Can you come up with examples besides me, a person with no tolerance for fascism and its enablers. Sorry that I didn't take her apology at face value when I've heard it so many times.
yeah it's a bad apology. just compare it to Greg's posts.
Lol, you think Epic Games Launcher is worse than being an incel?
Yeah, but that's basically the same rhetoric you were spewing.
I did though? It was an example of how you can get over being called a fascist if you aren't one. Was a poor example I guess
I mean this was going on more in the thread too. Even resorting to calling them cunts at one point.
That stupid "Being called racist is just as bad as being racist" drive by and "You just dont understand nuance. Someone called her a nazi and thats as bad as saying the N word" Like what? You try to make it seem it's somehow wrong to feel offended/hurt about such accusation or thinking that people are being unfair/unreasonable when they do so. And at no point has she or anyone at here said it would be worse. But you're being an insufferable asshole and should be called out on it. So either self-reflect or go away and come back when you've grown up a bit. Your bullshit has no relevance or importance to this thread, you ain't making a difference or helping anything.
Thank you so much for expanding on my point so much better than I could. Criticism is absolutely warranted, but we can't expect people to really earnestly take these lessons to heart if we're calling them trash and scumbags at the same time.
Yeah, I fucked up bigtime with that post. I'm not going to defend it, because that was a major misunderstanding on my part. I got heated over something that I didn't even read correctly.
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I'm just replying to when you said some of us were full of shit for saying it never happened. So I brought you some examples. I was looking for the particular quotes before you posted that message.
Excuse the late reply, time zones and all. I don't think there's a problem with the message itself, it's about the context. Like you've already said, providing a platform for and boosting minority voices within the gaming industry is a very good way of providing that context. The problem is that context goes away very quickly when you're doing that while on the other hand providing a platform for people like Andrea to minimize the concerns of those same voices. It might seem somewhat disproportionate but a lot of the good-will you build up can go away very quickly on issues like these.
And I've critized her for it in several posts already, but AmbientRuin has done nothing else than posting disingenuos and inflammatory drive-byish BS on the last pages. Why wouldn't I critize them too when they are shitting up an important thread. I want something good to come from this.
I'm speaking more in the general sense. As someone who has been subjected to a fair bit of criticism, I can't easily remember the comments that consist of "This is great, but I have a few suggestions...". The one or two times someone straight-up called me a piece of shit? I still haven't been able to forget those.
This is something that always concerns me in these discussions. The reason I personally bring up Andrea is to illustrate and better explain a broader point but when lots of people do the same thing along with a few people just being straight up aggressive toward the person rather than the things they said it easily comes across as the latter even when it's not. Not quite sure how to handle it because just not even mentioning the person clearly isn't feasible either.
That's real easy for you to say when you don't have a bunch of people talking trash about you.
Something good arguably already came of it if you want to take Greg's comments to heart.
You say this to someone who deals with racism on a probable daily basis.
