On yesterday's episode of KindaFunny Games Daily, Greg Miller and Andrea Rene discuss the "Minecraft Drama", which is centered on Microsoft announcing that they were not inviting Notch to the 10 year Minecraft anniversary because of his comments and opinions. They also discussed PewDiePie shutting down his subscription campaign. What proceeded from this conversation is thorough handwaving, downplaying, and giving benefit of the doubt to two of the most well-known racists, transphobes and anti-Semites in the gaming industry:
As a person of color, and a very vulnerable minority (Arab American), I cannot support anyone that stands idly by and downplay the hatred Notch and PewDiePie seed into the gaming media. How do you not come down hard on people that say "it's ok to be white" or make transphobic comments or pay 2 people to hold a sign that says death to all Jews? How? I don't understand the train of thinking. I can no longer support Kindafunny. It's utterly saddening to see Greg Miller not take a stand on this.
- Greg points out that Notch has ostracized himself with his twitter comments that included transphobic statements, heterosexual pride day, and "It's ok to be white".
- Andrea suggests that Notch is willfully choosing not to partake; he doesn't want to be there because he doesn't do public events, not because MS axed him due to his comments. Greg points out that indeed in the press statement, MS announced they cut him and re--reads the statement. Andrea tells Greg that it's not a fair extrapolation to make from that statement. Andrea adds that to her it would be disappointing on MS part if Notch expressed interest in wanting to be involved and MS said no thanks. She adds that MS saying "his comments and opinions do not reflect those of MS" is a disclaimer made for everyone that speaks on behalf of MS, unless they are part of the MS team.
- Andrea refers to the transphobic and racist things notch mentions on twitter as "wacky", and it's really Notch putting a line in the sand saying he doesn't want to be involved in Minecraft, and it's just MS making themselves look good by saying "yeah, we don't want to be involved with him anymore" and that it's all drama.
- Greg said he googled "why do people hate notch" and got the top bullet in this OP, and went "what, I don't understand enough, can you give me more". Andrea said Notch's tweets were taken completely out of context and we don't need to analyze his tweets right now.
- Greg also mentions that some of the things has done like PDP paying 2 men to hold up a sign that said "death to all jews" and using the N word on a stream is beyond his comprehension, but PDP did apologize. This was followed up with "Why does the internet got to be so complicated when people get successful?" Andrea responds "Because everyone wants to be part of the zeitgeist", and added she's glad PDP apologized. She then removes blame from PDP for all the racist, hateful and anti-Semitic antics he encourages and places it on his community of followers and a few degenerates.
- Greg says because he doesn't know notch or PDP personally, he doesn't know what their real motivations are, but says that PDP should have closed the subscribe movement since his name is associated with it. And he's glad he was silent on the shooting so he didn't make the shooting about himself, absolving him of any blame.
- Andrea says PDP gets crucified for his mistakes, his missteps, and an internet lynch mob forgetting we are all humans and make mistakes and that PDP has been a target. She said he does a lot of great work like raising money for charity and a lot of good things.
- Greg said he's leading with these two stories but he doesn't know everything about the stories and histories but not that hes trying to be ignorant but because it doesn't pertain to his normal every day life, but wants to have a convo about wtf is going on, and why this would happen, and he thinks it differences how we were all raised, not in parenting but how they come up in their careers
- Andrea said she wants to support PDP because he's the heart of youtube and where youtube came from. "corporations for the win I guess" (in reference to T-Series getting more subscribers than him)
- KF subscriber describes the N word incident "on stream when someone kills him on stream by accident". Greg wonders if that means PDP does use it. Andrea said some people were adding context on why PDP used it was that because he was Swedish and doesn't understand the connotation of that word; She added she had heard from a lot of Europeans that they use that word - both her and greg shout "that's bad, that's not cool that's not cool, you should stop that!". She said PDP apologized for it, and he's not gonna do it again so its ok now.
As a person of color, and a very vulnerable minority (Arab American), I cannot support anyone that stands idly by and downplay the hatred Notch and PewDiePie seed into the gaming media. How do you not come down hard on people that say "it's ok to be white" or make transphobic comments or pay 2 people to hold a sign that says death to all Jews? How? I don't understand the train of thinking. I can no longer support Kindafunny. It's utterly saddening to see Greg Miller not take a stand on this.
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