Google just posted the Pixel 4's design on twitter for some reason

NameUser

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Oct 25, 2017
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It’s flush against the back where you’ll never be seeing it anyway, what’s the problem here exactly?
I just wish smartphone makers would try to innovate in other ways. They keep focusing on the cameras and I feel like we’ve reached a point to where it no longer matters. Cause even budget phones have great ones now. And all of it seems like overkill when most users are just taking pictures for Instagram and Facebook, pictures that are basically downgraded.

Idk, I know there are professionals who use smartphones camera to create content, but it’s too much for the average person.

Seems like escalation just for the sake of escalation 😭
 

WillyFive

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How irrational does one have to be to claim that Google is copying a phone that doesn't even exist yet?
You’re kidding right?

Google knows their design is based on the iPhone, so they are trying ti beat them to the market. This isn’t a new thing, not even outside of Google. It was being done with analog sticks back in the 90s, as companies like Sega raced to put analog sticks in their controllers in time for the launch of the N64.
 
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I just wish smartphone makers would try to innovate in other ways. They keep focusing on the cameras and I feel like we’ve reached a point to where it no longer matters. Cause even budget phones have great ones now. And all of it seems like overkill when most users are just taking pictures for Instagram and Facebook, pictures that are basically downgraded.

Idk, I know there are professionals who use smartphones camera to create content, but it’s too much for the average person.

Seems like escalation just for the sake of escalation 😭
Google has always made the fidelity of their cameras their #1 feature and have been an industry leader in this regard, so it's a little odd to get mad at them in particular for iterating on the camera. Also we don't know anything about the phone besides looks, how do you know they aren't innovating in other ways?

In addition, there are many other phones out there innovating in great ways. Samsung has added fingerprint ID on their screen and can charge other devices wirelessly with the S10, Xiaomi has a camera underneath the display, LG G8 has a vibrating OLED screen that functions as a speaker, and Apple has pioneered truly secure FaceID scanner, just to name a few. I'm not sure what else people are expecting in terms of "innovation", when in reality the technology is developing fairly consistently with cameras only being one of the factors.

It's like the back of a car, plenty of people care. I don't personally.
I'd understand if it was bulging out and affecting the aesthetics and literal balance of the phone (it's not). It's as flat and nondescript as if it weren't even there, only calling attention to itself if you slap a case on it, which all phones have cameras there anyway.
 

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You’re kidding right?

Google knows their design is based on the iPhone, so they are trying ti beat them to the market. This isn’t a new thing, not even outside of Google. It was being done with analog sticks back in the 90s, as companies like Sega raced to put analog sticks in their controllers in time for the launch of the N64.
This is ridiculous. There's no way Google decided to completely redesign their phone at the last minute over the last few weeks because the iPhone XI has a square camera cut out on the back. What an asinine argument.
 

CosmicGP

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So they took the iphone square camera bump design, made it look better, then released it first. Cheeky. (assuming the invisible lenses and overall matt surface is how it will look)
 

Blue

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I just wish smartphone makers would try to innovate in other ways. They keep focusing on the cameras and I feel like we’ve reached a point to where it no longer matters. Cause even budget phones have great ones now. And all of it seems like overkill when most users are just taking pictures for Instagram and Facebook, pictures that are basically downgraded.

Idk, I know there are professionals who use smartphones camera to create content, but it’s too much for the average person.

Seems like escalation just for the sake of escalation 😭
I think you should take a moment and use a real camera again. Phones still have a long ways to go.
 

DavidDesu

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Not a fan of the forehead. Is it so difficult to just make a phone that is symmetrical? Same with the slight chins on most Android phones now like the S10s. I'm happy with what the smaller Pixel 3 has done. A symmetrical fairly narrow chin and forehead. I also think practically having a little bit of room at the bottom helps ergonomics as it's quite precarious trying to use a navigation strip right at the very bottom of the phone's face.

I'm fairly happy with my Pixel 2 except for the issue below and my battery health being at about 70%, but if nothing compelling is released when my contract is up next January I think I'll get the battery replaced and rock this until something I like hits (like a full screen modern spec iPhone SE being my dream phone).

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Ahh, finally a Pixel thread! Off topic but has anyone else with a Pixel 2 having issues with Pull to Refresh in Chrome activating midway down a page when you try to scroll down. I'm getting it happen really frequently and it's bugging the hell out of me. Keep refreshing pages when I'm nowhere near the top of the page.
 

NameUser

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I think you should take a moment and use a real camera again. Phones still have a long ways to go.
I have an expensive DSLR. What I mean is—smartphone cameras aren’t more than good enough for the average person taking selfies and Instagram photos. Obviously they’re still behind professional ones.
 

Blue

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I have an expensive DSLR. What I mean is—smartphone cameras aren’t more than good enough for the average person taking selfies and Instagram photos. Obviously they’re still behind professional ones.
I have a 10 month old and want phone cameras to get better. It is also the single feature that drives my purchase decisions. I imagine it is the same for a good portion of the market.
 

Brandson

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I have a 10 month old and want phone cameras to get better. It is also the single feature that drives my purchase decisions. I imagine it is the same for a good portion of the market.
As an owner of a DSLR and bunch of prime lenses, with little kids I agree it is much more useful having a good camera phone in your pocket all the time, compared to an awesome camera on your shelf. So I appreciate that mobile phone cameras continue to improve every year. I'm especially looking forward to Light's sensor arrays improving and appearing on more phones in the coming years.
 

signal

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Wonder if they’ll still be targeting the upper high end and then release a cheapo 4a version or just lower the price of this one a bit.