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Grandia HD Collection (Switch/PC) |OT| Taking a grandiose adventure on the go!
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Wish they were released separately but eh.
You're definitely not the target audience.
Have they all been ports of PS1 games? I wonder if they all relied on some built-in feature originally.
I've played about an hour so far and really enjoying it. The filter is livable, but I can see why people have had issues with it.
But what really has been disappointing is the music loop, it is very noticeable. You can hear the (slight) hesitation on when it stops and then starts up again. It's been a long time since I've played Grandia, but I do not remember the music loop in it.
Hopefully this is something they patch, and soon.
But what really has been disappointing is the music loop, it is very noticeable. You can hear the (slight) hesitation on when it stops and then starts up again. It's been a long time since I've played Grandia, but I do not remember the music loop in it.
Hopefully this is something they patch, and soon.
Replaying Grandia 1 for the first time in maybe 14 or 15 years and I forgot how much I hate trying to get around Parm--especially because all the buildings look exactly the same. I had a similar problem during my recent Xenogears replay too. Early 3D JRPG towns did not age well.
"Switch Tax" complaining here is tremendously stupid, as it usually is. Grandia 2 was $20 on PC. Grandia 1 will be $20 on PC. The problem is the forced bundle, not the individual items being jacked up in price. It's the same dumb complaining about the Switch Tax for the Baldur's Gate physical release.. which was the same price as the PS4 and XBox releases.
I always sort of hated towns in the Grandia series, in general, which is why I tend to like Xtreme (the dungeon crawler) the most.
Ha, it's so good to get back in Grandia. It's even better than I remembered.
It really has that style, like the real good adventure anime movies/series, like Nausica, Nadia...
One of the few games with good dialogs with NPC. Real dialogs, not just a random lore monologue.
You didn't miss Sue !?
T_T
Why especially pro controller though ?
It's just a turn based rpg. Joycons actually could be more comfortable.
Subconscious mental mapping being better or something ?
Talking with people also help to remember where you are, they're pretty memorable.
It really has that style, like the real good adventure anime movies/series, like Nausica, Nadia...
One of the few games with good dialogs with NPC. Real dialogs, not just a random lore monologue.
You didn't miss Sue !?
T_T
Awesome doodle.
Handheld.
Why especially pro controller though ?
It's just a turn based rpg. Joycons actually could be more comfortable.
I had this problem when I was really young but not anymore.
Subconscious mental mapping being better or something ?
Talking with people also help to remember where you are, they're pretty memorable.
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The subconscious mental mapping definitely helped this time around! I had that too. I just kept leaving the town by accident when I wasn't even trying to because there were no obvious borders.. and the first major thing you do in the game being a fetch quest didn't help. I think ti's mainly a combination of the way the camera works and lack of any kind of map for the town. I feel like towns in late 90's RPG's with pre-rendered backgrounds worked a lot better for their time.
Has always been a rights issue according to Victor. He always spoke about trying to get re-releases as PS Classics (like Arc the Lad, Alundra and Vanguard Bandits) But he never managed it. I think the fact that Studio Alex has some residual rights (and they got sued into oblivion by Game Arts) made things quite messy. Because afaik Game Arts/Gung-ho had the Working Designs translation rights from Victor for the Lunar Silver Star Story PSP port (Xseed ended up doing their own translation which annoyed a lot of hardcore fans)
How do you feel about the Mana collection that also comes out to $20/game?
I agree.
Technically there's the top down view but since as you say, the camera spins constantly it's not easy on the brain.
In a way I'd say it adds to the "adventure" feel. You really have to make your way in the whole world.
Might seem like a cheap excuse but I really believe it works a bit that way. I'm sure I wouldn't have enjoy the game as much if it wasn't at least a bit true.
In a way, that's how I think pokemon should be. You never feel really lost beside rare caves maze moments which is not the best way to picture it imo.
Then how come there's the iOS port of the PS1 version that uses the Working Designs translation wholesale (aside from the English dub). It's not even one of those ports that were thrown on there and left to rot, it got updates as recently as last year.
I'm surprised by how good it looks on a big current TV !
After all the complains I thought it wouldn't.
Didn't see battles yet but it was already not good looking on original consoles anyway so I don't really care.
I was more interested by the environments.
Edit : battles actually look fine. Cool !
After all the complains I thought it wouldn't.
Didn't see battles yet but it was already not good looking on original consoles anyway so I don't really care.
I was more interested by the environments.
Edit : battles actually look fine. Cool !
