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GOP in disarray ahead of tax plan rollout
- Thread starter Shard Shinjuku
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sounds like i got some phone calls to make - make sure to download 5 Calls, ya'll. it's really helpful.
Where's that CNN picture with the ticker quote of Trump saying something like "Eventually, we'll get something done"?
That's my favorite picture of the year I think
Edit: Oh fuck me it's Fox News that's even better
That's my favorite picture of the year I think
Edit: Oh fuck me it's Fox News that's even better
These clowns are incapable of governing. They spent so many years propping up the most extreme anti Obama candidates, feeding their radicalized base a steady stream of racist red meat, shutting down the government every time they didn't get their way, that they've completely forgotten how politics work.
They went full retard.
Never go full retard.
They went full retard.
Never go full retard.
Hopefully McCain insists on an open, slow process like healthcare and votes no again due to all the cloak and dagger shenanigans.
That would be a big win for the Democrats, by splitting the conservative vote.
What are you talking about? Obviously Hillary is at fault. Why isn't anyone talking about that?
Definitely, they'd have to form a coalition any time they wanted to get things done, which is a bit more complicated than getting a party to fall in line.
Of course, that's just wishful thinking. We're still a long way from that happening.
Actually, a lot of people are talking about that. Believe me; I hear a lot of people talking about Crooked Hillary and the obstructionist DEMS, and their bigly Uranium deal, which we are going to get to the bottom of. Meanwhile, I and I alone have crafted a massive, beautiful tax cut, that's great for all of my friends. MAGA!!
I look forward to this failing, and them backing away from Trump like a light scurries cockroaches.
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My question is how in the fuck are they going to get this in under budgetary reconciliation? The plan was always to gut healthcare and use that to pay for the tax cuts. Without that, there's no way it will be net negative on the budget surplus (unless it increases middle income taxes which is a death spell for the bill).
They won't need McCain to single-handedly kill it. The freedom caucus won't get onboard unless it's revenue neutral. They can't cut their way to that without losing moderate members.
" though others close to Ways and Means are more bullish it will happen."
There's a hidden message in there that brilliantly describes them.
There's a hidden message in there that brilliantly describes them.
Why did this do the exact same failed strategy from the first time.
So what happens if there is no tax plan this week? Do we have until next week? When is the deadline?
Trump getting elected is probably the worst thing that could happen to the GOP.
Trump getting elected is probably the worst thing that could happen to the GOP.
What's funny is that their sudden lurch to the right is making governing so much harder for them. If they still had any concept of moderation, they probably could've had another round of Bush tax cuts and a similar health care passed by now, but they refuse to do *anything* in moderation.
We take it for granted thay all 48 D/I Senators will vote against whatever garbage the GOP spews out, but in a normal political situation it would be hard for Manchin, Tester, and Heitkamp to vote 100% with their Democrat colleagues.
My hope is that the "moderate" House GOP members who were conned into voting for AHCA with the promise that the Senate would fix it are not as easily fooled this time. Let's drag this out closer and closer to the 2018 midterms.
We take it for granted thay all 48 D/I Senators will vote against whatever garbage the GOP spews out, but in a normal political situation it would be hard for Manchin, Tester, and Heitkamp to vote 100% with their Democrat colleagues.
My hope is that the "moderate" House GOP members who were conned into voting for AHCA with the promise that the Senate would fix it are not as easily fooled this time. Let's drag this out closer and closer to the 2018 midterms.
Never underestimate the apathy of American voters. Just yesterday I had a discussion with a young Lyft driver who told me she didn't like either party. This is a common refrain these days and Trump's awfulness hasn't really moved the needle. Remember: just because people hate Trump/the Republicans doesn't mean they'll love the democrats.
Ohh, right I forgot about that. God, that'll piss people off like no other. I think they were hoping it wouldn't be as bad as a direct tax hike but that's still going to not go down well.
