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GI.biz: "The industry is looking at Sony to see what's next for the console business. At the moment, Xbox is the one providing all the answers"
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That's exactly the point, no one knows about it so wtf is it dominating?
too Early to tell, if anything Nintendo doing a good job with it's early 9th start.........by time the other systems come out the switch will have a 50 mill head start on 9th gen vs the 5 mill head start it had on 8th gen with the Wii U coming out first before ps4
this huge head start give Nintendo a few wiggle room to keep up what they doing with their 9th gen system
The Switch isn't competing against the other two consoles. A 'head start' doesn't mean anything given the disparity in power, different target audiences and different usage.
Nintendo isn't on the same cycle as the other companies, and even trying to fit them into the 'generation' model doesn't make much sense.
Nintendo isn't on the same cycle as the other companies, and even trying to fit them into the 'generation' model doesn't make much sense.
The Switch really isn't in the same race, let's not kid ourselves.
What abotu EyeToy? What about Dual Analog Sticks? Blu Ray Player?
Wait isn't Dring the same guy that reports UK sales? Damn, those are some poor tweets from him.
By who? Why would they be accurate?
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try to tell mediacreate, NPD and other official sales chart who count the switch as a home hybrid console so they compare their sales vs other home consoles and not handhelds
its almost 3 years in March 2020 if you do not know the switch a 9th gen console then where have you been for the last 2.5 years
What they mean is that the switch is mostly additive, and not cannibalizing sales of the other consoles, something that sales analysts have been saying for months if you've been following NPD threads and people like Mat
Software sales is where most of the money is made.
Anyone who thinks the Switch isn't actively hurting the other two console makers is just being hilarious.
they y'all about that also but they also talk about how it compare in sales vs those systems come on bro
Basic logic.
lmao. You think it's the slim margins on console hardware that's behind Sony's record profits?
He's asking you for numbers to back your claim that the Switch is removing sales for the other consoles, not that software makes money. Reading helps. He claimed Switch was additive and not cannibalizing sales from other consoles. You said nonsense about software being money. You have not yet backed up your claim that the Switch is hurting other console sales.
I don't even know what to say about this post. Are you even talking to the right person anymore?
... Perhaps because I never made the claim that the Switch was hurting sales of other consoles?
You did.
That is you saying that exact thing
That would be because Microsoft has been making HUGE changes, because they had to, and Sony has no reason to overplay their cards right now. It's better for them to steadily drip the info like they have been.
Just a standard generational upgrade from PS4 Pro to PS5 is enough to keep their train running perfectly well. They don't need to change up their gameplan like Microsoft is, they can wait and react.
Just a standard generational upgrade from PS4 Pro to PS5 is enough to keep their train running perfectly well. They don't need to change up their gameplan like Microsoft is, they can wait and react.
Hurting the other console makers by eating into their third party software revenue is NOT the same thing as 'eating into hardware sales'
I should have thought that was obvious.
I see it the same way MS needed to push its business into the whole gaming everywhere to put them into a better position in general and for next gen.
I think the wired articles are great ways to interrupt usual reveals on stage and being considered first with information of new systems and it diminishes somewhat the reveal impact of the competition.
The same press that spent the past few years talking about how the Xbox has no games?
Same ones that pumped out the articles just this past June, talking about how Sony won E3 without being there?
Nah.
Why would it eat into their hardware sales when they don't play 90% of the same games?
But how much is 3rd party game sales on the Switch hurting PS and XBO when they Switch doesnt even get all the 3rd party games?
Never mind that the split is probably PS4 with the most, XBO then Switch? And I'm not talking about the few where Switch was probably more than XBO. If you mean indie games, that's a topic I don't wanna touch.
First party games still dominate on Nintendo platforms, the Switch isn't an exception, yet.
The post you were responding to was talking about console sales, you injected software sales into the mix.
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You are wrong. You made a post that got called out and you just can't admit it.
Interesting take. I feel you clearly misunderstood my post and you're doubling down on your mistake.
we'll agree to disagree.
Which feels weird.
Presumably, most of us have PS4's and use it more than the XBO. I don't get why there seems to be a turn against Sony lately, even with some of their "screw ups".
I don't know how you can read an article that says this:
"Microsoft has dominated the conversation in 2019, but so what? If Sony has kept its powder dry for some major reveals next year, then it might find itself in control during 2020 when it actually matters."
And
"I confess I was a bit reluctant to write this piece initially. None of this is especially new. From the moment Sony backed out of E3, it was clear the company was going into stealth mode ahead of PS5, and we're still over a year away from its launch. And restructures are almost always painful. The time to judge them is not in the middle of the transition, but at the end when the kinks have been worked out."
Is a doom article. This entire thread just seems like a wild overreaction to a pretty sound piece.
In what way have Microsoft dominated the conversation in 2019?
Because it's bullshit.
Microsoft isn't dominating anything, they're just the louder of the two right now (because they have to be). E3's a perfect example of this; Microsoft attended the show, but Sony grabbed just as many headlines as they did, if not more, without making a peep.
And aside from the unfortunate layoffs, there's nothing painful about PlayStation's current state; we're a month away from a highly anticipated exclusive of theirs, a few months away from another, and they've been trending for like 3 weeks straight on generally positive news (again, with the unfortunate news of the layoffs very much being the outlier, and the Layden thing just being abrupt and kinda weird).
Some people are acting like they've been having a rough go of it lately, but they're riding some serious highs right now, commercially and critically. I don't get it.
Clearly the PS4 is a failure that has not sold 7 billion consoles. It's been 6 years. It should be selling more every single year.
It boggles my mind how someone could write this article and work in the industry. How is he just not laughed out of every place
lol This guy gets called out and then tries to gaslight the thread. Outstanding.
It's almost a literal repeat of last generation going into PS4/Xbone with the media trying to paint a perception different than reality. Last time you had a chance at being right due to no one knowing how PS4 would land. You definitely can't do that this time knowing the stakes and positions of the companies going into the next gen.
I'm not going to read the article for you. The writer directly answers that question in like the third paragraph. If you disagree with that, just say, but I don't know why you're asking me a question that the article itself answers.
"Microsoft isn't dominating anything, they're just the louder of the two right now" yes, that's them dominating the conversation as it currently exists. That's one of the points of the piece. This piece is so tepid, I almost don't know if we read the same thing. It's seems like you read a totally different "Sony is fucking up" piece, whereas I read a pretty tame "there's some uncertainty about Sony going into next gen" piece.
That's not dominating the conversation, especially if everyone else is talking more about the other party than they are you.
Even the uncertainty about Sony is much ado about nothing, ergo my take that the piece is bullshit.