Actually, this being the second cutscene in the game, you don't really know that Sanctus is a demon or evil, just that he's a Sparda worshipping dude who's styled after the pope. It's an execution, and Dante even brazenly poses with the old man's blood and bits of brain all over his face.
Oh I see where you're going at, yeah, they're pretty similar in that regard.
I think both scenes go for shock value yet serve a narrative objective beyond that: in DMC4, the scene is meant to cast doubt over Dante's allegiance; in DmC, the scene is meant to foreshadow Vergil's true agenda and lack of regards towards the safety of humans.
I wouldn't say that DmC is unaware of how ridiculous it is. I mean this is apparent in the first level of the game:Another good game to compare would be Metal Gear Rising
Edgy as a knife, main character wants revenge, eyepatch has high heels.etc.lots of pointless dialogue about stuff, lots of cursing.
Yet, while MGR and DmC don't have particularly good stories or characters, i have to give the edge to Rising because it knows its ridiculous and plays with it, resulting in a few awesome cutscenes with lots of character, many gamers enjoyed/remember Raiden vs Armstrong more than any scene in DmC.there is a charm in over the top stuff that DmC forgot pursuing more conventional methods that fans missed.
But of course its not for everyone, DMC and certain games simply aren't for everyone
I swear I've been saying this for entirely too long...Devil may cry's first scene, (literally the name though), is a demon looking dude surrounded by flames swinging his sword at nothing while narration plays:
The game cuts to a scene where a woman wearing sunglasses in the middle of the night drops then from a blood red moon before looking at a shop literally named devil may cry:
We are then treated to our first glimpse of the shop, which is filled with skulls pinned to the wall by swords, alcohol bottles all over the place, the woman finds a motorcycle, and then drives the entrance:
Our protagonist is so cool that this literally doesn't phase him. They then proceed to make sex puns while he grabs his di-I mean sword off of this poster:
DMC1 was pure edge mixed with anime cliches. DmC was pure edge mixed with tv show cliches.
The above isn't tryhard?
The second time i've seen you saying some dumb shit about Mr. Robot. This one is even worse than that.
Why generalize to the entire company? The answer is simple, when you are at workfield, you become the representative of your company, especially when you are doing a public presentation in front of your audience. Why do i generalize the whole company? Because he is literally on behalf of his company
Not that I agree that Dante was designed after Tameem, but it is incredibly narcissistic to insert yourself as the protagonist of a story you're hoping to sell really well.
I think they just wanted to show that he looked like a weird anime cowboy.
I think there's some confusion about the slides. Plenty of those slides were indeed about how old Dante is lame, and new Dante will be cool, but if I recall correctly the Brokeback one was from a series of slides that were supposed to show that old Dante's design doesn't fit with the cool, cinematic aesthetic that they were going for. They wanted to show that his design needed to be grounded with a visual make-over. Dante in Brokeback in that slide was supposed to illustrate that he stands out, which he admittedly does, not so much that he's implied to be gay. If anything, the implication would be that the new Dante would blend in better than the old one.
Now we're asking the right questions.
If anything that scene looks dumb due to excessive censoring (which is probably why it's cut in the DE), it would fit the style of the game more if it was done like the intro where most of the explicit stuff is implied but you at least see that Dante is not quite human. Suppose Mundus was shown in a demonic form twisting Lilith around and suddenly it serves as a way to further distance Mundus and Lilith from their more human-looking shells.
I've seen plenty of examples of amazing high-level playing in DmC, such as
Speak for yourself, "Flock off, feather face" is the height of English literature.
I won't disagree that it is a atrocious game, but for me NG3 vanilla is a special kind of bad and one of the biggest examples of a total failure of everything they were trying to achieve; it's like a videogame version of a bad movie that is trying super hard to be something that it's not, a serious drama with high aspirations that is actually just horrible schlock, Yaiba is like sharknado bad, way too intentional in it's tone to be of note to me personally.
I feel like this is probably one of the most misunderstood moment in history. He did intentionally have his hair like the redesign, but probably in a fun way. But people didn't like the reveal of the remake and that fun action turned into things like calling him a narcissist.
I think that maybe DmC could've used with a traditional Bloody Palace on top of their spin on the Bloody Palace, it might've been the case where you'd get more interesting and challenging combination of enemies aside from the stuff already in the 100 levels they programmed. Or maybe they should've made a combat arena similar to the one in classic GOW games, where you choose what kinds of enemies you face. Though I have to say that, at least in the DE, between Bloody Palace and all the difficulty settings, there's lots of content to get around (I've yet to finish Gods Must Die, I play it off and on every now and then).
DMC4 Dante in particular is so insufferable. Then again, pretty much every character in that game is, it really hurts my desire to revisit the game.
That's because you're a DmC fanboi that can't even acknowledge it's flaws, of which DmC has many. Hell, I was even on board for the whole punk aesthetic, but they couldn't even get that down right because when it comes down to it, the game lacks an identity because it doesn't know what it wants to be, so it essentially commits to nothing and dabbles in everything, which makes the game mediocre as fuck.
Not to mention is that the story in general feels like DMC3 retelling.
I think it's not simply a retelling, as there's this element of Vergil using humans insidiously for his goals instead just wanting to be stronger for the sake of being strong. Plus the interactions between Kat and Dante are much more down to Earth than, say, the stuff between Dante and Lady. I really like overall how both games approached it, so I have no problems with that, much how I don't mind that Batman Begins is a retelling of Batman Year One or any other number of origin stories that Batman had before. It also helps that Dante in DMC3 isn't insufferable like he is in 4.
