Gran Turismo SPORT | OT | Putting it all on the line

Fuhgeddit

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Need to get back to playing this. I’ve been playing Grid and other games but I always think of GT Sport
 

eyeball_kid

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I'm pretty sure they want to but it's due to the amount of extra time required to make night races. For the sunny/dawn settings they only have to worry about one light source, which is the sun. For night races they have to set up all of the extra individual light sources in the circuit, which can range from 100s to 1000s.


Another topic of discussion is multiple lighting sources, the light from which overlaps and interacts with itself in many complex ways. The greatest challenge was presented by Northern Isle Speedway’s night course, which has over 208 unique lighting sources.
The Nurburgring has 2,308 light sources. Although they are spread out over a much larger area, the grandstands presented a unique challenge of their own, with a high density of lights in a small area.
That's totally fair, but honestly I'd be happy to pay for them if it's a cost issue. But it does a disservice to the tracks to pretend that they aren't raced at night.
It's also rather arbitrary... Nurburgring has night, Bathurst has night, so why not Le Mans or Spa, the most iconic 24h circuits? Are they just trying to make these updates cost efficient at this point since they're focused on GT7 development now?
 

benzy

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That's totally fair, but honestly I'd be happy to pay for them if it's a cost issue. But it does a disservice to the tracks to pretend that they aren't raced at night.
It's also rather arbitrary... Nurburgring has night, Bathurst has night, so why not Le Mans or Spa, the most iconic 24h circuits? Are they just trying to make these updates cost efficient at this point since they're focused on GT7 development now?
Yeah, I think it's just because of the man power required and them trying to release new tracks almost monthly/bi-monthly, and GT7 should be pretty deep in development by now. Hopefully ray-tracing helps speed things up and we get night racing for all tracks in GT7.

I'm kind of done and getting bored with GTSport and hope GT7 is a launch title though. I need dynamic time change to be back.
 

Rukumouru

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My SO keeps complaining about the gear noise in my Logitech G29, and it just so happens that one of my friends wants to get into simracing and would take the G29 off my hands.

I love the G29 but more and more the noise is a dealbreaker. How's the T300RS GT Edition? My main concerns are noise and especially durability. Haven't heard good things about the latter. I'd have a 2 year warranty, however.

How do the G29 and T300 GT edition compare specifically in Gran Turismo Sport, since it's by far my most played game? And how bad does the rubber grip on the T300 feel VS the G29's leather?

What about the pedals? How do they compare, given their respective, included brake mods?

Oh, and I also play F1 2019 and the G29's FFB is godawful in that. Loud gear rattling noises constantly. How does the T300 fare?
 
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terrible1fi

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My SO keeps complaining about the gear noise in my Logitech G29, and it just so happens that one of my friends wants to get into simracing and would take the G29 off my hands.

I love the G29 but more and more the noise is a dealbreaker. How's the T300RS GT Edition? My main concerns are noise and especially durability. Haven't heard good things about the latter. I'd have a 2 year warranty, however.

How do the G29 and T300 GT edition compare specifically in Gran Turismo Sport, since it's by far my most played game? And how bad does the rubber grip on the T300 feel VS the G29's leather?

What about the pedals? How do they compare, given their respective, included brake mods?

Oh, and I also play F1 2019 and the G29's FFB is godawful in that. Loud gear rattling noises constantly. How does the T300 fare?
t300 is relatively quiet since it’s belt driven
I didn’t have any issues with mine in the 2 years I had it
 

s_hyperion

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Oct 25, 2017
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Anyone trying out those new Hamilton challenges? He really went try-hard, they are no joke, especially on a gamepad. You really have to put in work to get to the 100.000.000 payday. I got diamond at Dragon Trail and Willow Springs, 8 more to go.
 

DrKelpo

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I really got into the game recently and have been doing the Circuit Experience and Mission Challenges before getting into online races.

