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GoldenEye 007 has not aged well.. (What critically acclaimed games have not aged well?)
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Controls are fine if you use the 1.2 setup, you can get crafty and use the 2.X controls and use two controllers for dual analog. Controls aren't a problem with the game imo.
sonic 2 and 3 still whip to this very day
like if those games were never good sonic mania wouldn't have been as celebrated as it was
Anything on the PS1 or N64, for the most part. A few exceptions spring to mind, like FFIX, MGS1, RE2/3, SM64 ...but wow, the first gen of 3D is generally hideous. I find both N64 Zeldas hideous from an audio and visual perspective. Gameplay feels really clunky, too.
Yeah you can get really close to modern controls using those. The default control style in Goldeneye is very jarring these days.
man this thread is already fucking with my head. i can agree that goldeneye controls really weird these days, but I still like the art. just not the draw distance lol
but sonic on genesis, really?? that shit holds up really well imo. Most old 2d games hold up pretty dang well, especially platformers. early 3d games are where things started to get super janky. Mario 64, a little, maybe, but it still holds up great outside of some camera issues. Holds up better than banjo IMO but I've played it more recently
but sonic on genesis, really?? that shit holds up really well imo. Most old 2d games hold up pretty dang well, especially platformers. early 3d games are where things started to get super janky. Mario 64, a little, maybe, but it still holds up great outside of some camera issues. Holds up better than banjo IMO but I've played it more recently
Just about any early 3D game - especially PlayStation 1 games. A lot of N64 games look like ugly colour smears too, and had serious framerate problems.
When it comes to the technological advancement of gaming, it's hard to go backwards. Your expectations change.
When it comes to the technological advancement of gaming, it's hard to go backwards. Your expectations change.
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
That foggy draw distance into an open world flight game is painful today.
That foggy draw distance into an open world flight game is painful today.
I actually love how Ocarina still looks and the...locked 20 fps is actually bearable.
However the Deku Tree LEAVES have always bothered me, even back in 1998, they look so...jaggied-squared, I have tried to filter them in so many different ways in emulators and nothing works :(
Pfff, Mario Kart DS is STILL amazing, it really still plays well.
64 wasn't even good to begin with. Only saving grace was the GOAT Battle Mode. Diddy Kong Racing and Crash Team Racing both owned Mario Kart 64's ass.
This is mostly a problem with early 3D games. While it was obviously a massively important transition for the industry with tons of groundbreaking games, so much of it has aged terribly, particularly on the console side. At least with old PC games there is usually a lot of mod support to help older games, and there's been a lot better and more expansive work done by companies like GoG, Nightdive, etc., to remaster stuff from that era.
(I grew up with a gc so this all comes from virtual console experience)
Mario Kart 64 is complete garbage compared to almodt every other mario kart game, it looks SO bad and doest even have 3d models for the racer. Especially compared to ctr which is still a really good game.
Morrowind feels really bad to play coming off of modern eldeer scrolls games because of missI ng attacks + the font being unreadable on hd pcs. The UI is truly awful in every single way.
I agree with the person who said the 64 Zeldas sound horrible, the sounds in tbat game for scraping and the olants are just aming the worst things ive ever heard, but the rest of the game is ok.
Mario Kart 64 is complete garbage compared to almodt every other mario kart game, it looks SO bad and doest even have 3d models for the racer. Especially compared to ctr which is still a really good game.
Morrowind feels really bad to play coming off of modern eldeer scrolls games because of missI ng attacks + the font being unreadable on hd pcs. The UI is truly awful in every single way.
I agree with the person who said the 64 Zeldas sound horrible, the sounds in tbat game for scraping and the olants are just aming the worst things ive ever heard, but the rest of the game is ok.
Mario 64 definitely did with that abysmal level design... Outside of Tick Tock Clock and the Bowser Stages everything is just so bland, boring, empty and utterly uninventive.
I love System Shock but these days playing it "vanilla" is almost impossible. Thank god for the mouselook mod.
I'ma go ahead an say Phantasy Star Online. Do the same 3 button "combo" over an over while clunkily trying to avoid taking hits. As far as action/rpgs go it became dated quite fast, like even before its successor PSU launched.
edit: to add to this I think Phantasy Star Ø pretty much proved this. Ya it may have been alil gimped by having dpad control as opposed to the Dreamcasts stick, but it managed ta feel remarkably similar and bad.
edit: to add to this I think Phantasy Star Ø pretty much proved this. Ya it may have been alil gimped by having dpad control as opposed to the Dreamcasts stick, but it managed ta feel remarkably similar and bad.
