Launch is a month away without an official date. That's worrying.
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Google Stadia Pro (4K/60, 5.1 surround) $9.99 a month. Stadia Base (1080/60) requires no subscription.
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Launch is a month away without an official date. That's worrying.
As someone who's PC is currently broken and has no idea which part is failing, I feel kinda the same as you. The $10 a month for Stadia Pro is nothing compared to the amount I spend on my PC and I'd never have to troubleshoot anything ever again. I thought an Xbox One X could become my main gaming machine but there are too many games that aren't X enhanced and barely any of the ones that are run in 60fps.
Though I still feel some trepidation about investing in Stadia and potentially losing access to my games. And the launch library is missing anything I want to play that I haven't already so I can't see a reason to buy the Founder's Edition.
You have to have a Founders Edition, or a buddy pass from someone who has the Founders Edition. I imagine a lot of the latter will be available on eBay, the buy/sell/trade thread here, etc.
Ah damn, I was hoping it would be open for all to subscribe. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
That's my thought as well. They still need to ship out the units.
Need the Chromecast ultra if you want to play on TV until they announce otherwise. On pc chrome browser I think they're fine.
Wait would those playing on TV via Chromecast need to buy the controller as well? I'm guessing there's no way to hook up kbm or ds4 to a tv
I wonder for how long I can be idle until the close my session, currently on GeForce NOW is like 5 minutes and it sucks.
This is probably what I'll be doing for Flight Simulator. Funny kinda feeling that at that point I will be on multiple game streaming services (and I also have PS Now). It's like a whole other layer of gaming "devices", except with service wrappings around them.
I don't think so. I'm old enough to remember the uncertainty there was around console launches in the 8/16 bit days. I think, over time people aligned around various expectations around launches, in a large part tied to inventory control and distribution considerations. You strategically planned your marketing around a date that meshed well with your logistics of delivering your product to stores.
With Stadia there are obviously no physical delivery considerations. They should be able to choose a date, announce it, and then just flick a switch, right? But in fact, there are other types of delivery considerations. If you want a smooth rollout of an online service, you will be coordinating your launch with several internal and partner teams, and this both takes time and needs a level of "room to maneuver" to carry it out.
So you have to look at the launch of a service like this less like traditional game products, and more like how the rollout of a major online website or service goes. And typically, for those, there is a rolling release date.
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Jesus you are right, i bet folks will start randomly getting them around mid Nov. But there will be no rhyme or reasons to who gets one
I have a feeling they said it was 15 minutes, but I could just be mis-remembering it.
I can see Stadia getting off to a really rough, problem-filled start.
Will be interesting to see Stadia "beta tested" for another year or more. IMO, Project Stream / AssCreed seemed more like an Alpha test. In November Stadia is going into its "real" Beta test, even though Google calls it an official launch.
I'm really curious to see how far Stadia and xCloud come by say, May 2021 or so (~6 months after PS5/Scarlett launch) as far as streaming next-generation games that aren't out until late 2020 early 2021.
Will be interesting to see Stadia "beta tested" for another year or more. IMO, Project Stream / AssCreed seemed more like an Alpha test. In November Stadia is going into its "real" Beta test, even though Google calls it an official launch.
I'm really curious to see how far Stadia and xCloud come by say, May 2021 or so (~6 months after PS5/Scarlett launch) as far as streaming next-generation games that aren't out until late 2020 early 2021.
It's possible, in fact more likely than not. But I don't think most people buying the Founders Edition are expecting a completely smooth thing, right? I feel like most people realize it's essentially a public beta.
That might instead be the time it takes for a session to get cut off after you lose connection which is apparently ~10-15 mins. I asked that question on Reddit before. I was almost going to answer that to the idle time as well till I realized it wasn't the same thing.
I think the November launch of Stadia will be really solid in terms of the core streaming technology. Of course there will be bad experiences because internet quality varies wildly, but I think the overwhelming majority of "founders" who try it will find it's a totally viable way to play AAA games and more forgiving to bad connections than anyone expected.
Where it'll probably falter is in the whole overarching service layer. I don't think we're gonna get much more than the basics at launch. Friends lists, party invites, but not much more. These are the features they'll build out pretty quickly over the founder period, into the "real" global launch of the base tier, and beyond.
Where it'll probably falter is in the whole overarching service layer. I don't think we're gonna get much more than the basics at launch. Friends lists, party invites, but not much more. These are the features they'll build out pretty quickly over the founder period, into the "real" global launch of the base tier, and beyond.
I think pricing and game offering are likely to be a much bigger issue. Maybe the service could measure up to or exceed a console offering but if it doesn't have those consoles games (exclusives) then it won't actually be a replacement for those consoles so that's still where people will go.
To me the pricing arrangement as we know it is a non-issue. It's the same offer as every other gaming platform: you pay $60 and you "own" a game. It could go badly if Stadia is much weaker on sale prices, which I think is a real possibility compared to Steam or retail. It'll likely be more akin to console digital distribution which rarely reach the firesale prices we see elsewhere. But for new AAA games, I think the debates about ownership and offline gaming will not be significant outside of enthusiast forums.
Regarding console exclusives, imo you're missing like half of the best games of the generation if you don't own a Playstation. There's no way I won't get a PS5. So assuming I have both, and assuming the core gameplay experience is not compromised on Stadia, where will I buy most games? Will PS5 only be for exclusives, or will it be my primary platform? To me the convenience and portability of Stadia is really significant. Being able to take my $60 purchase from the living room to a laptop to a phone is very attractive. Immediately accessing my library with no install, patch, or firmware update is also very attractive. I'm willing to go along with the downsides of Stadia (always online being the main one to me) to get those benefits. It really comes down to how good the streaming is imo. Of course it's not going to be 0 (or negative!) latency, but within like 50ms, I don't think I can tell the difference. Same with the compression quality. Bluray is technically compressed, but it's the gold standard in home video quality. So will Stadia be closer to that, or closer to a low quality youtube stream? We'll find out next month.
