Sony is in a Goldilocks situation right now imo.
1. They have a machine that nearly every third party makes games for.
2. These third parties have pivoted to make more MP or GAAS type games. Not every game obviously, but many of them.
3. Sony strength has always been big budget AAA SP games. The type of game third parties have moved from.
Playstation has the games to satisfy nearly every type of gamer. Indies, AAA SP, AAA MP, third parties, GAAS, etc etc.
Honestly, not MS or Nintendo have this perfect situation right now.
At some point, does Sony care more about its game publishing than its hardware?
No.
Psn makes money hand over fist. Just psn alone in 2018 made more than the ENTIRETY of Nintendo in 2018.
Not when their hardware is doing 100M+.At some point, does Sony care more about its game publishing than its hardware?
Not denying that, and not implying Sony should get out of the hardware business. But I do wonder if the strategic value of exclusives is less important than the sales potential of their games. If God of War would be a 20-30M seller as a multiplat. Maybe Playstation is in a strong enough it doesn't need exclusives.
Also, and maybe more urgently, if cloud gaming is going to eventually supplant local hardware, are SIE games strong enough that Sony would continue producing AAA (i'd argue AAAA) games without the corporate synergy factor.
Although, if they decided to make another Lost Legacy i wouldn't object.
Not that they'd have sold 17m, but I bet substantial enough remasters of Killzone 2 and Motorstorm Pacific Rift would have done quite nicely on PS4.
I think stuff like PS Now will be used to leverage bases outside of PS hardware. That is why streaming is becoming so important.Not denying that, and not implying Sony should get out of the hardware business. But I do wonder if the strategic value of exclusives is less important than the sales potential of their games. If God of War would be a 20-30M seller as a multiplat. Maybe Playstation is in a strong enough it doesn't need exclusives.
Also, and maybe more urgently, if cloud gaming is going to eventually supplant local hardware, are SIE games strong enough that Sony would continue producing AAA (i'd argue AAAA) games without the corporate synergy factor.
I can't wait for this in native 4K60. :)
Same question could be applied to Nintendo then no? why keep pokemon, Mario and Zelda exclusive to switch when they could sell a ton more going multiplatform?
I think stuff like PS Now will be used to leverage bases outside of PS hardware. That is why streaming is becoming so important.
The PC folk, for example, who wouldn't have otherwise put money toward first party will provide revenue through PS Now. It wouldn't be going directly toward something like God of War but it adds to the pot either way.
I also think the big picture is for people to invest in the PS ecosystem more than any single game total sales.
Same question could be applied to Nintendo then no? why keep pokemon, Mario and Zelda exclusive to switch when they could sell a ton more going multiplatform?
Sooo good! Might be too late now and the GoW sequel will probably vilify Thor but I'd love it if Santa Monica got to do a proper big budget Thor game! The brilliant axe mechanic is what made GoW deserve all the awards for me.
Sooo good! Might be too late now and the GoW sequel will probably vilify Thor but I'd love it if Santa Monica got to do a proper big budget Thor game! The brilliant axe mechanic is what made GoW deserve all the awards for me.
That does not make sense.
And TLOU2 will also sell less than UC4 unless it's "basically a cross gen game" again.
Not sure why a remaster should be added to the sales.
Sure. $100 bucks or more?
Maybe I suck at reading these stats, but do we have an idea how much UC: Lost Legacy has sold?
Because I got pounced on by four different people for daring to suggest 10 million isn't something worth frothing at the mouth with excitement over? I thought God of War was a bigger exclusive than both Uncharted and GT these days. I'm sorry for not staying up to date.
Now I know why NPD and Media Create threads are ghost towns. They're toxic and cliquey as fuck where people get attacked for daring to post if they're not experts on videogame sales numbers...
Have a wonderful day.
How many 10m+ selling PS4 exclusive titles does that make this gen. Five?
There's the three in the graph. Horizon was confirmed over 10M and I think Spiderman was confirmed over 9M as of November last year. TLOU 2 might be the sixth.
I dont think DS will hit 10+ million. How much did Metal gear series sell?Yeah 5
TLOU2 will be the sixth
There is also Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima still coming, both definitely have potential
I dont think DS will hit 10+ million. How much did Metal gear series sell?
If cloud gaming took over, Sony will simply try their best to make sure people stream games from playstation platform.Not denying that, and not implying Sony should get out of the hardware business. But I do wonder if the strategic value of exclusives is less important than the sales potential of their games. If God of War would be a 20-30M seller as a multiplat. Maybe Playstation is in a strong enough it doesn't need exclusives.
Also, and maybe more urgently, if cloud gaming is going to eventually supplant local hardware, are SIE games strong enough that Sony would continue producing AAA (i'd argue AAAA) games without the corporate synergy factor.
I dont think DS will hit 10+ million. How much did Metal gear series sell?
They always had solid sales, though an issue the series had is that it carried a lot of baggage.
Death Stranding is a fresh start so it has a lot of potential to sell like other big Sony IPs.
Wouldn't be surprised if it sells more than the best selling MGS.
It won many GOTY awards though.
Death Stranding will do 10million in my opinion. Ghost of Tsushima I'm not so sure about it. I love Sucker Punch and can't wait for that game, but I feel that game will sell well enough, but won't quite reach the 10mil.
I think they will do both to the best of their ability. They want to expand as much as possible, so the non-console platforms will be adding on to the base they already have with console.Yeah that's true about PC gamers. That's why I think streaming is going to be so potent (assuming the latency and video quality issues are mostly resolved). The potential "PC" market for streaming is way bigger than the "PC gaming" market. I have a gaming PC, but most of my computer time is on an integrated-graphics ultrabook. Streaming will include my ultrabook as a gaming platform where traditional PC platforms don't (indie games aside, yada yada).
I guess my question is whether it's more profitable in the longterm for Sony to sell The Last of Us 2 to every ultrabook, chromecast, smartphone and console user, or leverage the Last of Us 2 to sell more PS4/5s.
Dude, you came into a sales celebration thread, downplayed the success and made a comparison with another game on another platform.
What did you think was going to happen? You'd be greeted with a fanfare and ticker tape parade?
In the future the platform will be more important. What's important is for people to keep buying games whether it's tlou2 or new call of duty from playstation store, whether it's streaming or not, doesn't matter for Sony as long as they got their 30% cut as platform holder.Yeah that's true about PC gamers. That's why I think streaming is going to be so potent (assuming the latency and video quality issues are mostly resolved). The potential "PC" market for streaming is way bigger than the "PC gaming" market. I have a gaming PC, but most of my computer time is on an integrated-graphics ultrabook. Streaming will include my ultrabook as a gaming platform where traditional PC platforms don't (indie games aside, yada yada).
I guess my question is whether it's more profitable in the longterm for Sony to sell The Last of Us 2 to every ultrabook, chromecast, smartphone and console user, or leverage the Last of Us 2 to sell more PS4/5s.
Mother of GOD! i cannot even imagine next-gen God of War! o_O
imagine the third one
I'm curious though if 3rd party publisher will all start their own streaming service like in movie industry and start pulling out games from console if streaming really takes off.