nuanced phrase without any critical thinking. Lacks in nearly every way just like every other generalisation.
According to who and by what metric given the franchise's history with sequels vs the debut of a trilogy?
As is so often the case with this crowd, there's a deep irony in their reaction to representation.
Representation is important because it projects a more true vision of the world in fiction. People will swear up and down that this doesn't matter, and in the same breadth say something that shows exactly why it matters.
The recent backlash over Wrangler/Lil Nas X is a great example of this. They're accusing a black guy of "appropriating cowboy culture," because of an image they have of cowboys as the rugged white dudes from movies and TV. In real life 1 in 4 of them were black and most of the techniques and style of cowboy living came from Mexico. They're thinking of fucking John Wayne, not anything remotely close to actual history, while also trying to tell you that representation is a distraction from reality.
They say representation doesn't matter, and invariably prove it does by presenting their own worldview that is entirely colored by consuming media with unrealistic representation.
1.3 billion wasn't below expectations. There is no reality on this planet where you can spin more than a billion as "below expectations." #sorrynotsorry It then went on to be the top selling bluray release of the year. And to counter anymore spin
It's almost the exact dropoff that ESB had because TFA was a once in a lifetime event that couldn't possibly be topped by the sequel just like A New Hope and multiple movie franchises in general, you can literally trace the pattern of each trilogy's sequel having a drop off:
Gillette's ad didn't have a direct impact on sales either. Like with TLJ, the only places saying so are unsurprisingly, places like MGTOW. So pray tell. Where kinda places are you getting your info from?
I mostly agreed with OP though. I heard about the controversies and sales results separately, and wondered if there was a connection.
It comes from The Matrix. Neo took the red pill and "woke" up to the realities of the world.
1.3 billion wasn't below expectations. There is no reality on this planet where you can spin more than a billion as "below expectations." #sorrynotsorry It then went on to be the top selling bluray release of the year. And to counter anymore spin
It's almost the exact dropoff that ESB had because TFA was a once in a lifetime event that couldn't possibly be topped by the sequel just like A New Hope and multiple movie franchises in general, you can literally trace the pattern of each trilogy's sequel having a drop off:
Gillette's ad didn't have a direct impact on sales either. Like with TLJ, the only places saying so are unsurprisingly, places like MGTOW. So pray tell. Where kinda places are you getting your info from?
Don't forget that it was also the best selling blu-ray of 2018!
Nah, it comes out of the black activist community, just a way to say your eyes are open to the world. I don't think they were actively referencing The Matrix in any way.
Again, like another one said, there are WAY more verifiable factors to BFV actually underperforming than "it has women in it." Despite what the GG likes to say, you know, considering that BF was pretty much the last bastion for "hurr keep da womenz out of muh man gamez"
A films revenue=more than the Chinese market and that the "toy sales failing" thing was as true as the empty Captain Marvel theater hoax. Like I said, you can't spin TLJ as anything other than a commercial and critical success with an expected dropoff after an insane trilogy debut.
I feel like the latter's more of an indictment of Hollywood (and the entertainment industry as whole) wanting 'all the money' (as Jim Sterling puts it), and Disney thinking that Star Wars is the MCU, when it's always been more of a big event series that needs time between releases.
Well explained. It's poisoned so much in regards to accuracy.
Come to find out, Vikings weren't the white fantasy paragon people think they were. I remember learning the same with the Romans.
My personal favorite is magical white people as middle easterns in biblical times
I probably have a good idea where, but I won't post it here. Op you are thinking more than they are that's for sure.
It is discouraging to see that ' but mah video games ' and ' i just want to play games ' narratives are still alive in the Era, particularly noticeable in the Borderlands 3 threads.
About a month ago i checked the old place and made the mistake of clicking the Kyle Korver's white privilege article thread. Toxicity while expected was still suprising, but what shocked me was the amount of users with the sign up dates pre dating the exodus. Meaning these people were just sitting there, forcing themselves to stay away from off topic threads, biding their time for years before finally revealing themselves.
I wouldn't be surprised if Era has a sizeable ' sleeper ' alt right community as well.
About a month ago i checked the old place and made the mistake of clicking the Kyle Korver's white privilege article thread. Toxicity while expected was still suprising, but what shocked me was the amount of users with the sign up dates pre dating the exodus. Meaning these people were just sitting there, forcing themselves to stay away from off topic threads, biding their time for years before finally revealing themselves.
I wouldn't be surprised if Era has a sizeable ' sleeper ' alt right community as well.