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Grandia HD Collection coming soon UPDATE: RPGSite Hands on impressions and interview with GungHo, $39.99
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Why bother doing ugly upscaled portraits and UI elements when they could have simply bought this this guy's mod? It looks so much better.. and I doubt it would cost them a lot to use them in the official release.
And let's not even talk about Grandia 1, that filter is the worst.
And let's not even talk about Grandia 1, that filter is the worst.
Language audio issues aside (which it's an WIP build, so I expect this to get resolved), the way the graphics look so damn smeared up bothers me so much.. Like, a lot.
While I know the Saturn version looks a bit different in comparison, I don't even remember the PS1 version looking anywhere near as bad. I took a couple shots from the Saturn version awhile back, via RGB:
Ignore the line on the left, as that was from the capture program I use for my capture device, and despite issues with my own RGB -> HDMI device I have, this looks way better than whatever is being shown off above. Sigh...
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Probably a by product of still implementing all the language specific audio, since battle audio also still uses the English audio, despite being selected to Japanese. Not defending this as a whole, but likely why.
While I know the Saturn version looks a bit different in comparison, I don't even remember the PS1 version looking anywhere near as bad. I took a couple shots from the Saturn version awhile back, via RGB:
Ignore the line on the left, as that was from the capture program I use for my capture device, and despite issues with my own RGB -> HDMI device I have, this looks way better than whatever is being shown off above. Sigh...
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Probably a by product of still implementing all the language specific audio, since battle audio also still uses the English audio, despite being selected to Japanese. Not defending this as a whole, but likely why.
Disappointing that the Saturn version is not being used at all for this, but having the game portable on my Switch still makes getting the games worth it.
Just checked the "Coming Soon" section on the eShop and it isn't listed. If only there was a "Coming Very Soon" option.
Wow. This is.....so sad to see if news is accurate. I have never played either of these and would really like to.
Shit maybe I still will pick it up.....kinda torn. Might wait for one of our HC era fans to give it a go.
Shit maybe I still will pick it up.....kinda torn. Might wait for one of our HC era fans to give it a go.
The Grandia 1 sprites look awful. Honestly, you're probably better off tracking down the game and playing it via emulation on PC or via back-compact on PS3/Vita (where you can get the game digitally for like $10).
This collection is going to be a pass from me. I'll track down the PS1 discs instead.
This collection is going to be a pass from me. I'll track down the PS1 discs instead.
I recently acquired a Saturn actually. I wonder how much the English version of Grandia goes for on resale sites.
If everything fails, the Saturn version has a fan translation of Grandia 1. Seems Disc 1 is completed.
Here you go.
Translating Grandia
So I thought I'd snoop around in Grandia's files and do some comparing and contrasting with the US and JP PS1 releases to see how different they are. The thought process was to see if it would be possible to extract the English script out of the PS1 version, and possibly use that as a base to...
segaxtreme.net
As someone who typically hates bilinear filting in all forms, I actually kinda like it in this case? I think it's because the sprite scaling without a filter makes me feel a bit ill.
Shame it's based on an objectively inferior version, though.
Shame it's based on an objectively inferior version, though.
the lack of Hard mode is a huge turn off, they didn't do a amazing job for Grandia 2, but at least it was way harder then the original (at least the second half of the game). Sound like they butch that HD remake big time..
I suppose they didn't event touch the collosium/museum disk (the small extension that came out in japan )... this is garbage...
What these guys said Oregano
I'm buying it for my Switch for portability, however, people like choices ya know.
I'll still pick it up. OF course, I'd love a complete remake with updated everything, but..
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There is no English version. It's why people (like me) were excited for this version. I beat it entirely in Japanese back in the day and I'd rather not play a worse looking version 20 years later.
So disappointed.
Hi. I wrote this article. I didn't say much about the performance I saw because it was a brief meeting, the producer was upfront to say it's still WIP, and you can .. see it for yourself.
fwiw I also didn't style it as an interview because it was more of a casual conversation as we demoed. I was mostly interested in clarifying some particulars about the release that GungHo hadn't quite stated.
Very disappointed they decided to use a smoothing filter on the sprites and UI elements. I don't expect them to redraw all the assets (though the game deserves that level of treatment), but at least give us some filter options. A lot of time and effort has obviously gone into this, but a few questionable aesthetic choices (in addition to the backpedalling on using the Saturn code) is enough to deflate my excitement.
Was looking for official english saturn version so this seems like an easy skip. Weird filters on top of this and no physical release too.
Original hardware + CRT then.
Original hardware + CRT then.
I understand. Saw the video after that comment btw so my bad. Video speaks for itself. I think the jittery pixel is something unavoidable because of the fact it always was that way but maybe less apparent because of the lower pixels. You got video of Grandia 2 as well?
That's kinda true, but I honestly still really enjoyed Grandia III the whole way through. But I legit teared up at that moment in the game. Fuck the person in the dev team who thought that was a good idea
Looking forward to playing Grandia for the first time and looking forward to playing a non-horrid port of Grandia II. I bought it for the PS2 severely underestimating the botched job of the port. The game literally felt like a slideshow like half the time. It was unbelievably bad. I didn't even make it halfway through before calling it quits.
I still hold that if Miranda and Alonso weren't the only good characters in that game it would have been one of the highlights. The parts where she was struggling to accept that her son needed to be able to go off on his own were legitimately well-done.
I agree. While I think G3 as a whole is like a solid 8/10, the first 7 hours were legit a 10/10 to me. It's a shame that it didn't retain that quality throughout the entire game
If I had a Switch, I'd get it just to support Grandia. If it comes to the PS4, I'll definitely buy it to support the franchise.
But, man, it looks like they butchered the sprites.
But, man, it looks like they butchered the sprites.
This is extremely disappointing. I have both the Saturn and PS versions already and was hoping for a fully translated Saturn version, but it looks like this is just an emulated PS game. So frustrating. The Saturn version is definitely the better version of the two, but they took this long to give us this? They could have said this months ago.
Disappointing they're not using Saturn as a base and the port looks pretty rough/budget. Not super encouraging. :(
Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandia:_Parallel_Trippers
Sales figures. Multiplats (Atelier, Disgaea, Ys, Valkyria, Tales, etc) are generally selling better on Switch than PS4 (or Steam actually) in the major western markets. For a game like this it does make some sense financially to prioritize Switch.
I mostly associate it was Sega platforms. Same for Lunar. That's where both originated and remain best.
Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandia:_Parallel_Trippers
Lol. So they basically applied the smoothing filter you can switch on on emulators. Kinda weak there.
However ... I might still get it if I want to play the game. But the remaster is not looking so hot. Maybe they will add a "remove filter" option because it's kind of, by nature, a cheap-looking effect, in my opinion.
However ... I might still get it if I want to play the game. But the remaster is not looking so hot. Maybe they will add a "remove filter" option because it's kind of, by nature, a cheap-looking effect, in my opinion.
I understand opinions, but how can you associate a series with a platform that doesn't have half the games? G1 wasnt even officially translated on Saturn, and that GBC spinoff wasnt translated either. PS2 can play all 4 mainline games.
Because 3 is garbage and while Xtreme is solid, it's also a dungeon crawling spinoff. Also the PS versions of G1/2 are inferior ports and really G1/2 are all that matter.
I'll take it if it's super cheap. More than 20 bucks and I'm out. I love PS1 era JRPGs so I I won't mind playing in on my Switch for that price or below.