So it looks like just Destiny 2 as part of the sub service, with purchasing other games at launch.
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So it looks like just Destiny 2 as part of the sub service, with purchasing other games at launch.
Yeah, Destiny 2 is the free game you get for subscribing to Stadia Pro, the other games they announced are the launch games available to buy.
Doesnt the shield tv have an ultra chromecast built in? Wonder if i can just use that, I travel with that thing as is.
I still don't have a 4K TV and I would imagine a lot of others don't either. I do however have a 1440p monitor.
It would be great for staying with my parents during the holidays
That's a pipe dream, Sony just raised the price in Japan and UK.
Can someone clarify for me:
Can I play games in a browser on launch day with a Stadia Pro sub?
Can I play games in a browser on launch day with a Stadia Pro sub?
No... Maybe
It's not clear as you a have guest pass to give away when you buy the founder edition and I don't see how else they would be able to use it.
Sony doesn't have Google's infrastructure and infrastructure is the feature that will make Stadia and Xbox's streaming service successful. With Stadia I have a Google datacenter within 30 miles of my location. So I'll be getting the best experience possible.
I fully expected Sony to partner with them due to the fact that AWS is a market leader in the cloud space. They probably were in discussions but Jeff Beelzebos probably wanted Sony's firstborn.
Hell, Amazon could purchase Sony.
Yes you can. You can use the Chrome browser on your Laptop/PC, play on your TV via Chromecast Ultra, or on your Pixel 3/4 phone at launch. Other platforms will be available in 2020.
Hm, I was convinced it would work, just that Stadia Base would roll out later. Especially since their initial tests were in Chrome already.
Yes you can. You can use the Chrome browser on your Laptop/PC, play on your TV via Chromecast Ultra, or on your Pixel 3/4 phone at launch. Other platforms will be available in 2020.
It says so in the preorder email:
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- Watch for your bundle in the mail. Unbox Stadia Founder's Edition and start playing games on your TV and across laptops, desktops, and Pixel 3 and 3a.
Wouldn't be any more lag than you're already getting playing your fighting games online.
Not really, your stacking latency from the stream AND the online play
I am hoping it's actually even better with Stadia. Since most fighting games these days don't have dedicated servers, if you're not the host your input has to go from your controller, to the cloud, to the hosts machine to register. With Stadia it should be a level playing field. Again I'll hold off judgement until I can try it for myself, but I'm hopeful.
Except both parties are already connected to the same stadia instance. The local machine running this instance won't introduce any more lag. You hit a button your inputs go to the cloud server and that's it the server doesn't have any local hardware of your own to send a ping back to so your local machine can register hits and whatnot. Stadia should actually eliminate lag when playing online against other people since the local machine is doing all the computing between everyone playing on that instance.
Ah, fuck it. Ordered. Here's the answer in case you were wondering.
We'll get started on your order. You'll see a temporary authorization hold on your account for this order, but you won't be charged for an item until it ships. When it does, you'll get a shipping confirmation email.
We'll get started on your order. You'll see a temporary authorization hold on your account for this order, but you won't be charged for an item until it ships. When it does, you'll get a shipping confirmation email.
That doesnt make sense. The instance is running the game of a machine in which you remote to. The machine then connect to the online service(ubi, ea, who ever).
Sure, exclusives are always a problem for owners of other platforms.
Gotta wonder how much Google is willing to open its wallet and for how long, both in terms of money hatting and when it comes to funding their own games.
Based on my experience with project stream, Google has a pretty good shot at getting my business with this. I need to know how much the games will be regularly, and whether or not we'll be getting sales/discounts/etc. I also need to know how many "free" games you get each month with the Pro package.
Lol I have that effect email and did not even notice that, it's not even a long email...
I feel like Google has been vague when it comes to any platform not natively google but I know they want you to be able to launch from Chrome. If they just outright state I can play from an iPad at launch I'll consider pre-ordering.
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iOS isn't a launch device.
- Watch for your bundle in the mail. Unbox Stadia Founder's Edition and start playing games on your TV and across laptops, desktops, and Pixel 3 and 3a.
Devices you should be able to play on in 2020 and beyond are:
- iPhone / iPad
- Android TV
- Chromecast
- More Android phones
When those will come is up in the air for now, but you for sure won't be able to play on them in 2019.
I currently have a 15mpbs / 300GB data monthly plan for $38 CDN, which is plenty enough for most of my gaming and movie/TV streaming needs. If I want to move into Stadia Pro territory, I'd have to pick the 60mpbs/unlimited data plan, which racks up the bill to $63 CDN. That's $25 more, monthly, that I would have to pay. That's $300/year more. Assuming a full console generation of around 6 years, that's $1,800 in total. Imagine how many PS5's I could buy with all that money instead. So no. Fuck this. Google needs to get all ISPs to severely drop their prices before this becomes even remotely viable for the average gamer.