I have Firestick in every TV, but at least with the Amazon Disney spat the Chromecast will be useful to watch Disney+ on
Yes I think you're right. I'm on the Stadia sub reddit quite a bit so probably saw it there myself after you asked.
I just finished reading the stadia feature on Edge and it got me out of the "no news" funk I've been in about it. They liked it quite a bit and also liked the controller feel. I just want to see a demo of the UI etc. I was thinking about what else I need/want to see and I realized I really want to see side by sides of a game on say the PS4 Pro/Xbox One X vs that same game on Stadia. I'm assuming that it will be like comparing the same game from console to high end PC settings but I want to see it on stadia. I'm probably one of the users here most excited for Stadia and ordered day one but come on Google show me some love!!! LoL
heh, I'm in the reverse situation. I still need an Ultra, so I went for the Stadia Founders edition.
but remember at launch you need to buy the founder pack to access any of those.
Ah ok cool. I wonder if laptop / desktop support includes Macs.
Shame that it doesn't support iPad at launch.
My feeling is that the founders will be beta testers for many things. I think the core technology is there, but they need to stress servers, and ensure party/social works as desired. They probably also understand that founders are essentially either people with disposable income, pure fans of gaming willing to give new things a try, fans of google, and a small percentage of casuals who don't know any better so if something goes wrong the outcry would pale in comparison if they had released to the entire public. Maybe they understand they are on a tight leash with the public, so whatever they put out needs to be good.
If we are speculating here, this could simply be a tactic to minimize a Murphy's Law outcome on a mass user level.
No speculating -- one could say that is essentially what it is, and part and parcel of releasing a service today on a scale like this. Any other way of doing it would be folly.
taken from stadia page:
Stadia Support
On a computer
- A Google account
- Not compatible with Google for Work, Google for Education and certain other managed Google accounts
- Stadia Founder's Edition or a Stadia Buddy Pass
- A computer with a recent version of Chrome browser
- The Stadia app (available on Google Play or in the Apple App Store)
- The Android version requires a mobile device running Android 6.0 or greater
- The iOS version requires a mobile device running iOS 11.0 or greater
- A reliable Internet connection (10 Mbps or greater is recommended)
- A Stadia Controller, a mouse and keyboard, a Playstation DualShock® 4 Controller, an Xbox One Controller or another supported controller.
And from what I understand as long as you have the lastet build of the Chrome browser it should work on a Mac.
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It won't be a launch title, since I think the delay was to Feb next year or something. But I'm not sure whether it was ever slated in as a launch title for Stadia, or expected later.
Its sort of shocking that Google hasn't even been bothered to set some astroturfers up here lol. The level of excitement here, at a game enthusiast forum, where at the very least discussion would be highest and its practically nil. No one even claims that their uncle works at google. No leaks lol.
I would discuss Stadia and my optimism around the platform here but I don't think anyone wants to hear the positives of the platform? I've been an Onlive, ps now and Geforce Now user and can tell you without hesitation that if Google get this tech right it'll take off in a big way if the publishers jump on board.
I pre-ordered this forever ago, and I'm still trying to figure out if I want to cancel. It's not that expensive, and I'm intrigued by the controller / etc., but I have a PC and consoles and I'm not sure I really want to buy games piecemeal for full retail price for a streaming service.
If they don't end up having some sort of thing like gamepass / apple arcade / google play pass I'll likely just cancel it before whenever it comes out in November even though I thought the prior AC Odyssey streaming thing worked surprisingly well on my setup.
I need it to either support games I've purchased on other platforms or have some sort of all-you-can-eat option.
If they don't end up having some sort of thing like gamepass / apple arcade / google play pass I'll likely just cancel it before whenever it comes out in November even though I thought the prior AC Odyssey streaming thing worked surprisingly well on my setup.
I need it to either support games I've purchased on other platforms or have some sort of all-you-can-eat option.
Not here...yet
There is a ton of insecurity combined with console tribalism creating the constant shit posts for any Stadia thread.
Hopefully when the thing launches moderators will keep it in check like every other platform.
Yep. For now I'm keeping my in-depth knowledge and use-case history of the tech on the down low. I just can't wait to start using the service.
100% agree here. I was in the beta which was a full year ago, and it was in great technical shape even then. They have had a full year to continue working on the tech. Google has the infrastructure in place, so I don't expect the typical launch day overload will be an issue. At this point, the real questions are around value proposition and business model.
If they offered Control at 60fps at launch, I'd be jump in.
Every Stadia thread here is 10% honest discussion and 90% drive-by shitposts from people who clearly have no interest in learning anything about it or giving it a fair shake.
I agree, I fundamentally don't understand why it's viewed so negatively. If I was Google's marketing I would've launched it as a beta with a formal launch in spring with the free option.
Anyone in America who wants to buy Madden next year no longer has to buy a 400 dollar console.
I'm not saying it's great for hardcore gamers, but it's An amazing concept with a bright future.
Agreed, but to data EA had made no mention of developing for Stadia which is a huge need for Google to get the sport audience
That's basically what they are doing. Founder's Edition is for early adopters who don't mind everything not being perfect, and the formal launch with the free option is coming in "2020".
As for sports, it's launching with Football Manager 2020
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