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Antiwhippy

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GB has always been a fun muck-around kinda site - Waypoint consistently dig deeper into basically every issue. Let's not try and pretend that isn't the case. I just think that suits her skills better.
But she's not going to waypoint, she's going to be a community manager at something else or whatever. How is that any better than giantbomb.
 

valeo

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Oct 27, 2017
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You can appreciate GiantBomb's output (like I do) and realise that it's not a site that is really made for really in-depth discussions into politics/race etc. like Waypoint is. (or was..? Seems like they aren't going to last too much longer)There's nothing wrong with that, btw.
 

Antiwhippy

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But she isn't coming from waypoint, she's coming from being the community manager for the dragon Prince.

Also I enjoy waypoint a lot. Do I in any way put it above what giantbomb does? Not personally, no
 

KennyL

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Oct 27, 2017
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They all seems to be not in it this year, just going through the motion, which is understandable. All looked miserable together. Guest segments much better.
 

deepFlaw

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But she isn't coming from waypoint, she's coming from being the community manager for the dragon Prince.

Also I enjoy waypoint a lot. Do I in any way put it above what giantbomb does? Not personally, no
The post you quoted was about Natalie, not Danika.

but there’s like 0 reason to compare Waypoint and GB in that way here; they both do very different things

that being said

They all seems to be not in it this year, just going through the motion, which is understandable. All looked miserable together. Guest segments much better.
...what are you even talking about specifically? The conference reactions? The two times they were on the couch together (during which Ben and Abby were both sick)?
 

valeo

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But she isn't coming from waypoint, she's coming from being the community manager for the dragon Prince.

Also I enjoy waypoint a lot. Do I in any way put it above what giantbomb does? Not personally, no
Danika and Natalie aren't the same person.

imo Natalie has more grounding in deeper conversations around games media/politics/race etc; that just doesn't suit Giant Bomb. That is what I'm saying.

Giant Bomb is a place for fuckabout amateur comedians and there's nothing wrong with that.
 

KennyL

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Oct 27, 2017
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The post you quoted was about Natalie, not Danika.

but there’s like 0 reason to compare Waypoint and GB in that way here; they both do very different things

that being said



...what are you even talking about specifically? The conference reactions? The two times they were on the couch together (during which Ben and Abby were both sick)?
Ok, nvm, they were all great. Sorry.
 

muetimueti

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You can appreciate GiantBomb's output (like I do) and realise that it's not a site that is really made for really in-depth discussions into politics/race etc. like Waypoint is. (or was..? Seems like they aren't going to last too much longer)There's nothing wrong with that, btw.
Why would Waypoint not be around much longer? Are they in trouble?
 

Irrotational

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Oct 25, 2017
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So any consensus on the best nite show segments?
Once you have a clear, concise, non-ambiguous definition of "best" I think we'll be able to easily choose the winners :-)

Are you judging it based on:-
1. Comedy banter
2. Insights into the industry
3. A particular game or studio you're interested in
4. Something else I've not thought of
 

ArjanN

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Oct 25, 2017
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To be fair Twitch having lots of screamlords hamming it up for views and Giant Bomb coming off as unenthusiastic or overly dismissive at times can both be true.

For what it's worth I don't think it was as bad this year though, probably because E3 itself was slightly more lowkey.
 

Patapuf

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To be fair Twitch having lots of screamlords hamming it up for views and Giant Bomb coming off as unenthusiastic or overly dismissive at times can both be true.

For what it's worth I don't think it was as bad this year though, probably because E3 itself was slightly more lowkey.
I rarely find them dismissive and they get exited for a bunch of stuff.

Most of the "jaded" comment i've seen is about them not being exited enough for the right games. Like whatever counts as "Megaton" and "wins E3".
 

Avengers23

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Oct 25, 2017
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Danika and Natalie aren't the same person.

imo Natalie has more grounding in deeper conversations around games media/politics/race etc; that just doesn't suit Giant Bomb. That is what I'm saying.

