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Nimurai

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Oct 28, 2017
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Jesus Christ, I'm sorry but have you guys crying about this seen a traveling cooking show before? He's done this before even.

The point of it was to learn from the best in different parts of the world and ending it in a friendly cook off. How you interpret this as "cooking imperialism" is beyond me.

So you are worried that if Gordon wins a cook off with some chef it will declare the British superiority over that cousine? You do know he is a world class chef and doesn't officially represent the UK as if it was the world cup or something.
 

Kin5290

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Oct 26, 2017
3,390
Between Eater's clickbait take on the press release and their expensive food porn articles I can only conclude that they are a trash outlet for garbage people.
 

Gundam

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Oct 25, 2017
12,801
Even after reading everything, it still just comes off as


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itwasTuesday

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
8,078
It's like the old Throwdown with Bobby Flay, but Ramsay is going to different countries instead of different US cities. I think Flay lost a lot in those shows, but I don't really remember.
That's what it sounds like. I think I'm fine with the premise though, just have locals be the judge and not flown in guest chefs. Or a mix of.

As long as it doesn't come across as shitting on or belittling.
 
Oct 27, 2017
42,700
The only thing I know about him is how he screams at other chefs and seems to think that his food is the best on this planet. I find both disgusting, how can I enjoy such a show concept? =x
You need to stop watching his American shit. It's an act because Americans can't watch reality shows without forced faux drama. If you watch his Youtube channel vids or any of his British shows he's not really like that

However he does lose it sometimes if the person is incredibly shitty, but is suppose to be a professional
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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New York
"This Pani Puri is RAWWWWWWW. Good lord, the taste is so bland and drowned in spices! And you're using tap water!? You're killing your customers!"
 

SolidSnakex

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Oct 25, 2017
23,390
He'd be crazy to do this tv show without a pilot.

The pilot would be Ramsay's Great Escape. People who are unsure about the concept should really check it out. He's in no way disrespectful toward other cultures nor is he trying to show anyone up. I think too many people know him for being super angry due to how the US shows he's on are handled. Outside of Boiling Point, his UK shows are the complete opposite. He's much more subdue and jokes around a lot. And in the case of GE, he's never even angry. He's actually happy the entire time.
 

Chamaeleonx

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Oct 27, 2017
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You need to stop watching his American shit. It's an act because Americans can't watch reality shows without forced faux drama. If you watch his Youtube channel vids or any of his British shows he's not really like that

However he does lose it sometimes if the person is incredibly shitty, but is suppose to be a professional
I don't really watch him a lot, just have seen a few of these "clips" on Youtube and know of about it from conversations. Therefore my first assumption was that he would do the same there and that didn't paint a pretty picture in my mind.
 

TheOasis

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Oct 28, 2017
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It's not like Ramsay hasn't done this kind of stuff in the past. I don't get why anyone would be surprised by the premise for this show.
 

Artdayne

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Nov 7, 2017
5,015
The only thing I know about him is how he screams at other chefs and seems to think that his food is the best on this planet. I find both disgusting, how can I enjoy such a show concept? =x

I mean, there's only two other chefs with more Michelin Stars than him, which is the highest honor in the culinary profession, so he is indeed a world class chef and his food is some of the best on the planet.
 

sd_falter

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Oct 27, 2017
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Australia
I thought this was going to be about 24 Hours To Hell And Back and how absolutely goddamn ridiculous that restaurant for dogs episode was. I couldn't stop laughing at how bad of an idea that place was.

Lol I watched that episode last night and the whole thing was such a mess. It felt like Tim and Eric could pop up anytime and start doing one of their dodgy infomercials it was that bad an idea.
 

signal

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Oct 28, 2017
40,197
Join Ramsay as he scales roofs of caves to harvest fresh nests in Malaysian Borneo and puts fear aside to hunt tarantulas in Cambodia.
But he already did this exact thing. This show seems bland.
 

Vic_Viper

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Oct 25, 2017
29,051
Love Gordon Ramsay and his shows in the past. Just hate how Fox has pretty much stripped all the actual cooking from his shows.

This sounds like it will atleast have more of a focus on the food, but still not sure about the cook off aspect. Will watch either way!
 

Doggg

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Nov 17, 2017
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So if I got this straight, it's more like he tries to adapt their dishes to western kitchens so that his viewers can also experience them for themselves. The locals get to try his adaptations and compare them to their original dishes. This, to me, sounds more like a respectful sort of homage, a way of showing what he learned from their culture, not a way of denigrating them.

It would be kind of pointless, after all, to just try to one-up non-professional chefs. Of course he could just take a local dish and make it with foie gras or kobe keef or caviar or something like that instead, but I really doubt that's what he's doing.
 
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DevilMayGuy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like the tone of the OP is more aggressive than it needs to be and falsely paints the spirit of the show as far more disrespectful than it is.

Shocking. I've never seen someone exaggerate or mischaracterize anything on here before.

Because cook-offs != genocide.
Gordon Ramsay is literally committing genocide and ethnic cleansing right now. Why don't we hear more about it?
 

Ravensmash

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Oct 25, 2017
8,797
I don't know how 'Americanised' it's going to be, but I also think people are reading too much into the competition aspect.

It's probably going to be a food stall and them getting a casual poll.

And then Gordon says fuck a lot as he loses.
 