I have finished almost everything with gold but two things are missing
- Mission 8-8 (Nürburgring)
- One-lap circuit (Nürburgring)

This track is gonna be the end of me... I know it's basically a git gud situation and I'm getting better but it's driving me insane.

I have lost track how often I have re-started both challenges... the length alone is something else.. I drive nicely for 5 minutes just to take a corner at a slightly wrong angle and the whole thing is lost.

Some people probably laugh at me because the mission time is not even particularly hard, but Jesus.. this track requires such a high level of concentration.

Well... I just took a break to write this post.. will try again now.
 

benzy

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I really got into the game recently and have been doing the Circuit Experience and Mission Challenges before getting into online races.

I have finished almost everything with gold but two things are missing
- Mission 8-8 (Nürburgring)
- One-lap circuit (Nürburgring)

This track is gonna be the end of me... I know it's basically a git gud situation and I'm getting better but it's driving me insane.

I have lost track how often I have re-started both challenges... the length alone is something else.. I drive nicely for 5 minutes just to take a corner at a slightly wrong angle and the whole thing is lost.

Some people probably laugh at me because the mission time is not even particularly hard, but Jesus.. this track requires such a high level of concentration.

Well... I just took a break to write this post.. will try again now.
Yeah, just gotta keep at it. I have the whole circuit memorized from just replaying it over and over in GT5/6 and it can still be difficult. Once you learn the high speed sections though it's amazing.

 

Sandcrawler

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really got into the game recently and have been doing the Circuit Experience and Mission Challenges before getting into online races.

I have finished almost everything with gold but two things are missing
- Mission 8-8 (Nürburgring)
- One-lap circuit (Nürburgring)

This track is gonna be the end of me... I know it's basically a git gud situation and I'm getting better but it's driving me insane.

I have lost track how often I have re-started both challenges... the length alone is something else.. I drive nicely for 5 minutes just to take a corner at a slightly wrong angle and the whole thing is lost.

Some people probably laugh at me because the mission time is not even particularly hard, but Jesus.. this track requires such a high level of concentration.

Well... I just took a break to write this post.. will try again now.
If it makes you feel any better, it's taken me years of driving the Nürburgring to consistently not drive off the track in the latter half while maintaining an OK pace. I first drove it in GT5 online a ton since people always voted for it in lobbies and it's taken me until Sport to get a real handle on it. Looking back, I probably should've used the Nürburgring learning course in GT5 to get better. My style of learning tracks is to overdrive the car to get a feel for where the limits are which works really well for me on most tracks. That method kind of falls apart on big tracks with tricky sections like the Nürburgring and Spa so they took a long time to get down. Now I haven't done it myself, but adopting a more conservative style and gradually pushing harder each lap until you find the limit is probably more effective here.

Are you using any of the driving line assists? They can be really useful for learning the 'Ring specifically since it has some pretty severe crests and consecutive corners in the latter half that can catch you off guard if you don't fully know the track yet.

I haven't done 8-8 since around launch, but I recall being able to use RH tires and setting the fuel map to the minimum consumption so you don't have to pit which should help especially since clean on-track passing can be hard in many places on the Nürburgring. Looking at it in game right now, you can tune the car for max power and minimum weight (there's no BoP enforced) so that can make it easier as well, if you're just looking for a way through.

Edit: I ran 8-8 just for the hell of it and finished with 1% fuel running fully lean using the GR Supra Racing Concept while short shifting 3 out of the 4 laps to save fuel, I can't say I recommend the no pit stop strategy.
 
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deprecated

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I really got into the game recently and have been doing the Circuit Experience and Mission Challenges before getting into online races.

I have finished almost everything with gold but two things are missing
- Mission 8-8 (Nürburgring)
- One-lap circuit (Nürburgring)

This track is gonna be the end of me... I know it's basically a git gud situation and I'm getting better but it's driving me insane.

I have lost track how often I have re-started both challenges... the length alone is something else.. I drive nicely for 5 minutes just to take a corner at a slightly wrong angle and the whole thing is lost.