Why would the onus be on Google? They are not the first streaming service.
There are customers where this is not a problem and that will be their target audience.
This is what google should take their sights on. This is stuff only they can do due to being a cloud exclusive gaming service.
I'm curious but not yet fully on board. I need to see some live gameplay and press reactions to see how feasible this is. Especially for shooters like Destiny, there is a lot going on there and its not a game I want to feel input lag.
I'm more interested how this will be marketed with the Pixel 4. I'm on the fence for switching from my S9+ to a Pixel, and if there is some cross-promotion with Stadia that would be really enticing. Also positioning the Pixel 4 as a place to play Stadia is a smart play in selling the phone.
I'm more interested how this will be marketed with the Pixel 4. I'm on the fence for switching from my S9+ to a Pixel, and if there is some cross-promotion with Stadia that would be really enticing. Also positioning the Pixel 4 as a place to play Stadia is a smart play in selling the phone.
Sony is partnering with Microsoft for this.
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It was announced in mid May,
Yup. Stadia has a unique advantage here if they ever decide to fully utilize it. They never have to take into account a local plastic box or offline.
What do buddy subscribers play with, if you can't currently seem to buy a controller? Will the normal pro subscription be available in November or only founders pack?
Wonder if you can use it yourself to get 6 months total service? Probably not - they'd want to use it to spread the word
Wonder if you can use it yourself to get 6 months total service? Probably not - they'd want to use it to spread the word
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The OP, at the bottom states that buddies can play buy buying a controller or using any other supported device. Stadia controller will be available to purchase eventually.
Buddy subscribers won't be available at launch. The fine print on the website says buddy-pass codes will be sent out "within 6 months of of delivery of your Founder's Edition", so probably when the service goes live for everyone.
The normal pro subscription won't be available until the full service goes live in 2020, you need the founder's pack to play in 2019.
A lot of times the "capped data/unlimited data" is a bluff on the ISP's part, if you threaten to leave to another ISP or say the other ISP is offering unlimited data as a perk to get you to switch over they'll often cave on the unlimited data part, they really don't give a crap about that.
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Yeah, with traditional consoles you have low input lag, but high positional lag, where the two computers disagree where things are in the world. Having the computers remote and close together reduces the positional lag, but increases the input lag. That does assume that the two players are connected to the same data centre. If one player is in France and one in Canada then this isn't going to help at all.
I just pinged google and it takes around 20ms which is just over one frame of lag. But that's there and back, so the server will get my controls in 10ms. Then it has to update the game, render, encode, and send the video back. My computer then decodes and plays the video and I see the reaction to my button press. I assume this is slower than my local computer updating the game and rendering on its graphics card. Then you've got display and audio lag in your TV, but that would be the case with a local computer, so we can ignore that.
Some existing games have lag in the engine, so if you can minimise that for cloud run games, (some Unreal based games have been updated to reduce input lag before), then you may not notice any difference — if your improvement matches the lag introduced by the cloud system. Of course, if your game is already as fast as it can be locally, then it's going to be worse.
The thing with normal streaming video is that you maintain a buffer of data that will keep the video playing locally if there's an interruption in your connection. A buffer will introduce input lag, but no buffer will cause the video to stop playing if there's a problem. Maybe you only need a single frame of buffer if the connection is good.
I can't get my head around how they can render all these games if millions of people play at the same time.
I play a lot of fighting games, so I don't think this system is for me. But it is technically interesting and I'm sure it'll be great for most games. The fact that yesterday's video occasionally dropped in quality as it played on my computer was hilarious however ;D
Where do you test this ping
So your input lag with stadia will only be 20ms? Isn't this basically the same as local hardware?
Windows command prompt.
Another thing to consider is the wifi controller. The fighting game community are always complaining about wifi connections. I wonder if there will be a wired alternative.
I hope there's a way to filter out mouse and keyboard users because don't want to play with them
In this case a wired controller would be slower. The whole point of the wifi controller is it connects directly to the server over wifi, if you connect it to a device which then connects its input to the internet, you are adding latency. Unless maybe you could connect an ethernet cable to the controller going straight into your router...
(but yes, you can use a wired xbox one or PS4 controller plugged into your computer if you are using that for Stadia)
Yeah, I was thinking of a direct connection. Kinda cool.
I think it's the former unfortunately and it's the reason that Stadia can't truly be the place for multiplayer games.
20ms on top of the input lag from your tv and the native input lag from the game itself, plus input lag from the hardware.
Ideal In home wifi streaming latency is typically around 2-5ms.
Local is 0ms because you are local and so nothing has to be transmitted before the thing knows you are pressing buttons so your only dealing with native latency from the hardware and the game itself.
Stadia is basically a man in the middle everything is going to be slower no matter what.
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