https://www.thezeroreview.com/newsitorial/goldeneye-007s-ip-just-became-lot-less-complicated/
Trying not to get my hopes up but we'll have to see if anything happens.
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GOLDENEYE 007’S IP Just Became a lot Less Complicated as some Nintendo copyrights expired
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https://www.thezeroreview.com/newsitorial/goldeneye-007s-ip-just-became-lot-less-complicated/
Trying not to get my hopes up but we'll have to see if anything happens.
How comprehensive would Nintendo's copyright have been, and what exactly would it have covered? Would it be the original code, or at least just aspects of the original code (presumably it wouldn't cover stuff like the Bond theme, or Pierce Brosnan's face), or would it be wider than that? Level layouts perhaps, although they were somewhat based on actual locations from the movie. Other aspects of the game design?
Just saying, GoldenEye for the Wii was respectably good. It had a very active online community for well over two years after release (and I think some people still play it to this day, bizarrely).
It was a reasonably decent COD clone, but it was not GoldenEye.
I am confused by how this is relevant. Customs copyright records are merely records companies can file with CBP to protect against bootlegs of their works being imported. The actual copyright is presumably still owned by Nintendo/Rare/whoever and probably expires 95 years after publication, as a work of corporate authorship.
It would be cool to see Nintendo and Microsoft team up to release an HD remake on the Switch and One with crossplay.
This is my dream. I would have bought it on the Wii and 360 back when the remake first got made and I'll do it now again. A portable HD switch version would be a dream and cross-compat with an XB1 version would be wonderful. It was in Nintendo's hands to make it happen before and now it's in Microsoft's hands. Hopefully Microsoft can make it happen
I'm more surprised, given the success of Goldeneye back in the day and the continued interest in the game and it's play style, that whoever holds the 007 IP hasn't gone on to continue with the formula. There are currently 24 mainline James Bond films, and there's definitely the material for many FPS games. 007 Legends, despite being a lousy game and being poorly thought out, had a decent idea in mining the older films for content and inspiration.
Nintendo and Microsoft have always had a decent working relationship. Rare released a number of GBA and DS titles immediately after their sale to Microsoft. The only one of the big 3 that doesn't like playing ball has always been Sony.
And MS are just sat on the Perfect Dark ip, not doing anything with it.
Yes, I didn't know about this lol. Well, it's not correct to say I didn't know about the game itself, but rather that it was a remake of the N64 game.
That's different, though. The 007 IP reaches a far wider range of consumers than Perfect Dark can ever hope to.
This is the best thing that could possibly happen! And since Nintendo and Microsoft have recently both taken pretty sharp turns towards trying to please customers more, not entirely impossible. But who am I kidding, it's not gonna happen.
They tried. Nintendo even tried making a Goldeneye sequel based on IIRC Thunderball but by that time Goldeneye had turned Bond into a legitimate top tier video game IP so EA outbid them for the rights. EA and Activision (who got the rights after them) drive the appeal into the ground by releasing a series of middling games. Seems like it'd be ripe for a reboot of the right developer/publisher got its hands on it.
COD Clone? What? It actually played kinda similarly to the original.
I really liked my time with the Wii version but alas never finished it. I'd love to make up for that one day.
My dream is a Goldeneye HD redux with 4 player local and 8 player online on Xbox and Switch, cross platform online. Four player split screen even on Switch tablet mode.
I disagree. Reloaded was a really good game and much better than the original if you get rid of the nostolgia.
The IP rights are seemingly in flux since Activision has backed away from it, so it'd be interesting to see a developer pick up those rights and go back to Goldeneye's style. For what it's worth, I think Thunderball would've been a solid choice for a follow-up to Goldeneye back in the late 90s / early 2000s, and I still think it's a film that lends itself well to being transformed into an FPS.
Maybe the developer is the one that owns the code? That would make sense to me, but I am unfamiliar with all this.