Some people probably laugh at me because the mission time is not even particularly hard, but Jesus.. this track requires such a high level of concentration.

Well... I just took a break to write this post.. will try again now.
Honestly I think you're fine for online races at this point. I've seen the ring come up before, but there are so many tracks with one off / Gr4 / Gr3 / Gr2 customizations it rarely comes up.

I also don't like the ring a whole lot...
 
Oct 30, 2017
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The ring is great for learning a car and car control in general, but it's awful for races. Passing isn't feasible on so much of the track that it's just not fun for racing; passing only really happens when someone messes up.
 
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it's taken me years of driving the Nürburgring to consistently not drive off the track in the latter half while maintaining an OK pace
This, the second half of the lap still kicks my ass after years of driving it... Most of the time im winging it.
But as said, once you get it right... its so satisfying.

 

DrKelpo

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Update for you guys... I have now completed everything (gold) :)

This track really is something... I managed to semi-consistently drive it on an okay pace but it took some angry cursing to get there.

In the end it was just a matter of practicing... and experimenting with cars (in the case of 8-8)

Thanks for your replies!
 
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When I got the game, I saved all the driving school missions for my nephew and did all track experience golds myself up until the full lap Nordschleife one because I thought it would be incredible hard without a PS compatible wheel accessory since you have so little feedback on a controller for when you're gonna lose the rear from too much throttle, even with some good amount of traction control... the throw on those DS4 triggers and that it only registers any press after already 20% travel is just terrible for this.
Anyway, one evening I tried the nordschleife full lap gold with the controller and failed 6 or 7 times early on in the lap from too much throttle and spinning out off track, then said to myself "whatever... let's try it with stability control on, maybe I can make up the time the engine power gets cut". 3rd try and my first finished lap was a 6:48. This GTS tire model is just unrealistic crap... maybe it got better by now, heard that aspect was improved multiple times as polyphony kept patching and supporting the game. Edit: Throttle Mapping setup changes would be great so you can make throttle application non-linear like in real race cars.

The actual hardest gold was the Interlagos endurance mission in the audi for me. I failed that twice right at the end by being overtaken... both with pretty decent driving and no mistakes. Then I realized that you can cut the entire Senna S chicane without penalty, that's how I got that gold. I still don't know how I could have won gold in that mission without cheating.

Oh and congrats DrKelpo!
 

wowbaggerBR

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Got back to play it this weekend - the platinum hunt really saturated me a bit, but now I'm feeling that drive to play some dailies again. Man, this game is pretty and I can't open the livery editor without spending hours and hours on it. Touched some older designs here and there, but didn't have any great ideas - for now, at least.

Did some tweaks on this and I'm quite pleased with the results:



Here's the link to the older version (just lacks some minor adjustments and resizes)
 
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Nice.

Been meaning to post my liveries here at some point. Also, yes, livery editor is a massive time sink.
 

nano

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Can you build your designs on the PC for the cars?
You can upload decals from PC, but I don't think entire liveries.


I recently got back into racing after moving apartments and having my wheel stowed away. I got a new (larger, 32" => 48") TV and a GT Omega Apex stand, and holy hell do a larger screen and a stable wheel stand make a difference. I won my second race after not playing for over two month . I had a makeshift wheel stand "table" built out of an old chair and a wood board before and while it was serviceable, a fully stable stand and a better seating position make a lot of difference both for immersion and consistency.
 

wowbaggerBR

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Can you build your designs on the PC for the cars?
You can desing decals as svg files and upload them through the website. You can use this to make patterns and wraps for your designs.

My helmet is pretty much pattern mirrored for instance:



But the game itself has a lot of shapes, decals and whatnot (plus there are tons of stuff people already uploaded, you just search for whatever you want through the game or website and add to your collection). I've made these without uploading anything:





 
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Stoffinator

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Oct 27, 2017
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I wonder if they have much more content planned for GT Sport? I'm surprised it's all been free for so long, with option to pay some real money to get the cars.