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GoG launches an anti-DRM information website called FCKDRM
- Thread starter lashman
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If you want to talk about that then why not go and post in the other thread?
On the topic of DRM, the more people can be made aware of the the better.
Thanks for the answer peeps! Not surprised how their tweeter folk keeps being tone-deaf.
With regards to this topic, their non-inclussion of itch is indeed weird, and why I think this is just some dumb ad for their website, disguised as PSA or something.
Itch allows you to just sell Steam keys instead of downloads though, which is the perfect excuse for GOG to not include them. And frankly, that would make sense. Itch isn't bad in this regard, but Humble Store is, with some games with DRM-free badge (!) simply having DRM-free concept art download or something, and the game being only available as a Steam key.
I'd like to say something of the FCKdrm site; to me this sounds like a large advertisement for their store. Nice that they added in DRM free links to music and film, wasn't aware that Vimeo on Demand was DRM free. Still an advertisement.
I don't disagree with the fact that DRM never benefits consumers but having GoG setting up an entirely different site to fight it seems weird when they're merely calling out the competition.
EDIT: I do appreciate that they have links to sites that sell DRM music though.
Advertising good things is not bad though. Do you also get upset when healthy food companies advertise their meals over junk food chains?
As long as the average consumer gets better informed about DRM and take a harder stance against it, GOG will benefit for "calling out the competition", yes, but we customers will benefit much, much more. So it's kinda silly to care.
I was always under the impression that the Steam client/login was a form of DRM, just a generally unobtrusive one.
No, you can just launch the game exe from windows explorer and it will work fine (if the game is drm free).
I guess you are right. In the end this should be a net gain when it comes to information on what companies are doing with DRM.
I actually didn't know that. What games on Steam are DRM-free (besides probably the CDPR ones)?
Isn't that what GoG is for?
I don't see how DRM is good for consumers at all.
I don't care if they are just doing it to call out competition or whatever: Being anti-DRM benefits the consumer and video game preservation. Any effort to educate people about it is a good thing.
All these developers and companies quoted on the website as saying they don't believe in DRM should pull their games from services like Steam and only use 100% DRM-free services.
They don't believe in DRM but they sure as hell believe in profits so they can continue to work.
Seriously. Could've just been Say No to DRM and it would've worked just fine.
This is the kind of stuff I hate about this culture. Yes DRMs are bad. They really are. I'm not defending them. But creating a website CALLED "Fuck DRM" is just immature petty shit. Can't we argue about things like goddamn adults?
It's a cute little piece of marketing. I wish more of the big publishers would be willing to offer DRM-free PC releases (wish comic book publishers would do the same, as well).
Note that this list is very much incomplete.
You can distribute 100% DRM free games on Steam.
It's actually (marginally) easier than distributing DRM-encumbered games on Steam!
Man, my adolescent cynicism is flaring up pretty bad reading this. A games retailer, who's main marketing point is DRM free software, takes a stand against DRM?
CDPR uses Steamworks and CEG DRMs on Steam for The Witcher 1&2 and gifts DRM free version on GOG instead as a advertisement for GOG.
But The Witcher 3 is DRM free on Steam.
What's there to argue? You said, you also believe that DRMs are bad, so please play devil's advocate and argue for DRM. In the end, there is not much to discuss, it's matter of people noticing what DRM is about. Otherwise we end up in a situation where we discuss it and nothing happens, as with many issues. But making people aware of the issue, may lead to action.
bias is a noun
biased is the adjective
This shit has been a meme for 10 years ffs
Do some of you walk around with permanent lemons in your mouths?
It's a catchy 3 letter slogan to go along with "DRM" being 3 letters and it portrays the feeling many have towards unnecessary and over the top DRM, fuck it. It causes issues for the games industry, preservation and at the end of the day does little more than to line the pockets of the likes of Denuvo.
The whole "once I hit 25 years old I stop swearing because I'm a parent/adult" borders on religious puritanism. No, you don't need to swear in life, but please save us the fainting couch attitude towards some bad language.
I don't think you need to think this marketing is objectively SMART either, it's low-ball (fun more than anything), but I don't for one second buy some of the "my adult sensibilities have taken a hit" in this topic.
Don't know what to say. I certainly am anti-drm (former member of FSFE among other things) and have often chosen gog-versions of games because of it. But cdpr, in it's extended entirety, have to get their shit together on Twitter or else I will abandon them.
That's not really seeing the reality of it though, apart from some outsiders like CD Project Red. Investors demand to have the companies products safeguarded (for lack of better term on top of my head) so DRM becomes a necessary thing. The worse alternative that absolutely would have a huge impact is always online DRM.
Except DRM doesn't work. Pirates will either crack the game or just not play it. DRM at the end of the day is a money sink that just hurts legitimate customers.
FUCK DRM
SUPPORT GOG
FUCK CONSOLES
FUCK ALWAYS ON-LINE
itch.io is not 100% DRM-free.
SUPPORT GOG
FUCK CONSOLES
FUCK ALWAYS ON-LINE
itch.io is not 100% DRM-free.
Isn't there some online login requirement going on though? I remember the defense force for XB1 DRM talked a lot about that. A month offline before you have to login again or something like that?