CGiRanger

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Oct 25, 2017
2,517
Love Gordon Ramsay and his shows in the past. Just hate how Fox has pretty much stripped all the actual cooking from his shows.

This sounds like it will atleast have more of a focus on the food, but still not sure about the cook off aspect. Will watch either way!
Sadly it's not just Fox, but Food Network itself has also gone down this route a lot with less focus on actual cooking (Alton Brown's Good Eats) and more on "competitions" and such. It's a shame.
 

Frozenprince

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fox has completely run out of ideas for Ramsay shows except they refuse to just make the one that people want.
 

Dog of Bork

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Oct 25, 2017
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This site is embarrassing to read, sometimes.

Sounds like it could be an interesting show. Hopefully it isn't as overproduced and ridiculous as hell's kitchen.
 

Wein Cruz

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Oct 27, 2017
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Even after reading everything, it still just comes off as


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Why are people going out of their way to embarrass themselves itt
 

D65

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Oct 26, 2017
6,862
There's a wonderful video of Ramsay attempting to cook Pad Thai for a Thai chef, only to be told what he cooked wasn't actually pad thai.



I'd watch for clips like this.

Edit - Beaten.


I hope you know that afterwards they served the food to monks and the one that had his food ate it all whereas the rest didn't finish their's.

It goes to show that culture and technical skill are two separate things. He made a British version of Pad Thai like they would sell in a London restaurant.
 

ReAxion

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Oct 26, 2017
3,882
Yeah that article seems really petty and as if they have some vendetta against Ramsay.

Maybe they're just a really cool (!) blog though - haven't seen them pop up elsewhere tbh.

they're a vox property focused on food, so they're big in that way. there are some names who work/have worked there that i enjoy. this is just snark-spinning a press release somebody else already posted.
 

Orayn

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't really like the way this is being pitched. Ainsley Harriott's street food show was similar, but they didn't make it sound adversarial, it was just him trying new dishes and making his own spin on them to share with the locals and original chefs in a friendly way.
 

Ravensmash

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't really like the way this is being pitched. Ainsley Harriott's street food show was similar, but they didn't make it sound adversarial, it was just him trying new dishes and making his own spin on them to share with the locals and original chefs in a friendly way.

I'd hope that this is exactly how it's going to play out though.

It's being done through Nat Geo, aren't they fairly decent when it comes to content in general?

I also don't think (hope) that Ramsay would sign up to something where he's screaming at local chefs lol
 

DukeBlue

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Nov 6, 2017
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I came in here sure that nobody would defend an arrogant white man going around the world "discovering the undiscovered", yet here we are.
 

llehuty

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Oct 25, 2017
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He was a guest in a korean cooking show last year and I think it's a good representation of the tone the show could have.

 

DongBeetle

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Oct 25, 2017
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Those thinking Gordon is just gonna shit on the culture and show off how much better he is dont really know who Gordon Ramsay is
 

Thisman

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Oct 25, 2017
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some of the folks here are trying to portray this as sinister or Impearilistic when as a person Gordon is a very sensible and multiculture embracing guy. The guy is also a genius so expect this to be good and funny. You can tell who hasn't watched much Gordon before because he is very respective and appreciative of other cultures and their foods
 

ruggiex

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Oct 27, 2017
3,083
Sounds like a fun way to explore the world using network's money. Hope the show turn out good.
 

Yung Coconut

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Oct 31, 2017
4,267
Don't see the problem here if he is respectful. Learning about other cultures and attempting to put said knowledge to use for bettering yourself in your chosen profession is just... SAD! Right?

I doubt he is going to run around screaming obscenities at the local chefs, telling them how they should be doing things or letting them know they aren't as good as he is at what they've spent their life doing. I'd guarantee most of the local chefs on the show will be his friends and peers. 99% sure you guys can move on to whatever else is the next outrage of the week for the forum without having to be worried you missed a chance to get really angry and let everyone on the internet know about it.

He made a living portraying himself as an asshole on Fox, so it's not that hard.

He made a living teaching people his profession with a short tempered, "I'll tell you how it really is" while yelling obscenities schtick. And people clearly think it's entertaining. Asshole though? Do you know the guy? I've watched lots of television so I know that person is a dbag!
 
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Hamchan

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Oct 25, 2017
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It only sounds bad in a press release and when you don't know the context of Ramsay actually being super respectful and friendly to the culture he's visiting.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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The pilot would be Ramsay's Great Escape. People who are unsure about the concept should really check it out. He's in no way disrespectful toward other cultures nor is he trying to show anyone up. I think too many people know him for being super angry due to how the US shows he's on are handled. Outside of Boiling Point, his UK shows are the complete opposite. He's much more subdue and jokes around a lot. And in the case of GE, he's never even angry. He's actually happy the entire time.

I've heard that his British shows are different tone.

But, I was mostly making a pun on the two meanings of pilot in this context :)
 

Bishop89

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Oct 25, 2017
34,645
Melbourne, Australia
I don't see the issue.
He is a chef superstar on the world stage, of course he can rival or exceed the local output. Any experienced chef from any country could as well...

And its not like he is going to be "haha You guys suck, Britain/Scotland #1 lmao wankers!"
 

AdrianG4

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Oct 29, 2017
565
lol this article is written in such a crap way

The show seems to be giving a lot of respect to other cultures while Ramsay tries his Best to cook those cultures dishes