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To be honest, I've been playing Goldeneye a good deal the last month and I don't find it to have aged poorly. It's no doubt an inferior game to the PC FPSes of the era like Doom and Quake, but I don't think it's held back that severely by console / era limitations. The controls are restrictive compared to PC FPSes, but enemy behavior is also very restricted; the game feels very well-balanced around what you and the enemies can and cannot do - and there is a reasonable amount of combat strategy and finesse going on too, with the game's focus on locational damage and enemies having reliable hitstun states. (Perfect Dark is a bit rougher though. That framerate is really dicey, and it doesn't help that the game is a lot harder.)
This has gotta be one of the worst first posts I've seen in a while.
I've rediscovered PS1 thanks to the FF7 remake. I've been enjoying lots of PS1 era jRPGs a lot, and imo for the most part they've aged well, even graphically, HOWEVER...
Loading times, grinding, no save anywhere (or at least Suspend functionality) and other time waste mechanics (such as having to backtrack out of dungeons in Grandia wtf) def did not age well. My point is that most jRPGs from the PS1 era would be perfectly playable and enjoyable, even for newcomers, if they had the toggleable QoL features the FF7 port for PS4/Switch/PC had:
Loading times, grinding, no save anywhere (or at least Suspend functionality) and other time waste mechanics (such as having to backtrack out of dungeons in Grandia wtf) def did not age well. My point is that most jRPGs from the PS1 era would be perfectly playable and enjoyable, even for newcomers, if they had the toggleable QoL features the FF7 port for PS4/Switch/PC had:
- Turbo speed (mostly to beat the loading times, and other repetitive transitions such as battle results screens)
- Random encounters off (mostly when the encounters are incessant or when you're revisiting places)
- Save anywhere / Suspend (kinda comes for free as part of the Switch and PS4 OSs)
Ocarina of Time, Metroid Prime, Super Mario World...honestly, almost every game released before the HD era that doesn't rely on its story or characters.
If the graphics and controls haven't aged poorly, then the overall level and world design seriously lacks refinement compared to the very best modern games in their genres.
If the graphics and controls haven't aged poorly, then the overall level and world design seriously lacks refinement compared to the very best modern games in their genres.
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I'm really not a fan of the Gameboy Zelda games (Link's Awakening, Oracle of Seasons/Ages).
I tried playing them on the 3DS a few years ago and the lack of buttons really kills the Zelda gameplay IMO. Only having TWO buttons is just rough, needing to constantly swap out your shield for whatever item you need at that moment, which can vary from screen to screen (the strength gloves/bracelet needing to be equipped is stupid too).
And at least in the Oracle games I found the maps to be needlessly maze-like. I needed to play the game with a guide just to figure out how to get from one dungeon to the next. Exploration isn't that fun if you just hit dead ends everywhere.
Shotguning Flood and riding the Warthog is still great though.
I tried playing them on the 3DS a few years ago and the lack of buttons really kills the Zelda gameplay IMO. Only having TWO buttons is just rough, needing to constantly swap out your shield for whatever item you need at that moment, which can vary from screen to screen (the strength gloves/bracelet needing to be equipped is stupid too).
And at least in the Oracle games I found the maps to be needlessly maze-like. I needed to play the game with a guide just to figure out how to get from one dungeon to the next. Exploration isn't that fun if you just hit dead ends everywhere.
I tried replaying it for the dozenth time (or more) this year after not playing it for years, and I admit I got kinda bored with it.
Shotguning Flood and riding the Warthog is still great though.
Sonic Mania being acclaimed in 2017 is hard evidence that this is objectively not true.
Popular beloved franchise. Am I doing it right?
Honestly I would say zelda 2 has not aged well in terms of gameplay. It's still a good game, it's just a very difficult one and was always the weakest of the console zelda games.
Honestly I would say zelda 2 has not aged well in terms of gameplay. It's still a good game, it's just a very difficult one and was always the weakest of the console zelda games.
Super Mario Bros: if you play without save states, game is hard as nails. It is so hard to anticipate things coming to you. Nowadays most platformers have a much smoother gameplay, with double jump, more forgiving timing for jumps...I get this game brought a lot to video games in general, but this one really feels dated.1The game also requires to run,which makes it stressful.This is way I prefer Super Mario Land, a shorter and more forgiving game.
I tried to play the first Uncharted again as the remaster was free on PS lately. Although the story and characters are great, the graphics and especially the gameplay have aged so bad, that I will skip it and go straight ahead to part 2.