Global shortage in computer chips 'reaches crisis point'
Consumer price rises loom while dearth of semiconductors slow production from Samsung to Ford
www.theguardian.com
Most likely we will never recover to normal supply until early 2023.
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Global shortage in computer chips 'reaches crisis point'
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www.theguardian.com
Most likely we will never recover to normal supply until early 2023.
Pray for my PC to not malfunction before 2023.Global shortage in computer chips 'reaches crisis point'
Consumer price rises loom while dearth of semiconductors slow production from Samsung to Ford
Most likely we will never recover to normal supply until early 2023.
Yeah, I don't know about you guys, but I'm finding it increasingly unlikely that we're getting a Switch Pro this year... :-(
My 3080 purchase last year was an actual investment. The prices on eBay seem to get higher and higher.
Remember when there was a hard drive shortage and the price per GB went up significantly for a while?
The local Toyota plant had to go to reduced hours. Would be nice if North America had some foundries.
The Battle for 3080 will be quite a story to tell to our grandchildren.
my mobo shorting out last october was actually a good thing last year as it forced me to build instead of waiting until this year it seems
takes a few years and a whole lot of capital to build foundries, im curious if they actually go through with building them
So what's the alternative for microchips for electronics exactly?
The executives already said they were shipping everything they could build because of the shortage.
I'm finding it unlikely we are getting Playstation 5s this year.
Announced, yeah. They were manufactured months ago.
Moving forward though? Ha
As far as I'm aware, the chips in the switch are unaffected. Unless they decide to jump to 7nm node for the pro, then it could be a dominant force as it can keep stock.
I saw 6 switches in my target yesterday, no other consoles.
It already does and it will continue to do so. AMD is making everything of note – Ryzen chiplets, GPUs, console SoCs – using TSMC's 7nm process. And that one is in short supply as it is. According to reports, things should get a bit better over the coming months with AMD getting around 10,000 additional wafers per quarter on top of what they already have. Whether this is going to be enough to meet demand is up in the air though. Personally, I doubt it.
I'm so glad that I managed to snag a 3080 in November. Just in time to not have to deal with this nonsense.
Also makes the lack of available PS5s easier to deal with.
Also makes the lack of available PS5s easier to deal with.
The way this would normally work:
Short supply has to be offset by increase in prices, which would be passed to the buyers and then to the end users.
Increase in prices to the chip production leads to profit margin increase, which would lead more businesses to enter that market, thus creating more chip producers.
Then that would constrain the raw materials, leading to an increase in their costs, which would be passed through to the chip producers, the buyers, and the end users.
Then the profit margin on the raw material increases, which would lead to more businesses to enter that market, thus creating more mining businesses, etc.
If the raw material itself is constrained, then eventually producers would either have to pony up even MORE money, or find a different method of producing chips. Either a different raw material or a more efficient way of using the raw material.
These squeezes throughout the market may take a year or more to ripple through, and for production to ramp up to meet demand. Unless some new technology replaced the need for chips, I don't see the need going down ever.
The price of electronics across the board might go up yeah, but at what point do customers just say: "Nah" ?
Short supply has to be offset by increase in prices, which would be passed to the buyers and then to the end users.
Increase in prices to the chip production leads to profit margin increase, which would lead more businesses to enter that market, thus creating more chip producers.
Then that would constrain the raw materials, leading to an increase in their costs, which would be passed through to the chip producers, the buyers, and the end users.
Then the profit margin on the raw material increases, which would lead to more businesses to enter that market, thus creating more mining businesses, etc.
If the raw material itself is constrained, then eventually producers would either have to pony up even MORE money, or find a different method of producing chips. Either a different raw material or a more efficient way of using the raw material.
These squeezes throughout the market may take a year or more to ripple through, and for production to ramp up to meet demand. Unless some new technology replaced the need for chips, I don't see the need going down ever.
The price of electronics across the board might go up yeah, but at what point do customers just say: "Nah" ?
Between the lack of games and lack of available consoles, it doesn't feel like this new generation is really going to get going until 2023.
There are 11 Intel fabs in the US alone. The story that there is no local manufacturing capacity is way overblown.
The problem is that we came up with fancier and fancier eggs that required appropriately fancy baskets and now there's only one basket and it's not expanding fast enough because each expansion costs as much as a military procurement contract. We still have less fancy baskets but they won't do unless you accept less fancy eggs.
Except the demand is already there and has been for a while yet we haven't seen new chip producers really entering at the rate you'd expect
I didn't say that.
We've put our chip making largely in the hands of TSMC. Global foundries fell behind. Intel fell behind. We (not just the US, but every country) have given Taiwan and China too much of our own burden and this is the result. TSMC is undoubtedly the best at what they do, but it doesn't mean that the rest of the world should have given up entirely.
It's funny as despite these known issues, stock of consoles is becoming more and more frequent in the UK.
Whilst we are nowhere near a point of having stock at most retailers and buying at your own convenience, we've gone from having retailers put stock up for sale once a month to a weekly basis.
Whilst we are nowhere near a point of having stock at most retailers and buying at your own convenience, we've gone from having retailers put stock up for sale once a month to a weekly basis.
You are going to get cross-gen games in 2022.
WB ain't going to cut PS4 and Xbox One from Gotham Knights and Hogwarts Legacy for example, and who knows how many 2020/2021 titles were delayed to 2022 even without an official announcement.
Fair enough. I'm assuming they figure getting local foundries up to their level and for their cost point (especially given that the volume of work they get means they can easily undercut anyone else) isn't very feasible
At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised to see this generation last a full decade now.
Same. And with the situation being such that it is, it's not like there's going to be a price drop any time soon; no point in waiting when I can at least play my PS4 games better than ever along with the occasional new PS5 exclusive.
And my PC is still powerful enough to play through any recent games as well regardless of whether I'm able to get a GPU soon.
Same. And with the situation being such that it is, it's not like there's going to be a price drop any time soon; no point in waiting when I can at least play my PS4 games better than ever along with the occasional new PS5 exclusive.
And my PC is still powerful enough to play through any recent games as well regardless of whether I'm able to get a GPU soon.
Cross Gen is going to be longer than usual folks. I hope I can snag either a PS5 or Xbox Series X at some point this year.