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Soony Xbone Uhh

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Oct 27, 2017
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Many here should love this report as it has some nice charts in it
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And much more insight at the actual PDF.
Give it a read...

source:
https://www.jonpeddie.com/images/uploads/The_Balance_of_Power_in_Gaming_2018_-_V4.pdf
 

Lyrick

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Oct 25, 2017
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I miss their older Add in Board reports (although they're much less useful now due to cyptomining)

Combining AMD discrete GPUs w/ random console data is messy.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I am reading this right with the almost 3:1 difference between PS4 and XBO?

The 2018 numbers must be projections. Sony acknowledged over 70 million PS4s sold at the end of 2017 so there's no way they're already at nearly 100 million now, but by the end of 2018, that seems likely or at least possible.

But taking in recent trajectories of both consoles, it seems that a 3:1 ratio of PS4s to X1s could be in play by the end of 2018.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I am reading this right with the almost 3:1 difference between PS4 and XBO?

While the numbers seem reasonable, keep in mind A) it's an estimate for the year, and B) it's an estimate from a market research firm. Console makers aren't giving us real numbers but these could be off. By a lot.

It is funny to see how mobile devices are just another world compared to PC and console, although obviously the more important pie chart is how much each category grosses.
Still not a x86 CPU. That report has essential mistakes in it.

Market research firms not getting things right? Perish the thought!
 

5Twist

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Oct 27, 2017
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That is quite an optimistic projection for the PS4 by the end of 2018 even if they are shipments.
 

Sqrt

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Oct 26, 2017
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So, they added PS4 and XB1 to one up Nvidia for the year, but didnt add Switch because they are focusing on x86?
 
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Dave.

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Oct 27, 2017
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So these are the most accurate Xbox sales figures we have now?

edit: Also the X360 doing 5M units in 2014, was this widely known / how did PS3 do?
 

Talus

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Dec 9, 2017
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So, they added PS4 and XB1 to one up Nvidia for the year, but didnt add Switch because they are focusing on x86?
Yep, pretty much. They also included Mobile figures... for some reason.

The slide looks great though... 53% of gamers are gaming on AMD..

When consumers have the choice, they overwhelmingly choose Nvidia (rightfully pointed out by Sean Pelletier of Nvidia) and the Nintendo Switch is the fastest selling home game console in history. Seems so odd to leave that out.
 

2Blackcats

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yep, pretty much. They also included Mobile figures... for some reason.

The slide looks great though... 53% of gamers are gaming on AMD..

When consumers have the choice, they overwhelmingly choose Nvidia (rightfully pointed out by Sean Pelletier of Nvidia) and the Nintendo Switch is the fastest selling home game console in history. Seems so odd to leave that out.

Yeah. Kinda looks like they started off with the point they wanted to prove and then worked their way back from there.
 

chris 1515

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Oct 27, 2017
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Big error with the xbox 360 xo6 but interesting report and at least they understand the console market...

As of 2018, consoles have been sold for 46 years, and the current products represent eightgeneration
of the popular game machines. Clearly, there is a strong interest and following for the
devices, and as good as the PC is, and as popular as a tablet or smartphone is, they will not replace
the pleasure gamers get from a console.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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How are they separating PCs sold from gaming PCs sold?

I struggle to believe those PC numbers. It just seems they're counting every PC sold with a GPU, integrated or otherwise)—which is nonsense since the tens to 100s of millions of enterprise PCs Dell, Acer, ASUS, Lenovo and HP ship each year clearly aren't being used for gaming.
 

Mameshiba

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Oct 28, 2017
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How are they separating PCs sold from gaming PCs sold?

I struggle to believe those PC numbers. It just seems they're counting every PC sold with a GPU, integrated or otherwise)—which is nonsense since the tens to 100s of millions of enterprise PCs Dell, Acer, ASUS, Lenovo and HP ship each year clearly aren't being used for gaming.

No idea how they are calculating the numbers, but it doesn't include all sold PCs, both the ~440m install base in 2017 and the total revenue are too small for that.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I don't understand what the last chart is supposed to mean. "Relative" to me would.mean percentage of the market share, but the units are in millions, and don't correspond to the annual sales in the chart above at all.
 

TitanicFall

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Nov 12, 2017
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Consoles shouldn't even be in the total numbers. It's not like consumers chose to go with AMD over Nvidia.
 

Muhammad

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Mar 6, 2018
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So they add X360 to AMD numbers, but forget to add PS3 and Switch to NVIDIA numbers? seriously?

And would you look at that table: NVIDIA has like 8 times the GPU numbers of AMD!

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