Giant Bomb is a place for fuckabout amateur comedians and there's nothing wrong with that.
Natalie Watson, the Keyblade Master, the Lore Master, and the Joyous Gamer, also has a degree in critical theory and video game studies. That, and having been on podcasts with Austin, Danielle, Rob, and Patrick where they go deep into themes and content, has set her up to participate in deeper conversations than what GB, God bless it, usually has.
 

phanphare

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Oct 25, 2017
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Natalie Watson, the Keyblade Master, the Lore Master, and the Joyous Gamer, also has a degree in critical theory and video game studies. That, and having been on podcasts with Austin, Danielle, Rob, and Patrick where they go deep into themes and content, has set her up to participate in deeper conversations than what GB, God bless it, usually has.
I'm not so sure about that, have you heard Dan talk about the deep themes and politically charged subject matter from the metal gear series?
 

Antiwhippy

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Natalie Watson, the Keyblade Master, the Lore Master, and the Joyous Gamer, also has a degree in critical theory and video game studies. That, and having been on podcasts with Austin, Danielle, Rob, and Patrick where they go deep into themes and content, has set her up to participate in deeper conversations than what GB, God bless it, usually has.
There;s a reason why lore reasons is the most meticulous, 100% concise breakdown of the kingdom hearts series with absolutely 0 inaccuracies, with every participant deeply able to engage in the story of kingdom hearts like no other podcast, or even discussion on the internet really.

You could even say that lore reasons is the definitive text on the critical study of kingdom hearts.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don’t even know what you’re arguing at this point but all this is probably unnecessary.

can’t we just enjoy the energy drink legality breakdown together
 

Jintor

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my favourite part was listening to waypoint's final segment tie back to the [email protected] segment later.

it was like watching the prologue after the main event and being like 'oh that's why nat was so prepared'
 

Wrighteous86

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm not so sure about that, have you heard Dan talk about the deep themes and politically charged subject matter from the metal gear series?
My favorite part of Giant Bomb is when Dan and Austin interact with each other because you can tell they like each other and Austin tries so hard to be polite and accommodating to him despite his complete lack of knowledge and insight about anything important. When Austin is being “benevolently belittling” to Dan.

And I say this as someone that really likes Dan.
 

she_esh

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Sep 12, 2018
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My favorite part of Giant Bomb is when Dan and Austin interact with each other because you can tell they like each other and Austin tries so hard to be polite and accommodating to him despite his complete lack of knowledge and insight about anything important. When Austin is being “benevolently belittling” to Dan.

And I say this as someone that really likes Dan.
I loved that Bombcast where an email about Taco Bell spun off into a 25 minute argument about fast food. Dan talked about finally trying a Big Mac because he was "getting more open minded about food" and Austin just burst out laughing.

 

Navid

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Oct 26, 2017
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To be fair Twitch having lots of screamlords hamming it up for views and Giant Bomb coming off as unenthusiastic or overly dismissive at times can both be true.
Completely agree on this, the whole we got criticised for not being excited because we aren't loud felt like it was misrepresenting how GB could get in the past during E3. Just go back and watch the FF7 Remake reveal being accompanied by them going "No", shaking their heads and generally dismissing it with what can best be described as a collective eye roll.

Compare that to this year and them actually commenting on things they liked seeing from that game while bringing up points they were curious about in terms of how it would be handled. Even the weeks leading up to E3 have been more positive, I remember old Bombcast leading up to E3 being them groaning about it being that time of year again for weeks. Now, all credit to Jeff, every time E3 was brought up on a Bombcast he was quick to basically mention that while it is a busy week for them it's also a big deal and he was excited about it.

So yeah, in general I think during the period of time they were criticised for being unenthusiastic it was well warranted, but to their credit they listened and have been great in recent years.


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If I were to give any feedback this year, it would be more time given to the crews impressions on games that they saw on the show-floor or via appointments, so that we can get more in-depth detailed impressions. Think the likes of Easy Allies do a fantastic job in that respect and Waypoint was also great this year.
 
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Glassboy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Listening to Day 2 and this stadia guy is pushing really hard. The internet is always getting better? I never had a data cap until a couple years ago. It’s not always getting better.
 

apathetic

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Oct 25, 2017
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Listening to Day 2 and this stadia guy is pushing really hard. The internet is always getting better? I never had a data cap until a couple years ago. It’s not always getting better.
Think that was the most negitive I saw the thread get, during his time on the stream. He was pure marketing mode and a pain to listen to.