I don't think it's that difficult of a concept: porn that's ethically produced, aka not abusing, coercing, threatening or anything to the actors, everything is consensual and there's no pressure to do something they aren't comfortable with.
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'Girls Do Porn' Goes to Trial Over Allegations Women Were Tricked Into Videos [Up: Witness Testimonies in Threadmarks]
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So, they were okay with prostitution, but not porn? Maybe they shouldn't have showed up to a porn SHOOT and had sex ON CAMERA and signed the release forms.
I'm not hating on sex workers, I think it should be legalized if a person is willing, but their claim is absurd. You sign the contract, you willingly had sex on film, you took the payment, case closed.
I'm not hating on sex workers, I think it should be legalized if a person is willing, but their claim is absurd. You sign the contract, you willingly had sex on film, you took the payment, case closed.
Yeah they're usually small studios, often self-owned as well, rather than the more typical ones that might put out videos with models counting into the hundreds.
It doesn't seem hard time prove that the site posted ads with misleading information. That alone sounds like it could open a can of worms.
Disgusting but not out of the ordinary. A lot of porn companies and channels are incredibly exploitative. The amount of stories you can look up are endless.
It's not limited to just porn either. Proper movies with nude scenes trick and bully actresses into nude scenes all the time.
It's not limited to just porn either. Proper movies with nude scenes trick and bully actresses into nude scenes all the time.
I've always wondered how gdp manages to get girls who look like girls next door so easily compared to other similar channels. These girls never looked like they would be willing to do porn.
I don't know if you need proof when you have 22 victims saying the same thing. They are fucked. I hope they end up in prison and all videos get taken off the internet with penalties for website that host them. Similar to how we handle revenge porn.
Some of the stories of how these girls were coerced and blackmailed are sickening
I don't know if you need proof when you have 22 victims saying the same thing. They are fucked. I hope they end up in prison and all videos get taken off the internet with penalties for website that host them. Similar to how we handle revenge porn.
Some of the stories of how these girls were coerced and blackmailed are sickening
That could describe a lot of this thread.
And also having basic fucking empathy
where did you get prostitution from? They thought they were going into a modeling gig.
From the article it doesn't sound like they waited for them to show up until they revealed that it's a porn shoot.
You absolutely are. You're blaming the victim which the single most common way to shame sex workers who speak out.
The negotiation was that they would have sex, film it, and it would be sold to private collectors. It was not in the contract that this shoot could and would end up on Tube sites with no course for removal. If it was understood where these videos would have ended up, many of these women likely wouldn't have agreed and GDP knew this.
"A modeling gig?" A modeling gig that consists of sex on camera in exchange for payment.
I mean most of them are now being doxxed and ridiculed online so it's even worse to be honest. Essentially these videos pushes all these girls into hiding.
It only consisted of that after coercion in one manner or another by this company.
Porn is not prostitution.
And if they were prostitutes, what fucking difference does it make?
I want to give these gals the best possible tools to handle the coercive situation, social pressure and the implication of possibly making strange men angry. A 21 year old is far better able to handle this compared to an 18 year old. A 25 year old would be even more preferable based on the prefrontal cortex growth, but you know as well as I do that there's far too much resistance upgrading the legal age to 21, let alone 25.
I'd like to prevent things from happening in the first place, as well as punish the offenders if they do end up coercing the victims.
This alone is so ridiculous that your "I'm not hating on sex workers" sounds incredibly hollow. Being a prostitute (which shouldn't describe the plantiffs here) doesn't mean that they'd consent to having recordings of their sex posted on the internet for hundreds to see, and it's ridiculous to insinuate that prostitutes would automatically be fine with pornography.
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There's a ton of victim blaming going on this thread that's really going unnoticed.
Oh, shit. I remember that. Dude posted a pic with his gf on 4Chan or something and it took minutes for them to point out she did porn while he was being deployed.
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Really? I don't believe you. You should PM me where it's from to prove you really know.
unless of course this is from GDP
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Not sure it's victim blaming if he's asking a question like that. Some people might not know how these things actually work.
Anyway.
Not sure how well this will work in court, it's still scummy as shit and I feel really bad for these young women that were taken advantage of.
i imagine blackambush and other sites will be seeing lawsuits their way soon considering some scenes on blackambush especially have had girls walk out/ told on film it wont be published online, they also have film scenes they haven't distributed on their site but distributed them under a different name because the models didnt agree to things.
One simple rule that should be implemented is that porn contracts should be signed at least one week before the actual shooting, to prevent coerced/pressured filming. During this week any party can simply cancel if they wish.
Welcome to ResetEra any time an issue involving women comes up, unfortunately
let me guess: this is one of your favorite sites to jack off to?
Were people in the other thread bringing suits against their dates? Otherwise this comparison is less intelligent than you clearly think it is.
You need to book a location, camera, lighting, and male talent. They are not things that you want to cancel at the last minute because who is paying for it?
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I hope they had contracts and can prove it. Porn can be very shady.
Folks, if you have sex on camera for money it will end up online. Just FYI.
Folks, if you have sex on camera for money it will end up online. Just FYI.
They sign contracts.
But from what I've read, what they are told (vids will be sold to foreign markets and not uploaded online) and what they sign are different. In some cases they aren't given enough time to read the contract because the producers are hurrying it along and get annoyed if the girl wants to read every page.
It's a high pressure environment. Full grown Adults get talked into buying timeshares and cars they don't want and fall prey to scams every day from fast talkers that use effective high pressure tactics. Now imagine you're 18 with no money, nowhere to stay, no way home, in a room with a bunch of annoyed men telling you to sign a contract or else.
I fully expect that they get them much cheaper then regular stars, and say 'don't worry, you can do this just one time nobody will ever see this' and lie about they distribute it.
Either that or they say that 'we are so popular that it will make you a star in the biz' Kinda like a fucked up version of 'paying for exposure' .
EDIT: Hold on, i've read before that pornstars have to get bi weekly check ups for STD'S and medical stuff etc. If the contracts where signed on the day under pressure, then surely GDP are even more liable because they didn't check on the girls medical conditions?
Sign a contract, wait a week so that everyone has time to think it over, then book stuff.
Yup, unfortunately I don't think they will win due to the contract.
Contracts can be void (atleast here in Canada) if you can prove that your weren't in a good state of mind. (Blackmail/no way home, rushed)
Unfortunately even if they void the contract now, the videos are out in the wild
That you are shaming the women that fell for this scam is rich and very telling.
Fuck girls do porn. I have absolutely nothing against porn when the people involved have complete control of the situation, but what happened with these women is bullshit and I hope this finishes they get compensated and girls do porn is finished for good.
Yeah, was gonna say the same thing.
I wonder what was the actual paperwork.
Fuck GDP
I'm not sure what folks are talking about in regards to this being hard to prove. It's a civil suit, with 20+ women presumably saying the exact same thing(they were coerced, lied to, had a verbal contract broken, etc.). GDP is going to be demolished by a judge if this makes it to court. Whatever contract they signed isn't going to mean much, particularly if it was signed the same day as their shoot.