we don't know anything about what you'll have to buy because they didn't talk about pricing in the presentation
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Google formally unveils the "Stadia" launching in 2019
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Completely free of lag? No. Where lag was enough of an issue to make any game unplayable or even unpalattable? Yeah.
I played the original borderlands on OnLive as well.
I'm 99% sure the numbers DF had in that slide are all for streaming modes, i.e. the Xbox entry is you streaming your Xbone locally to PC. The PC entries are local streaming by steam link. The numbers make no sense otherwise. They should have been more specific.
That's fine. But it's more the concept of the machine that I have a lack of interest in. Streaming games just isn't my jam.
It was a really bad presentation for developers, who are now left with vague ideas and promises but no knowledge about how they can make money or what kinds of games they can realistically make.
It seems to be targeting a more mainstream audience who don't own consoles, and never will. If, however, there's someone who's thinking of buying a console, they're probably going to second-guess before buying a Stadia.
Google may be promising the best of what a console and PC have to offer, but in reality I doubt it'll be as satisfying as either for many of the reasons already mentioned.
Interesting to see how it'll compare to the Steam Machine.
Google may be promising the best of what a console and PC have to offer, but in reality I doubt it'll be as satisfying as either for many of the reasons already mentioned.
Interesting to see how it'll compare to the Steam Machine.
The company with more money than god can't even get the damn reveal right. Google could do anything they wanted but instead make an always online Ouya.
Not quite their wet dream: you'd also be paying full price plus DLC. That can't possibly be the case here.
But yeah...I'll be in my game room playing games I actually own, thanks.
No clue. The majority of people I know game in some way and so far they're about as negative as I am about this thing. No idea who this device is really for even though they claim it's for everyone.
The whole presentation came across as a bunch of people who are clueless about gaming. Basically howdoyoudofellowkids.jpeg stretched over an entire hour.
Oh sure, but it does show they are in it for the long haul.
You've really sold me by telling me about the other negatives
First and only. Nobody else is making a streaming-only game console with exclusive games and its own development hardware. This isn't just a system to stream PC games, you have to build your game specifically for Stadia just like any other console. Even Assassin's Creed Odyssey had to be ported to Stadia, rather than just streaming the PC version.
They should have shown off Stadia using RDR2. An extra second of latency on that game is basically negligible.
So... publisher heaven then. They'll be all behind this. Watch as your favorite game just disappears forever whenever a publisher pulls the plug on it, with no way to ever replay it.
Though for mods, I'm assuming that developers with a bit of common sense will implement ways to make it happen while monetizing it at the same time.
Hm?
The only piece of hardware revealed is a controller and from what I see it has no headphone jack.
Bad Google.
I'm interested in learning more. A lot of the concepts and ideas sound cool like using datacenters to pump out more grafix, StateShare, couch co-op and the ability to boot up a game from just a link while watching a streamer play. I'm curious to see how it all plays out. Plus another way for more people to get into games is always a good thing.
I still would like to know the pricing as I feel like this service could live or die by it., what kind of download speed would one need to be able to get the 'proper' experience out of this or at the very least what kind of download speed do I need to get even 1080p60 going? No exclusive games also leaves me very much on the fence though its not a complete deal breaker for me either.
If people hadn't already gotten to test drive it with Project Stream I'd be much more skeptical about the latency issues, so I'm not worried about that part of it if anyone could pull off low latency gaming at such high fidelity it would be Google.
I still would like to know the pricing as I feel like this service could live or die by it., what kind of download speed would one need to be able to get the 'proper' experience out of this or at the very least what kind of download speed do I need to get even 1080p60 going? No exclusive games also leaves me very much on the fence though its not a complete deal breaker for me either.
If people hadn't already gotten to test drive it with Project Stream I'd be much more skeptical about the latency issues, so I'm not worried about that part of it if anyone could pull off low latency gaming at such high fidelity it would be Google.
Again, there's not guarantee they'll get new releases fast or at all. If FIFA or CoD 2019 for example isn't on it, the possible improved performance doesn't matter.
Okay? I'm not trying to sell anyone on the service.... Just people taking a 2 second gif out of context as the be all end all for lag is just ridiculous.
The reason why Microsoft named their consoles "Xbox" was because the original one was based on their Direct X abstraction layer for for PC Game software easier to communicate with the hardware. i.e a box based on technology on Direct X, hence Xbox. Nothing tryhard about it.
Chromebook, android mobile, PC laptop, TV, and a tablet (maybe iPad). Seamlessly switching between all of them on wifi.
Wow, that more than a second of lag. Not a very good result there.
At least from what I've played of Nvidia's solution, you can still tweak you in-game settings like normal (since you're playing a steam game).
So then telling devs to go sign up and learn more at https://stadia.dev/ was not in the presentation, and/or was a lie? Sure thing
If they have trials and demos, which surely they will, the great thing is that almost anyone can try it and see how well it works for them. As long as there is some trial period, you will know yourself how good it works for you.
they announced that they made a first party studio
The thing you have to consider though is the venue this is being demoed in. It's GDC where there's a lot of wireless networked devices being run. I wouldn't judge normal usage based on a convention center setting. That doesn't mean that lag won't be an issue but I wouldn't take this setting as proof of that either.
Image quality is much more important to games because you have to see incoming objects/characters/enemies, items you are searching for, etc. Especially playing on a smaller screen like a phone.
Im just saying just because people love doing the same for movies and TV does not mean that gaming through streaming will be received so fondly unless most the expected issues are ironed out. Convenience isn't going to make up for issues that make you want to stop playing the game you're streaming/take you out of the immersion.
Yep there are no other ways to buy movies than online downloads, not sure about where you are at but you can still find physical versions of things where I'm at. Also we have more than 2 options for digital downloads for movies and music. Even though I personally wouldn't be caught dead in this day and age with physical media.
Looks like Duder Comment's thread was right on the money, lol.
I need to hear more about pricing and revenue models (I'd definitely prefer a Netflix-style subscription). But I'd love to hear more about this in June.
For people insisting this "won't work well":
If you have <15mbps down: You're right.
If you have >20mbps down: Give it a try when it launches. You might be pleasantly surprised, as I was with the beta :)
I need to hear more about pricing and revenue models (I'd definitely prefer a Netflix-style subscription). But I'd love to hear more about this in June.
For people insisting this "won't work well":
If you have <15mbps down: You're right.
If you have >20mbps down: Give it a try when it launches. You might be pleasantly surprised, as I was with the beta :)
It was hard to tell from all the streaming video glitches that we saw.
No one cares about back catalogues, they want to play new games. All the Switch ports in the world didn't sell that console.
I don't even see how this will appeal to existing console owners unless the prices are amazing.
I trust the ID guy saying it only a took a few weeks to port it over, so that's not bad.
If you need to tell people to go sign up for a newsletter to get relevant information in your hour long press conference, how is it a good hour long press conference lmao
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Still silly, sure, but these hot twitter takes are really something.
Gasp! Could it be pre-recorded like 99% of other presentations!?
Still silly, sure, but these hot twitter takes are really something.
well that's SOMETHING
i'm guessing one first party studio won't be enough for a decent bandwidth of exclusive games released though