As relevant as it was during its own time, it's definitely a lightning-in-a-bottle situation.
Like the other 2 GoldenEye sequels, it would likely end up being a James Bond shooter that would have to stand on its own merits, and be a competent game.
Making an FPS that stands out would actually take some effort. Not just the cheap cash-in that this would be all too tempting to be.
If it were to be just a port of the N64 game, even cleaned up a bit, it still just might be a reminder of how far FPS games have come, and how primitive that game is
In other words, I think this would be a very difficult project to do well on.
I nominate Machinegames to make it.
Like the other 2 GoldenEye sequels, it would likely end up being a James Bond shooter that would have to stand on its own merits, and be a competent game.
Making an FPS that stands out would actually take some effort. Not just the cheap cash-in that this would be all too tempting to be.
If it were to be just a port of the N64 game, even cleaned up a bit, it still just might be a reminder of how far FPS games have come, and how primitive that game is
In other words, I think this would be a very difficult project to do well on.
I nominate Machinegames to make it.
The people that pay for the game to be created generally own said game/code.
It would be pretty cool to see them release that Goldeneye remake on both the Switch and the Xbox One with crossplay.
Recently went back and tried to play this game again; it's shocking how unplayable it felt to me. The whole aiming system at the time made sense, but after the introduction of twin-stick FPS, it renders this nearly impossible to enjoy from a control standpoint.
Still one of my all time favorites, and mind-blowing that most of the development staff had never worked on a big game before.
Still one of my all time favorites, and mind-blowing that most of the development staff had never worked on a big game before.
Technically yes, but they were fine with letting Rare take all their work on non-Nintendo franchises to Microsoft (hence the XBLA remasters of the Banjo Kazooie games and Perfect Dark), so I've always found it strange that Nintendo would draw a red line under Goldeneye, since it's not even one of their franchises. It always made much more sense to me that Activision was the sticking point for an N64 Goldeneye re-release, what with them having the 007 licence at the time and having their own full Goldeneye remake in development.
Though I think at this point it's less about licensing issues and more about no publisher giving a shit about making Bond games any more. The license hasn't been a hot video game property for years (arguably its cachet pretty much began and ended with Goldeneye), and 007 Legends was just franchise-killingly dire.
Quantum of Solace was a pretty good game from what i remember and so was Bloodstone, no idea about legends tho because i never got round to buying it
Legends was a poor CoD clone that randomly butchered previous films in the franchise with little care behind them. The idea of dipping into the past for content was great, but the execution was horribly lacking in vision.
Wasn't the story that Nintendo wanted to publish VC versions of the MS owned Rare N64 games in exchange for granting MS permission to do the remake, and both parties were initially happy with that, but then later on Nintendo pulled out.
I, for one, would never even dream of wanting a remaster of Goldeneye. By now people should've realised that, while the game was fun during it's heydey, it's a needlessly clunky FPS by any standard. Even back then PC had games like Quake which were simply eons ahead of anything that Goldeneye did. And the game even got a sequel and a remake already, so I seriously see no value in yet another attempted revival of Goldeneye.
Also, the 007 franchise deserves a 3rd person stealth-oriented entry. Or at least a shooter that actually tries to capture the feel of the movies (such as Everything or Nothing on the PS2).
The remake got an HD makeover for 360/PS3 as well.
Also, the 007 franchise deserves a 3rd person stealth-oriented entry. Or at least a shooter that actually tries to capture the feel of the movies (such as Everything or Nothing on the PS2).
The remake got an HD makeover for 360/PS3 as well.
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That was the story. But I still think Activision's Goldeneye remake is the huge elephant in the room. I do wonder if Activision leaned on Nintendo behind the scenes to cancel the deal with MS in order to protect their own relationship with Microsoft (and get Wii timed exclusivity for Goldeneye Reloaded in return).
Exactly. This makes fuck all difference to anything as far as having Goldeneye remastered goes AFAIK