Here's the premise straight from the press release
So can anyone explain what's so bad about it?
So can anyone explain what's so bad about it?
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Gordon Ramsay’s new show is something
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if they just skipped the competition part, this could actually be interesting
why would they put that in there
why would they put that in there
When he cooked buries I with one chef, he praised the hell out of it. Said it's as complicated as anything else in a Michelin Star restaurant, Ramsay is super respectful and the eater article is BS.
His main goals on great escape was about learning new techniques and incorporating that into his cooking, than he show cases what he learned.
There is nothing bad about. People tend to want to create outrage out of everything these days.
I'm excited for it. Seems neat!
This sounds awesome and literally Great Escape 2.0
Of course people w the constant knee jerk reactions to the clickbait title haven't seen, heard of and won't even bother to google that
I think the point is more for both Ramsey and the viewers to learn about more food cultures around the world while also seeing a master chef do his own spin on the dishes after learning about them rather than to prove that Ramsey can out do the locals. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the competition aspect was more introduced to make it more engaging for viewers rather than the original idea of the show
People just reading the OP and immediately going for the "concern" button.
You mean..
you mean he doesn't want to show the locals he can do it better than them?!
Surely not!
Just as expected. It's essentially another run of his Great Escape series which is great.
Eaters article is clickbait garbage!
OP's source didn't really describe it well enough for some + knee jerk reactions + history.
What is wrong with that opinion? You need to be a part of a culture to truly understand it. Gordon is not a part of these cultures.
Because competitions are interesting and the fake nature of his shows means he'll lose most of the time which will highlight how good chefs can be all over the world and also make Ramsay seem humble
History? He has similar older videos on his youtube channel and if those are anything to go by expect him to lose in every episode while praising the local cuisine.
Gordon Ramsay invents Fusion Cooking!
seriously though, I'm a fan, traditional ideas should be constantly challenged.
seriously though, I'm a fan, traditional ideas should be constantly challenged.
reading the press release, the competition seems like more of an afterthought that was probably added as a hook for the viewers since they might've been worried the average audience member would get bored if there was no test of skill at the end
"But but the Bourdain tweet was so clever I just had to get angry!"
This is nonsense, you can still appreciate and respect culture even if you're not a part of it.
Go watch Gordon's dream escape and Ramsay's kitchen nightmare and comeback to see Ramsay at his best.
You don't need to be part of a culture to COOK FOOD.
Gordon, a world renowned professional chef, will cook a dish better than some random person after he learns how to cook the original, and then brings in his experience and knowledge.
More generally, as above poster pointed out, you don't need to be part of a culture to learn about it and appreciate it.
Spoiler: You don't need to be Italian to be able to make good pasta, be Japanese to make good sushi or be American to make a good hamburger.
Probably what most episodes will amount to. The competition brings the appeal, but it's ultimately the learning experience that is to be gained from these sort of things that count the most.
EDIT: I see others in this thread have basically regurgitated this point, so it would seem some of us understand what is going on.
Shit, my white mom makes better Asian food than my Asian family.
This kind of show should be a disaster but it's Gordon Ramsay so it's probably going to be great.
So why even bother trying, right? Just sit at home and do fuck all and learn nothing about anything
It seems like it's one of Gordon's good shows (ie, the ones where he's actually being respectful and having fun) that someone in marketing tried to find a way to pitch to the "omg he's such a dick" portion of his fanbase.
From an initial hot level, yeah, I get why people would be concerned. However, Ramsey has done this schtick before, and he never gives the cultures anything but his utmost respect. Assuming this is the same the outrage isn't justified.
Clickbait tweet, clickbait thread.
Clickbait tweet, clickbait thread.
Or better yet, include the actual press release rather than someone's reaction to it.
For real, I better not make another meatball or a burrito in my life because I'm clearly cooking some sorta abomination.
Cool
Or you could, ya know, at least watch the show or it's predecassor first
I get why this could come off as colonial in spirit, but I don't think it'll be that way in practice. It's not like he's preying on some poor, defenseless local mother in some far off oriental land - he's going to be learning new cuisines and styles and engaging in what I assume will be good natured competition with local chefs.
I'm sure there's no shortage of people eager to be on TV and show off how good their local dish is, and how they're better than a world renowned chef at making it.
I'm sure there's no shortage of people eager to be on TV and show off how good their local dish is, and how they're better than a world renowned chef at making it.
Isn't including elements of one culture's food into another's the basis of fusion cuisine? That seems to be the premise of the "friendly cooking competition".
You don't need to be part of the culture to make an interpretation of their dish and discuss its cultural roots. It's literally done thousands of times every single day, and rarely by one of the best chefs in the entire world. Best Tex-Mex in my area, made by a Chinese family. The bourbon chicken fucking rocks.
I fail to see what's so wrong with the show's premise. I mean, he can try whenever he wants to do a "better" version of a local food, it doesn't mean he'll succeed everytime or that he doesn't respect the traditional local food. I like Gordon so i'll probably watch, but please don't try to best our feijoada or you'll fail miserably...hehe