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Just started playing Grandia 2. Why do battles just immediately start with a black screen? And why is there a split second stutter at the start of every battle? My only experience with Grandia 2 was the Dreamcast version way back and I don't remember it being like this (wasn't there like a fade transition of sorts?)
Still interested to see how the spell FMVs look like in widescreen
Still interested to see how the spell FMVs look like in widescreen
There was a fancy wipe/fade to black, but there was also a bit of loading time.
Well I'm just parroting what Vireland has said in forum posts over the years. There must have been something that stopped it (unless at the end of the day, Gamearts just didn't want any competition for the iOS game/psp remaster). Wouldn't be surprised if he actually doesn't have any of residual rights anymore and just attempted to prod Gamearts/Gung-ho to do a re-release over the years.
There's still the question of Eternal Blue never getting a re-release of any sort, which has always been a point of speculation re-rights (but we're going off topic here, so I'll try to refrain from further non-grandia talk)
What's the issue with music? The only thing thing I know about music issues and Square Enix remasters is music looping back again to the beginning after battles, but wasn't that how the original games behaved as well (both Grandia 1 and 2)?
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I did notice a strange issue though with Grandia 2, during the first dungeon (Garmia Tower). When going up the stairs, music volume seems to lower for some reason. Then after a battle, volume returns to normal.
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When the music loops there is a slight cut you can hear, it stops for 0,1 second or so.
Like here at 33:35.
Does that black flash really happen at the start of every battle? It's unfortunate because something like that is a personal deal breaker for me. I think Grandia 1 looks fine and $40 is a fair price for 2 meaty JRPGs, but that flash is the kind of thing that would drive me nuts. If they happen to fix it I'm willing to buy it, but until then it's an easy pass. Was looking forward to playing it this weekend too.
I almost never buy games day 1, and frankly stuff like this is the reason why. It's sad that it's standard policy now to ship games broken and (possibly) fix them down the line. /old-man-yelling-at-clouds.gif
I almost never buy games day 1, and frankly stuff like this is the reason why. It's sad that it's standard policy now to ship games broken and (possibly) fix them down the line. /old-man-yelling-at-clouds.gif
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So this might sound a little anecdotal but as someone that played the PS1 version almost a dozen times and never the Saturn version, this particular sound skip in the museum theme was always there.
I haven't booted my copy of the game up so I don't know if any other tracks have a skip like that. Is there another example in that clip?
Now this is a localization gold nugget:
The word "Miss" in the German translation of Grandia II wasn't understood as missing or not hitting something but as a form of addressing a woman as young lady.
So "Miss" got translated as "Fräulein".
Fräulein = young lady, Frau = Woman.
The word "Miss" in the German translation of Grandia II wasn't understood as missing or not hitting something but as a form of addressing a woman as young lady.
So "Miss" got translated as "Fräulein".
Fräulein = young lady, Frau = Woman.
Every track has that.
But I already thought it could have been something from the original, it sounds like something that fits to the technicality of the PS1 version. 😅
Still should have been changed for a remaster.
Ok this is Capcpom RE Mercenaries levels of Google translate bad. That game had enemy waves translated to "Winken" which means "to wave". Imagine my confusion playing through Winken 1 to 10.
I'm looking at the PC anniversary edition version on youtube and that seems to not have the fade in effect too, but at least the battles start instantly. The switch version still has a tiny bit of loading before it shows the battle, then does that weird stutter too at the beginning. Just weird that they kept that in the final game.
Finally, I asked Mr. Minagawa if a Grandia III HD Remaster could be a future possibility. "I cannot say," he replied. "The history with Grandia III is so complicated - who distributed it, who published it, who actually has the rights. If you really want to ask that question, you'd have to go ask Game Arts first." In case you are unaware, Game Arts is the original developer of the Grandia series, as well as Lunar.
Unspoken, but I suspect Grandia 3 not having a particularly passionate fanbase who would be interested hurts too. It's the weakest of the games by far storywise, even if the battle system is great.
I didn't switch to German this time, but in the original ps1 german localization "counter" was translated as "Zähler" which means something that counts time not a counter attack 😂😂😂
I'd like to know about this too — this filter thingummy they're using for Grandia is = 🤢
Whatever it is, it ruins the look of the game. Why do devs think stuff like this looks good?
Fwiw, I think most would agree that 1 and 2 are the real series must-plays.
Not counting the MMORPG, there are 6 games. The other two have never been localised.
Though 1 & 2 are the important ones from a fan point of view. It's probably not worth the money to port the others.
