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Ifrit

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Oct 27, 2017
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I hope they don't make people who already got it buy it again, still need to finish BOGT
 

Linus815

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Oct 29, 2017
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Obviously because rockstar is about to remove GFWL, improve compatibility with modern hw and add a few QoL features.

Obviously.......
 

TSM

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Oct 27, 2017
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You probably should download and set it to never update.

They could release a patch removing tracks later, like how they did with San Andreas

They already did this a couple years ago for GTA IV, but yeah these may be more cuts and substitutions in the future.
 

honorless

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could never get the game to play. well i could get it loaded up but it would bug out in the settings. never seen any gameplay.

maybe they could actually fix it.
 

vestan

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Dec 28, 2017
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Lol, Rockstar did fuck all for the 10th anniversary of GTA IV. Not even a Newswire post or tweet while III, SA and VC were ported to mobile. Wishful thinking to expect a remaster on the horizon.
 

YuSuzzune

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Nov 21, 2018
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They removed the game from sales another time too, I guess they simply run out of GFWL keys.
 

Lkr

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Oct 28, 2017
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Is there a way to even get this game to run well?
It's a stuttering mess on ryzen 2600 with rx5700. I wanted to replay it but just went back to 5 since it actually is playable
 

TSM

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is there a way to even get this game to run well?
It's a stuttering mess on ryzen 2600 with rx5700. I wanted to replay it but just went back to 5 since it actually is playable

Launching the game through Steam has been bugged for years. You have to launch the game from it's folder or there are severe performance issues.
 

Lkr

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Oct 28, 2017
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Launching the game through Steam has been bugged for years. You have to launch the game from it's folder or there are severe performance issues.
Interesting...I installed the latest patch from the rockstar support site but still launched from steam. I'll give this a try
 

BasilZero

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Oct 25, 2017
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I meant not being able to play it because of the GFWL DRM.

If they're going to re-release it with steamworks, maybe those who had it with GFWL get a free updated version, like Bioshock and the Batman Arkham games

You should still be able to play it though, I believe there is a work around for it - not just for GTAIV but for other GFWL games.
 

LewieP

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Oct 26, 2017
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Maybe they are working on a mobile version, and want to replace the steam version with a port of the inferior mobile version.
 

Linus815

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"Grand Theft Auto IV was originally created for the Games For Windows Live platform," a spokesperson from Rockstar told The Verge. "With Microsoft no longer supporting Games For Windows Live, it is no longer possible to generate the additional keys needed to continue selling the current version of the game. We are looking at other options for distributing GTAIV for PC and will share more information as soon as we can."
 

Lukar

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
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Oct 27, 2017
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Glad that they're looking into removing GfWL, finally. Just sucks that they waited until the last minute to do this. Should have happened years ago.
 

The Albatross

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is there any reason why game companies can't develop contracts that allow them to keep music in a game forever?

Money, the terms would be really hard. But, also, licenses shift as companies or people who own the licenses are bought and sold, or... as is the case with so many music artists, die. No other medium other than videogames has something like ambient music "in the background" that the player can control... Like, while there's licensed music in movies, it's pretty rare for a character in a movie to "flip through the radio" and have 50 different songs play, but this is just something you come to expect in a videogame.

After GTA:SA music publishers and artists woke up to the fact that these games sell tens or hundreds of millions of copies and are billion-dollar properties long term. THis shifted Rockstar to have to go for much more niche music for GTAIV and GTAV. THey have a few hits on there of course, but most of the songs on Throwback FM or the 80s/90s rock station in GTAIV or V aren't the hits from those generations... it's like the B-sides from those generations. Even Non-Stop Pop from GTAV, I think that's an amazing playlist, but for something that is supposed to be a pop station, it's mostly like hipster Bsides of pop, Pet Shop Boys, GImme More by Britney, maybe one or two actual mega hits (Rhiana Only girl in the world), etc.

Where as ... GTA:VC and San Andreas had legit bangers. The 90s rap station in GTA:SA was literally a best of from 91-93, and then they so cleverly had the "Master Sounds" station which was tons of the original funk songs that the 90s hip hop songs used as samples. I knew about sampling from the 1990s music licensing/sampling "wars," but didjn't know any of those original songs... and I feel like playing the casino tables in Las Venturas is what introduced me to all of those, like "WTF... this is Express Yourself... isn't it........" Now, sadly, "Master Sounds" radio station in GTA:SA has lost a ton of iconic songs.

I'm sure Rockstar tried to get long licensing terms for GTAV, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of those songs start dropping off, especially the classic rock ones like Seger. Seger was notoriously anti-digital licensing for ages anyway. It was really surprising he had tracks in GTAV to begin with.

You're also seeing license disputes in TV with streaming.
 
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The Albatross

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Oct 25, 2017
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Reality shows are known for using a ton (Jersey Shore) and some had ended up being sold without the music intact (The Hills). Both MTV shows.

Yeah... the 90210 one is interesting too. 90210, when it launched was one of the first popular shows that had contemporary popular music in it... Season 1 had a famous scene with Losing My Religion when Brenda and Dylan broke up. It was so unique at the time to have a contemporary song that was topping the charts used in a TV show, and made that song even more popular. When the VHS/DVDs were released, it had the music in it. BUt, when 90210 went to streaming, it was replaced with this SUPER CHEESY muzak which ruins the whole thing. I wish you could get a comparison scene online of the original broadcast airing and the streaming version.